we are joined by another, scott schuman on the phone with us now. a witness a moment ago told me she sees nothing buoyant, but has seen the divers going under water. what have you been able to see? >> i've seen the exact same thing right now. we are standing on the water. there's just a lot of helicopters flying around and a lot of different boats in the water, as well. >> in the time that you've been there, by chance have you seen anyone that may have been rescued in the time you've been there? >> i have not seen anything. judging from the impact when the plane and helicopter hit, it would be very unlikely for a positive outcome from my vantage point. >> it sounds to me like you saw the impact? >> yeah. we were walking, heard a loud bang and saw the plane and another object going onto the water. >> then what? >> we saw that the plane was whirling its way down. brown smoke coming out of the back of it. it crashed into the water and a few seconds later the helicopter with debris flying off of it hit, as well. then we saw a number of boats rushing to

joining us is scott schuman who was actually walking in the vicinity there with family members. rd this loud bang and then saw this twist of these two aircrafts descend into the water. scott, give me an idea of what you are seeing now. >> right now i see a bunch of boats in the water. there seems to be less police folks looking around there. i don't see much out of the water right now. >> describe for me again earlier today, i did a thumbnail sketch of what you saw earlier when you were walking out with family. you heard the loud bang and then you actually saw these two aircraft making its way into the water, right? >> yeah. we were just walking along the river. heard the crash, looked straight up and saw -- first thing i saw was a plane with only one wing on it twirly-birding its way down into the river. it had brown smoke coming out of the back of it and made a loud and big splash when it hit. maybe a couple seconds later we saw the helicopter with debris kind of flying off of it. almost fluttering and then that crashed into the water, as well. after we did see debris landing a

. >> that was eyewitness scott schuman. we spoke to him an hour after the midair collision between the helicopter and small plane. we learned a lot since our conversation with scott. especially from the mayor. michael bloomberg who said all nine people on board these two air crafts that collided, still unclear exactly what caused the collision, all nine people have died in this collision. calling it a very tragic event. it is now a recovery effort. two bodies have since been recovered there. from the crash site. and investigators believe they found the wreckage of the helicopter. they are still looking for the wreckage of the airplane. visibility very tough in the water. so the divers and all the emergency response teams that have responded to what was initially a rescue effort are now in recovery mode but not putting their lives in jeopardy because there are indeed currents in the hudson that make it very difficult in such operations. 2 feet visibility depth of the hudson at the point of the impact, 30 feet. so of course, n