scott walker: i don't try to interpret.re is a situation involving abortion, it is a horrible tragedy. it is a tragedy for the woman, the child, and our hearts should go out to anyone. any of us who are generally pro-life know it is not an looking at assigning blame but just feeling bad about the entire situation and trying to find ways to avoid that in the first place. those are things people have to look at. for a lot of people in this state, who care deeply about that issue, what they will look at is not just with a particular candidate said. they will look at ted cruz and the other candidates for that matter and say, where have their beliefs of been in the past? ted cruz on planned parenthood, you cannot say he has been back and forth, but you can say that of other candidates. this is a guy who, in the state house and state office, member of the united states senate, now presidential candidate, has been consistent. john: we had pro-life leaders on our show today talking about donald trump, he seems cynical, he is not re

momentary lead and tries to turn it into a victory tomorrow, he has been booing by support by scott walker. governor walker who ran his own terrible campaign, governor scott walker was only second to jeb bush this year in the lopsidedness of the ratio between his expectations and his performance. scott walker, a lot of people thought he was going to walk to the nomination. he just completely bombed. remember when people asked him that standard candidate question, are you ready to be commander in chief? whatqualified you to be commander in chief? his go to answer is he was a really, really good boy scout. he didn't just say it once. that was like his prepared stock answer. i would be an excellent commander in chief because, have you seen what i did as a boy scout? i'm sure he was an amazing boy scout. i love boy scouts, but that's a bad answer when running for president. governor scott walker is still governor in wisconsin. he's a home state asset to ted cruz. he seems like he means it as a ted cruz endorser. he one of the few recent endorsers of ted cruz who doesn't talk about him like he'

scott walker: i don't try to interpret.s a situation involving abortion, it is a horrible tragedy. it is a tragedy for the woman, the child, and our hearts should go out to anyone. any of us who are generally pro-life know it is not an looking at assigning blame but just feeling bad about the entire situation and trying to find ways to avoid that in the first place. those are things people have to look at. for a lot of people in this state, who care deeply about that issue, what they will look at is not just with a particular candidate said. they will look at ted cruz and the other candidates for that matter and say, where have their beliefs of been in the past? parenthood,planned you cannot say he has been back and forth, but you can say that of other candidates. this is a guy who, in the state house and state office, member of the united states senate, now presidential candidate, has been consistent. john: we had pro-life leaders on our show today talking about donald trump, he seems cynical, he is not really pro-life. he

i mean, the quote he gave the press as soon as scott walker quit about scott walker and what happened there, that should have made it so he never got another job at this level. >> the day after scott walker quit, rick wiley, his campaign manager told politico.com on the record this about scott walker. quote, we built the machine we needed in order to get a governor in phenomenal state to take a stage in a presidential debate. sometimes it's lost on people the largeness of the job. people look at it like wow, he's a governor and in a recall and he's ready. it's not like that. it's really, really difficult. i'm just saying, you know, it's like an iffing, rhymes with ditch, man, it really is. >>> after your guy quits you don't immediately one to the press and say on the record, my god, it was so hard to make him sound like he knew what he was talking about. do you know how hard it was to make this guy sound like he was ready to be on a national stage? it was the hardest thing in the world? you don't do that while the guy's body is still warm. but that's what rick wiley did when the scott

. >> and tony, what does the governor, scott walker, say about all this that will happen tomorrow? >> reporter: scott walker is responding to the criticism of both the sanders and the clinton campaign. he put out a tweet saying voting should be easy but also secure. and again, the critics say, well, you're going to stop more votes than you're going to secure it with a law like this one. >> tony dokoupil. go inside and get warm, maybe get a beverage. >> we'll try. >>> i'm kate snow. my colleague craig melvin picks up coverage right after the break from wisconsin. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. hey!

they decided they didn't like scott walker. then they decided they like either donald trump or ben carson. they went through a period where the two of them were trading the lead. then they decided they didn't like ben carson and donald trump started trading the lead with ted cruz. they decided they don't like donald trump anymore and they like ted cruz. he's their guy. tomorrow they might be all in for somebody else entirely. as ted cruz tries to that i can this momentary lead and tries to turn it into a victory tomorrow, he has been booing by support by scott walker. governor walker who ran his own terrible campaign, governor scott walker was only second to jeb bush this year in the lopsidedness of the ratio between his expectations and his performance. scott walker, a lot of people thought he was going to walk to the nomination. he just completely bombed. remember when people asked him that standard candidate question, are you ready to be commander in chief? whatqualified you to be commander in chief? his go to answer is he w

not the first time, a guy that takes on fox news, comes in here, bad mouthing scott walker, and as you having the crowd boo along. he turned people who used to be for walker against him. mr. defour: there are probably a lot of illinois people. mark: is it possible it is smart politics for trump to come in here and attack walker? mr. defour: he will be looking for fans -- people that are not huge fans of scott walker, but he knows he is not going to win. he does not want to get blown out by ted cruz. i mean, the momentum is on ted cruz's side. and you know, there is a conservative movement in this state that scott walker is at the top of the pyramid on. so, does his endorsement matter? i mean, i think it is more symbolic of the fact that southeastern wisconsin is dominated by conservative talk radio. they control the legislature. they are working to get a firmer grip on the state supreme court. that is really what is at play. john: you are saying walker is more a lagging indicator than a leading indicator. mr. defour: he gave an indication that he was not going to back ted cruz a week b

he says in wisconsin the surge to ted cruz is so enormous because scott walker is leading it, so if you get to a convention, it could go as one but -- >> to walker or to ryan? >> to either. they're both very interesting -- >> how could scott walker get picked by the convention after he got knocked out so early? >> because rule 26 to 42 are temporary. and rule 12 basically invalidated rule 1 through 11. i read the republican -- we have to know each other's rules. their rules can create the >> i'm talking politics, not rules. >> i see no way that scott walker -- i could see a window again, that's going to cause lots of fractures in the parties between the anti-establishment and establishment. the other thing that's important this talk of donald trump and the contested convention. my view is just as significant or more so than what -- against hillary clinton in the course of this campaign and how he's conducted himself and the fractures he's revealed in the course of -- >> i want to bring that to donna. wisconsin, it does look right now -- you can't know for sure but bernie sanders may win

and chuck noris wears scott , walker pajamas. [applause] sen. uz: you know, it donald questionedtly whether your governor could ride a harley. i would encourage donald, come on down. i think scott would be happy to give donald a ride, maybe give him a little sidecar that he could hold onto. you're right. it would mess up his hair. [laughter] sen. cruz: actually, i don't know that it would. it might be that 100 miles an hour, that might not move. [laughter] sen. cruz: you know, when governor walker stood up to the union bosses when he stood up in an epic battle, and it got nasty, it got ugly. threats,tacks, we saw we saw protests, we saw insults. millions of men and women across the state of wisconsin stood with scott walker. [applause] cruz: and, his courage and your courage inspired millions across this country. it inspired me. that when we stand together as we, the people, that we can beat the special interests that are bankrupting our country. [applause] sen. cruz: the same courage, the same principle that y'all have demonstrated here in wisco

could scott walker have scott walker in mind? >> scott walker always has scott walker in mind.r assessment. but i think there's something that runs a little deeper here. that is, as i have covered this campaign over the last few weeks here in wisconsin, i have been powerfully struck that when you go to events for ted cruz, who is the leader in the polls at this point, you see a lot of this new establishment there, and remember, that's a narrow part of the republican party. it's not the whole of the republican party. i have actually been at cruz events where i didn't think people were all that enthusiastic for cruz. they were enthusiastic about making sure trump doesn't win and the process is opened up. you found some people who say i think it should be paul ryan, others say maybe scott walker. in general, it's a sense that the people backing cruz are, i think, less excited about cruz than they are about stopping trump. the weird thing is, where i see excitement is often, oddly, at a lot of kasich events. a lot of people go to kasich events who seem quite genuine. >> scot ross,

i congratulate scott walker. but it was scott walker, mitt romney and lindsay graham, these are the people behind the ted cruz campaign right now. six years ago ted cruz wasn't a member of the establishment. now he's decided to crawl if bed with these guys and they're using him to get to donald trump. once they get to the electorate, they'll forget him. >> that's a good strategy. is it going to work in future straits? >> there are no more scott walkers. he's the best in the country. he's mott goinot going to have luxury anymore. >> any time donald trump loses an election, it's always somebody else's fault. there's always someone else to blame. the reality is that donald trump did everything that he possibly could to win in the state of wisconsin. he added the number of stops he was there, he dramatically increased his schedule in the state, he was openly predicting that he was going to win the state, and he failed because the people of wisconsin were paying close attention to this, took a look at all the candidat

he gives a hug to scott walker over there right there. bless the great state of wisconsin. what an incredible victory tonight. and thank you to your tremendous governor, governor scott walker, for his principled, passionate leadership. tonight is a turning point. it is a rallying cry. it is a call from the hardworking men and women of wisconsin to the people of america. we have a choice. a real choice. the national political terrain began to change two weeks ago. in the state of utah, we won 69% of the vote, a landslide election. winning every single delegate in the state. then just three days ago in colorado, two congressional districts voted. once again they elected six delegates and of those six delegates we won all six. [ cheers and applause ] and then two days ago in north dakota we had another tremendous win. they elected their delegates. of the delegates who specified their support, 18 are supporting our campaign. one is supporting donald trump. [ cheers and applause ] 18-1, i'll take that ratio any day of the week. and now tonight

scott walker and paul ryan -- >> he's not going after paul ryan but really after scott walker.ate potentiam voters tomorrow because scott walker presumably still has some support among republicans. >> i would assume it's not helpful. >> you haven't endorsed anyone. >> i'm staying out of it. >> why not tell the people of your home state of was wis, i think "x" is better than "y." >> i have to have a real comfort level. i did endorse mitt romney before the last primary. and the reason i did, when i met with mitt prior to the primary he expected to be a one-term president because heect anded to fix these problems. knew it wouldn't be popular or fun. when he picked paul ryan as his running mate. i confirmed my choice. i would never do it just strategically. i'd have to have full confidence i've got no questions about the person. >> you don't have full confidence in any of these guys yet. >> i've got concerns. i don't have that comfort level. >> what are your concerns about trump? >> well, for example, as chairman of the homeland security committee, we've held 14 hearings on border

you would think they'd understand scott walker's popular but scott walker's reforms our love not just by republicans but independents and democrats and to think that donald trump has come to our state when he was up in the polls and attack scott walker makes me question, where's the great campaign team? also build a great campaign team that can give you advice on how to navigate our state. >> didn't scott walker make it clear early on that he wasn't for donald trump? we don't have to guess about that because they were competitors and we have like 17 people in the race he didmake that clear but i think what takers did was voted scott walker so he actually endorsed . >> he tried to put a lot of people including ben carson. >> crews on the endorsement of that but because he didn't get scott walker's endorsement doesn't mean you have to attack his reforms. just let it go. disengagement when you startto attack very successful reforms and you use the point that democrats , progresses they use to attack scott walker that turns off conservative republican voters. and i think that'sbeen the do

he has the support of many in the establishment, including wisconsin, governor scott walker. cruz and sanders are expected to speak at any moment. of course, we'll bring you the dueling rallies as it happens. in >>> meanwhile, we're learning more about the donald trump's vision for the presidency. in a revealing 96-minute interview with "the washington post," trump laid out some bold and also bleak predictions. he said the country is headed for a, quote, very massive recession and the stock market is inflated and he could reduce the $19 trillion deficit within eight years. bob costa and bob woodward met him and said it was an extremely candid. >> i think my headline for me was what he said about the economy in a precarious situation that there is a bubble but then we asked about what would be your advice as a stockbroker or somebody who provides tips on the stock. and i was really surprised. he said, it's terrible now. this is not the time to invest in the stock market. >> economists said it's very odd for a major party nominee to make this kind of bleak statement about the a

this is scott walker's country. as you know, scott walker endorsed him. his team is on the ground.y, they were making lots of phone calls. a good turnout, unlike in another place, would not favor donald trump here. this is definitely cruz country, chris. >> all right. thank you, msnbc's chris jansing in waukesha. let's bring in nbc's vaughn hilliard who is following the cruz campaign. von, they have to feel pretty confident. the poll numbers have them up. they have very, very strong support in this area of southeastern wisconsin in the milwaukee suburbs. has he been getting out across the state to sort of push those margins up elsewhere? >> reporter: exactly, what we're looking at, we've got eight congressional districts in wisconsin and he's looking to pick up at least six of those, but if he can pull out seven that you see in northern wisconsin, which is green bay, sort of your manufacturing sort of hub, these are areas where he spent a lot of time. we've been there three times in the last 12 days. in a month and a half, there were 30 cities who voted, and cruz is spending maybe

[applause] and wisconsin's own governor scott walker.] when you toss in senator mike lee and mark lovin -- [applause] we've got the full spectrum of the republican party coming together and uniting behind of this campaign. [applause] in 1960, accepting the democratic party's nomination, john f. kennedy observed, "i think the american people expect more from us than cries of indignation and attack. the times are too grave, the challenge to urgent, the stakes too high to permit the customary passion of political debates. we are not here to curse the darkness but to light the candle that can guide us to see through that darkness to a safe and sane future. as winston churchill said on taking office, if we open a quarrel, between the presence in the past, we shall be in danger of losing the future. the same is true of today. tonight, wisconsin has lit a candle guiding the way forward. tonight, we once again have hope for the future. [applause] tonight is about unity and tonight is about hope. young people in america once again have hope that

we do not just elect scott walker, we elected scott walker in a not just republican, but conservativecan legislature, to produce these reforms that will be paying dividends after we are dead. aca 10 will pay dividends -- t 10 will pay dividends after we die, our children's children will realize the legacy. and by changing wisconsin, becoming a beacon to the rest of america on how to do government. what we the people really means is this the state. i do not want to hear anybody else tell me what wisconsin is all about. you do not come into my state and tell me that my state is filled with hatred. do not do that. wisconsin republicans came together and they disagreed on a lot of things, but one thing that we never came together on was hate. we were hated for doing it. but sometimes that fight, wrestling those feathers, and pushing back against the single biggest special interest group generateate, might some tweets or some death and thelike i got, governor got, and his wife got my do not tell me that we hate. we did right by republicans in wisconsin. the hate was brought to us from outs

the fact that scott walker had three elections inside a four year period.k wisconsin voters have become a lot more savvy than your typical voter. almost like the early voting states. plus this intense focus of a couple of weeks. all the anti-trump efforts that have come out. this has been the big battle. >> you know, i think there are a lot of sleeper votes out there. i don't know, every place i went they were talking about trump. people whispering to me like i'm voting for trump as though they weren't supposed to publicly say it. i don't know what to expect tonight. i was struck by that how many people who i wouldn't think would be trump votes were telling me they are trump votes. >> i think that's true everywhere. i think that's true. you scratch the surface anywhere and you find trump voters. i have said many times that the noncollege educated people have been hurt by the economy are his core base. but it goes beyond that he has a muchje@2 larger base than that. and he -- and you find his supporters everywhere and they tend to be sheepish in telling you

. >> ladies and gentlemen please welcome the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. ♪ governor scott walkergood evening, wisconsin. what a great crowd. i want to particularly thank our lieutenant governor for being here. and, thank you to all of you for coming out. i want to thank all of you, particularly you at home. for showing what wisconsin nights mean. wisconsin nice means we are nice but not push overs. you see, we understand what common sense conservative reforms mean. we understand what it means to have principled conservative leadership because we have done it here in the great state of wisconsin. we understand that and in contrast we do not need leaders who taught about how things are bad. we need leaders who will inspire our country going forward. that is why we are celebrating h amend his victory for ted cruz, the next president of the united states. ted cruz is someone who has stood up and fought the big government special interest in washington, d.c., and when we elect him as our next president he will do exactly the same thing for the next president of this country. [applause

he's political editor and author of "not scott walker." crosshar, right?ou got it. >> there's been talk from paul ryan saving the day. you write he's an outspoken for the tax hauls that many have rejected, turning to a suspended hill insider like paul ryan will infuriate him. you don't think he'll be tapped? >> trump and cruz have first dibs on winning on the first ballot. it will be difficult for trump if he's short of 1237, and cruz will have a chance to cobble together a majority as well. but if there's a stalemate and neither candidate can get to 1237, republicans are going to look to someone who can get support from both the trump wing of the party, the cruz wing of the party and the establishment wing of the party. there aren't many republicans, really, in the country who fit the bill. scott walker was a former presidential candidate, and he's someone who ran his campaign, the short-lived campaign he did run, that tried to unite the blue car republicans with the white collar republicans. >> you know scott walker, when he endorsed ted cruz recently, h

scott walker i highly liked statewide. that plus the support really from republicans all across the state of that conservative talk radio level and that's what potentially could bring ted cruz across the finish line tonight. a couple things to note in wisconsin. crew is the on one on the ground here tonight. this is a labeled victory elect party tonight. when trump throw a party like this, they are confident of victory. cruz feels like they are doing well and they are trying toed if off of it. there is going to be record turnout across the state. to my west, waukesha county, the suburbs, one of the local officials there i saying that it would not shock her if the turnout was up to 80%. that county has 400,000 people in it. appleton, one of the local news newspapers is reporting 80% turnout. state officials said they believe it will be at a 40% clip. either way they are expecting one of the highest turnouts in decade. from being at the polling site earlier. one of the locations in this suburb of milwaukee, it the turnout wa

here is what he said about scott walker. >> walker has not done a great job.t done a good job. [applause] he, by the way, he has been okay. you're average. i hate to say it. you look around your surrounding states, you know what you are? average. you're not average people, right? martha: hmmm. did that help or hurt him? we don't know yet for sure but what do you think? >> i think it did hurt donald trump. that is a line that probably worked in every other state that donald trump has won in or competed very well in, but not wisconsin. conservatives, republicans like scott walker. they defended scott walker through three elections, not just two, re-election but recall election, against democrats. so to hear donald trump sort of repeating democratic talking points in wisconsin, i think was a big misstep and is what john roberts was talking about with trump shooting himself in the foot. that really hurt trump on top of all the other things i think going against donald trump in wisconsin. martha: well they, the trump people think they will do better than people exp

harder -- that is the harder demo for him to slay. >> i think the biggest thing he's fighting the scott walkerpaigned with scott three times. three times or four times? i can't remember. but i campaigned with walker a lot for his election, for his recall. for his election. that's a tremendous machine that he developed. you run three times in four years -- >> he'd win if he was in the race right now. >> yeah. he couldn't win the presidency, but he'd win wisconsin. plus he has the bodies on the ground already there. >> how do you explain that the emerson poll that just came out that trump is closing. >> and the arg poll is up by ten. >> i think trump is popular in wisconsin. absent the walker machine, trump wins wisconsin. >> wow. >> particularly since it's an open primary. >> so democrats can vote. >> hasn't he won all the open primaries? you have an awful lot of blue collar democrats, reagan democrats who vote republicans a lot. they're not allowed to do that in new york, for example. here they are. so you take the walker factor out who i think is one of the most dominant figures in wisconsin

scott walker suggested as such. state delegates, mitt romney is another one whose strategy appears to have a contested convention. if it comes down there and there's an attempt to leapfrog over the people with more delegates, more votes, won more states and give them the nomination, won't the people that voted and caucused for trump and cruz be angry? >> well, it is more than that. the romney people in their hubris and desire to be all-controlling adopted a set of rules that make it really, really hard for anybody else to get in the game and if you look at the actual rules and anybody who wants to can go to the republican national committee so the whole country can see it. if you go look at it, you find out it says you have to have earned -- not necessarily a win. earned the majority of eight states so florida, for example, theoretically, although they're pledged to trump, could decide they're going to vote to put kasich in nomination. i'll let you decide how likely that is. but if you're not one of the people nomin

scott walker suggested as such. state delegates, mitt romney is another one whose strategy appears to have a contested convention. if it comes down there and there's an attempt to leapfrog over the people with more delegates, more votes, won more states and give them the nomination, won't the people that voted and caucused for trump and cruz be angry? >> well, it is more than that. the romney people in their hubris and desire to be all-controlling adopted a set of rules that make it really, really hard for anybody else to get in the game and if you look at the actual rules and anybody who wants to can go to the republican national committee so the whole country can see it. if you go look at it, you find out it says you have to have earned -- not necessarily a win. earned the majority of eight states so florida, for example, theoretically, although they're pledged to trump, could decide they're going to vote to put kasich in nomination. i'll let you decide how likely that is. but if you're not one of the people nomin

you come out here, this is scott walker's home base. republican governor., about 7% of the population, suburban republicans very big right here. you move to the north here, you have washington county. you move over here, ozaukee county. we've seen in the past primaries when he was hot and winning, trump was succeeding in the suburbs. let's watch tonight to see if ted cru ted cruz if he's going to win in wisconsin he's going to do it in the milwaukee suburbs. another place on the republican side, even though madison one of the most liberal cities in america, this is important in the republican race, dane county because delegates are awarded statewide then by congressional district. so if you're john kasich, you're looking to pick up a congressional district, this is where you're looking to do well down here. we want to watch the rural parts of the state, especially the northern tier of the state. donald trump's trade message sells best up in here. if donald trump, even if he loses statewide tonight, can he pick up delegates in the congressional districts? th

[applause] around of applause for our great governor, scott walker. [applause] thank you so much for coming tonight. we have got to decide 2016, april 5. you decide for wisconsin. vote justice rebecca bradley. one other thing, i have to do the raffle. hold on, we will draw for the raffle. who has the ticket? dan hagedorn, you have the ticket. hang in there. i need the ticket. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> ok, for the raffle. .omebody draw the candy the ticket number is 79 the number is 20431 2043179 do we have a winner? it is a big one, you want to claim it. [applause] >> more now from the republican dinner in milwaukee with presidential candidate john kasich. he was introduced by former wisconsin governor, tommy. thank you, i love you all. thank you, david, for your kind introduction. tonight isgentlemen, a very serious night. , that wes the night republicans have an opportunity like never before to change the direction of this great country. we have to do it. we are going to do it, ladies and gentlemen. thank you. that is why, isn't it great to be a republica

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>> i think -- one, ted cruz got scott walker's endorsement and in wisconsin that's a big deal. more than that has been donald trump's response to it, neil. think back five years ago when scott walker did his public sector reforms and he wad the protests in our state capitol. he had death threats that went to governor walker and his family. governor walk are stood up for the conservative movement, stood up for runs. people love him and love his reforms, and for donald trump to go after him and the reforms using the same attacks that democrats used has not played well at all in the state. but not only that we have a wisconsin nice thing that goes on, and there's a lot of republican and independent and democratic voters who didn't like the visit treeolic nature of the liberal protests at the capital and those people actually voted in the re-call for scott walker. so the fact that donald trump is going after ted cruz's wife, putting thump i pictures of both of them and attacking -- >> i think all -- the first state where the pileup of trump negatives, if that's how you want to port

paul manafort and rick wily who used to run governor scott walker's campaign when he was still in this race. kate? >> and katy, i know you are outside after gala where trump is expected to be later. there may be protests against donald trump. what are you hearing? >> they say they are expecting thousands of people to march on the streets right here in the center of manhattan. we are here on 42nd street. moveon.org organized the chicago protest that turned violent. as you would expect there is a pretty heavy police presence by the nypd here hoping that violence does not break out. this is not a trump rally in the middle of new york city. thiss a republican state party gala. so donald trump will be here. ted cruz will be here. jorge posada kasich will be here. they will be inside with folks in very nice evening wear. not the kind of crowd you would expect to come out and potentially brawl with protesters. put it that way. >> all right, katy tur in

patty ann: governor scott walker who you have written about as endorsed cruz, he's out campaigning for him. he's popular with wisconsin republicans. how important is walkers support? >> it's a key ingredient for cruises message. i think there's a lot of things going on there walker is public popular with republicans so to get that support, have that secure surrogate there is helpful to cruise. patty ann: on the democratic side, sanders is leading. why would you say that is? >> you know, if you look at wisconsin, it's similar to michigan. a lot of voters here among the democratic side, his message has motivated the most liberal members of the party, particularly madison has a high turnout here and it really rallied for bernie sanders. patty ann: what parts of his message in particular are resonating with the electorate there? >> sure, he talks about trade deals, his talk about having free college for everyone, expanding obamacare into more of a universal care system where you have the government pay for the healthcare rather than the private sector. those are all messages that progressi

yyu heard trump bring up scott walker and he got booed. you heard him bring up paul ryan and you heard him get booed. i'm not sure what is going on with the trump campaign. these people are completely different thing than the conservativism that we've seen here in wisconsin. on the other hand, you see a supposed surge from ted cruz. let's not kid ourself, a lot of that surge is in large part because people are really dropping out. a lot of conservatives i've been talking to say they are voting for ted cruz almost as a term of their probation almost. it's not that ted cruz is all that popular. it's he's the one that can stop donald trump. >> michael, christian just mentioned paul ryan of wisconsin. probably one of the most powerful republicans in the country, if not the most powerful republican in the whole country. so much paul ryan speculation floating around. ted cruz sort of taking a vailed threat at that or shot saying no chance for a white night. what do you make of all this in. >> i think ted cruz and donald trump will have a lot to

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and thank you to your tremendous governor, governor scott walker. either before cleveland or inthe convention cleveland, together, we will win a majority of the delegates and together we will beat hillary clinton in november. [applause] tonight was a bad night for hillary clinton. night in the democratic primary, and it was an even worse night for her in the republican primary. [cheers] we are winning because we are uniting the republican party. amy: we are joined now by two guests. ruth conniff is editor in chief of the wisconsin-based magazine the progressive. van jones is the president and founder of the dream corps. he is the co-founder of #cut50, a national bipartisan initiative to reduce the u.s.'s incarcerated population by 50% over the next 10 years. van jones was president barack obama's green jobs adviser in and founded green for all. 2009 he is also a cnn political commentator we welcome you both to democracy now! what happenedut last night. a victory for the underdogs. >> absolutely. it was unprecedented. usually, wisconsin goes with the

and sander's administration is to tell you that it would be pretty much the exact opposite of a scott walker. >> daernds targeted the way walker handled schools colleges and universities and his signature on the law requiring voters to show photo id's at the polls. >> hillary clinton saying she hasn't heard from the fwi as they investigate her use of a private e-mail server. >> has the fbi reached out to you yet for an interview? >> no. they haven't. >> democratic hopeful said she would answer any questions about sending classified e-mails from her server something she admits wasn't the smartest thing to do but she used the same excuse she used in the past calling it a matter of convenience. >> all three candidates will be on prime time. john kay itch is on gret faw followed by an o'reilly factor. he hits down with megyn kelly. the battle for wisconsin is live tomorrow on the channel you trust the most. >>> fox news alert. if you haven't heard about this story you should. it is the biggest financial leak in history. vladmir putin's inner circle dubbed the dirty dozen has been hiding more tha

we will take back the state legislature and in 2018 we will defeat scott walker. [applause] i am the only candidate in this race who was pledged to raise money to help build our party. fornt to be your partner the long haul not just when i'm on the ballot. we will take back the states. the state of feingold and baldwin and love followed. . go to hillary clinton.com. you can.or most importantly, i need your support on tuesday. in the primary. please come out and vote. vote for results that will make a positive difference in people's lives. come out and vote for a commander-in-chief that will keep our country safe. come out and vote for someone who will as she has always done find common ground while standing my ground. let's tear down all the barriers. let's keep being progressive. making progress together. thank you wisconsin. [applause] [applause] swift) it off" by taylor >>thank you for caring. doing?re you >>we love you. >>thank you. >>got it? hillary: i remember that. that would be great. >> you. ♪ hillary.hear it for >> thank you, so much. >> thank you for co

times this weekend when hillary clinton and bernie sanders sounded like they were running against scott walkerto see the damage governor walker and his allies in the legislature have done in just five years. they have cut hundreds of millions of dollars from wisconsin's colleges and universities. they've rolled back financial aid. my opponent is counting on governor walker and the legislature to come up with $300 million in new funding for higher education up front. that's ironic because that's how much governor walker wanted to cut last year. >> if the voter turnout is high, we will win. if the voteser turnout is low, we will likely lose. it's as simple as that. i hope very much that the people of wisconsin come out. i hope that they upset governor walker with a record-breaking turnout. [ cheers and applause ] and i hope very much that this great state which has one of the most progressive traditions in the united states of america comes out and says "yes, we are going forward with a political revolution." thank you all very much. [ cheers and applause ] >> of course, what's interesting is th

when scott walker was asked about the prospect, he called it almost breathtaking. but the one thing he didn't do, david, was rule it out. >> all right, jonathan karl with donald trump today. job, thank you. >>> now, to the dramatic pictures coming in at this hour of a dangerous and powerful storm. parents huddling with their children, as hail exploded through the windows. the ominous clouds rolling in over wiley, texas, unleashing giant hail. coming down with such force, you could see it bouncing off the ground there. blowing out the windows of this house, shattering car windows. and it was terrifying for the families caught in it. abc's phillip mena is north of dallas tonight. >> reporter: terrifying storms blasting baseball-sized hail, families running for cover outside dallas. >> get in there. find the cat. >> reporter: donna ruth cole getting her son to safety as giant hailstones shatter windows. >> i was a little bit worried, but i didn't have any clue it was going to be to that magnitude. >> so scared. >> it's okay, i'm with you. >> reporter: john cavallo cov

they went through three straight elections to protect scott walker. they're conservatives this policy and ideology, not just behavior, and they care about what a candidate thinks and what they say. the key in wisconsin is you can't just offer platitudes. you have to offer specifics. these voters have been through this over the last four, six years, and they expect candidates who say what they mean and mean what they say. these are bad days for donald trump over the last 96 hours because he has seemed to be inconsistent. he's had to walk back several statements. but what is key here and tucker's right is that if either cruz or kasich are seen to disrespect trump voters, they will hurt themselves. the key is to understand and reflect that anger, reflect that sense of betrayal. challenge trump for not coming through on the issues, for not being specific, and for flip-flopping, but do not -- and i emphasize this -- do not criticize the people who have come to him because they went to him for a reason. they wanted to say to washington, i'm fed up. i'm angr