republican strategist sean walsh and kqed senior editor of california politics and government, scott shafer. welcome to you both. we will get to you the issue of undocumented immigrants in just a moment. sean, let me first ask you about something that just happened this afternoon. president trump signed an executive order that severely curtails the refugee program to keep out radical islamic terrorists. will that actually do anything to cut down on terrorism, or is it simply feeding into anti-muslim bigotry? >> well, i think, number one, you're sending a message to the pipeline from the origin of where these refugees are coming from, and it's probably going to slow that down to a trickle, number one. number two, with regards to refugees, it gives a chance actually for those that are here now, i think, to get enhanced screening. number three, the issue of refugees is not just simply the ones that we allow in on airplanes and on boats. it's actually the refugees now that are coming across the border in mexico from a lot of these arab and muslim countries. and so the question is that will real