joining us now is delegate scott surovell of the virginia legislature, one of the first members of theto call for the governor to resign. he made that call in july. thank you very much for being with us tonight. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> so you have suggested that if the governor doesn't resign on his own that maybe the legislature should look into trying to force him out using other measures. do you still think that would be appropriate? and would that mean impeachment? >> well, it certainly sounds like there's an indictment that's imminent, and if it turns out the governor does get indicted and his wife gets indicted i think that's something we need to very seriously look at. >> so far, ken cuccinelli, republican candidate for governor, current attorney general of the state who has his own ties to this scandal, himself, having accepted about $18,000 worth of gifts from the same ceo involved in this scandal. he has said there should be broad-scale ethics reform in the state, not that there shouldn't be specific accountability for the governor but that the ethics laws in the