we want to discuss the concerns with scott shane of "the new york times." some of these latest details. thank you so much for joining us. >> glad to be here. >> is "the new york times" leaking dangerous information? >> of course "the new york times" doesn't leak, "the new york times" reports on the actions of government. i think what i wrote about was the president's counterterrorism record. president obama is running for re-election and we took a hard look at his counterterrorism record. the centerpiece of that has been the drone strikes against al qaeda and pakistan and in yemen. i think in some ways the striking thing about the drone program is that it is still considered officially to be classified. the president and other senior officials, leon panetta, secretary of defense, have spoken about it publically. it's reported constantly in the pakistani press, yemeni press and american press. the strange thing about the fact it is still classified, members of congress are the only ones who can't talk about this in public. so to consider it a leak to talk ab

aspects of this story is that it has been a testament some really great investigative journalist scott shane at the new york times even even today david sanger stuff it is all very fascinating and what he sort of dug up but but now we again this sort of investigation if the government wants to resolve it quickly that's probably going to require going after the reporters so you know this could cost. i mean attorney general holder said yesterday that he would not hesitate to start going after reporters so we're going to see possibly new york times reporters newsweek reporters a.p. reporters you know dragged into some investigation to get them to reveal their sources i mean that that's the logical conclusion to any of this and i think that that's also quite troubling and will have a chilling effect not just for journalists but for anyone who wants to do it within the government who sees wrongdoing or wants to speak out it's going to have a chilling effect on that as well yeah very scary and chilling time hopefully won't go down that path but of course we'll keep following this story gentlemen t

i love how the "new york times," the writer scott shane -- >> bob: that was funny, too. >> greg: thank you, bob. you're catching on. they're saying this is not dangerous. it doesn't put anybody in jeopardy having the leaks. by that notion, shouldn't we start tweeting our troop movement? this is completely crazy. it is coming from the white house. because it is making him look good. if it makes you look good, it's comeing from the white house. if it looks bad -- >> bob: that is outrageous allegation. >> dana: i don't think so. david sanger -- >> bob: there are 10,000 people in the security -- >> dana: they have 100 people on the conference call on the kill list to decide who is going to vote. maybe that is a bad idea. 100 people. interestingly, i thought david sanger from the "new york times" has a book out this week and one thing he says is after the bin laden raid, secretary bob gates no longer secretary, at the time he went to the national security advisor who asked for his advice on communications. secretary gates said here is my best p.r. advice. shut the -- hmm -- up. >> greg: wha

the whammy in wisconsin, scott walker surviving his recall election despite fierce democratic opposition. so how quickly can the president get his campaign back on track. shane is editor of campaigns and elections magazine and joins us with more insight. thanks for joining us. one of these issues, beginning with jobs and president obama's comment yesterday that the private sector is doing fine. republicans responded almost immediately, john boehner saying that the president is defining what it means to be detached and out of touch with the american people. how damaging is this? >> i don't think there is any question that this remark is going to play a role in mitt romney campaign ads before the fall. it was not the smartest thing for president to say and he walked it back, but as you go forward real benchmark for president obama and white house, despite recent jobs report it's going to be the next one. as we have seen. economic mood sort of starts to accept the tone or kind of set itself in stone about five months before election day. that makes next month's job report all important. for the white house and president obama i think that is going to be set the