scott shafer joins me now. the governor's nomination to the supreme court, it's remarkable for a number of reasons and including the fact that immigration is in the news this week. >> absolutely. it's an appointment full of symbol symbol and substance. he's not only latino but born in mexico. he's an immigrant. he walked across the boarder as a kid. he want to harvard, yale, got his doctorate at stanford where he teaches. with all these issues in the news and in front of the courts, it is full of symbolism and significant. >> he's young and married to another judge. they are legal power couple. >> right, she's on the first district and presided over big cases involving samsung and apple, patent cases and that thing. he is judge as lou appointed by governor brown, the former cal law professor. he'll be around for awhile and certainly is going to add luster, i think, to the court. >> both of them are in their early 40s. neither one had experience on the bench. what's the significant of that? >> governors and pres