and to the kids even know scott walker nowadays?ker or the big foxconn plan of sports be breaking ground there. he did not break through it, and either to that plant. >> exactly, so i do think it's a long road before the first republican debate. and folks are like will there be debates? i think there will be, in august. so i think to pump the brakes, ron desantis has not even declared his candidacy yet. putting all their eggs and ron desantis is back basket, they'll is reporting there's some big gop donors they're feeling skittish about ron desantis's ability to staff to trump, and they want to find a backup candidate, if not desantis, who would that be? right, who's in the roster? there are some traditional republicans of a different time, who you may know well, who are thinking, what about the mitt romney's of the world? but let's be honest about who the true republican base is today, and who other contenders could be, realistically? >> it gives me a headache, because what you have is you have trump and then you have a florida gov

wisconsin governor, wisconsin governor scott walker, very popular. everybody thought he was going to be a very serious contender. and again having run against donald trump. those attacks daily it just it's like chinese water torture. it just chips away chips away chips away and what ended up happening, whereas scott walker won wisconsin donald trump did enough damage that he really didn't do very well beyond that, and so i do think that part of the strategy that the santa's team has to be thinking about a. he's had some fumbles dealing with national press and the kinds of national questions like the war in ukraine that you're going to have to deal with, but also he's gonna start. he's taken on border. i mean, these attacks they do have an impact. and you have to be very mindful how much you ignore and when you actually respond, so i'm i get the trump campaign emails and a lot of times. it's just nonsense . but sometimes there's actual information and data and one of the emails was just a measure of a bunch of monmouth polls about who republican voter

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folks at home, check out your phones, google sky scott walker.n desantis maybe the scott walker of 2024. >> thanks, symone. >> -- coming up, jinping -- breakthrough on peace in ukraine, not so much. that's when the 11th hour continues. ars. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage- go with the general. >> so, now, if china wants to play a constructive control role in this project conflict -- they ought to oppose russia. -- they should urge president putin to cease bombing cities, hospitals, and schools. to stop the war crimes and the atrocities and end the war today. it could happen right now. >> the united states is keeping a close eye on day two of xi and putin's summit in moscow. -- with us for more our william taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. he's also with the united states institute of peace vice president for russia and europe. mister ambassador, what has your main takeaway bin from the summit thus far? that >> symone, the main takeaway is what didn't happen. and you just referred to it. there was -- about uk

scott walker jumped into the race. and then he was gone. >> exactly. >> i think it is the base that you have to win a primary. if they can cut into that, there is concern among republicans. that they will dilute the field. >> there are a number of republicans who maybe want to run. who say a crowded field is going to hurt us again. we will clear the way for mr. trump to win. that is why larry hogan decided not to run. at this stage when you look at where folks are, there was the never trump wing. now there is the thank you, next wing. is there an organized anti-trump effort of any kind? >> the short answer is no. there are a number of republicans trying to say it is time to move on. that is the whole reason you see ron desantis and nikki haley. when it comes down to their policies and messages, they are nearly identical. there may be a conversation about if they are done with the man himself. potentially. there is no one who is forcefully trying to distance themselves from trump. ron desantis is running on his platform

to see the scott walker? is he the next rick perry? they were all going to be the next president.ed and remains under scrutiny. and scott walker is the guy who can't even remember a trivial pursuit game that is realistically how dangerous this last week was for ron desantis. he might be flipping fast. >> i don't know if you've been work shopping that, david jolly, but i just want you to know it is -- don't change a single thing about that last line here. molly, i only have about 60 seconds left, but i want to come back to this idea of ron desantis having had the hottest hands, right? the hottest political hand in town, and blinking, and still debasing himself by repeating in the republican attack line that all of this is politically motivated. >> look, these republicans are not trump are in a bad situation, right? trumpism doesn't scale, as kari lake, she is knocked up -- despite what she thinks. and you know, these people are in a bad situation. now, they put themselves in the situation, so i have no pity for anyone. but basically, you know, the idea that you could beat trump by

bush and president scott walker. you remember scott walker wasn't even on the ballot by the time we got to the primary in 2016 and jeb bush one spot ahead of me. it's time as for us as a party o choose who we want to lead us, who we think is prepared to lead us, who we think can bring us to win on the issues we care most about not who the media or the pollsters or dependents tell us is most likely to win. nobody likes to vote for someone who loses, right, it's not fun to vote for someone who loses. the victory party isn't a victory party. [laughter] and i for one and i've lost and i can guarantee that winning is much better, much better. but we have to take a risk as a partyy because our country is at stake.pe we watched what happened on january 6th. when you see our democracy, under attack i think it proved how resilient our democracy is and by 4 a.m. those men and women were back on the floor of the house and the senate and certified the winner of that election not in some faraway undisclosed location but right bac

my name is peter scott. walker is the broker. israel's national security minister has reportedly agreed to postpone controversial judicial reforms that follows calls from the countries president that's and yahoo should come to his senses and scraps the fund overall, the spot protest, some of which can see live behind me now across the country. now some protest is breached police barricades, a broken into the kinetic building. will it's forced out by security guards. that been phase crushes between israel, law enforcement and demonstrators, around the parliament building. ortiz roofing off. now as we are near the i said right now, these railey governments in the heart of the city of jerusalem, where many people, as you can see behind me have gathered for an anti government protest. they're calling on the controversial today for a full we have an expecting run and it's there is address a nation in the last couple of hours, but it has been postponed. several times. it is clear. benjamin netanyahu is currently in a ver

you know, it was scott walker was a great governor who was going to be president. and rick perry was a great governor who was going to be president. tim pawlenty. so somebody's gonna shine, and somebody's gonna rise. i can't tell you who it's going to be. >> well, you just cited several governors who were in the lead and then flamed out early. desantis is in the lead, and donald trump has intensified his attacks around governor desantis, particularly this week. is it possible that desantis will face the same fate that many of these republican governors who have peaked early will face? >> well, it certainly is possible. >> do you think it's likely? >> you know, history tends to repeat itself. and i just gave you multiple examples of it. so it's possible. i think -- i just -- you know, desantis may prove himself and may do great, but i just think it's too early to be saying he's the anointed one. and i think he has yet to prove himself on the field. you know what i mean? can he handle himself in a debate? can he answer questions from the media that's not fox? you kno

. >> i mean, tim plenty, jeb bush, chris christie, scott walker, a lot of governors who are seen as greatcrashed and burned when it came to the national spotlight, the national stage. tim, the maga wing of the republican party keeps saying, they've been saying all week, prosecuting trump will be good for trump politically. it's going to guarantee him reelection. so, why are they supporting these potential indictments? why they so bothered by them? >> well, you, know that's a little bit of a brunt, a bit of bravado and an troll. it's, you, know you have to put yourself in this alternate universe. you know, juliÁn's over there saying, oh, the electability argument might work for desantis. well, the problem is these mega voters have convince them selves that donald trump actually won. so, there is no electability, it was stolen from them. the same is true when it comes to these arguments about the indictments. they're trying to create an alternative, alternate universe that's true for them. where this is a good thing if he's indicted. the problem is, this very first indictment, conceivably t

in some way it felt like a jeb bush/scott walker cheap shot. i don't think that's going to work. this is a close rank behind the president and fought for america first and is a selective political persecution from a da funded by sorrels. i like desantis, i like him a lot. we are in a political season and i get it. this is a moment for him to stand behind donald trump. this is political persecution and the irony of it and maybe democrats want trump to be the nominee, i don't know. the irony is they're making it more likely he'll be because of this political persecution. if you are a republican right now, dump trump on this. >> i happen to agree with you on that, pete. the truth is it is almost the rule of the law does not matter that with these sorrels-funded prosecutors, the focus is protecting the criminal and ignoring the victim and unless it is a politician that we can go after, a former president. i mean, think about it. this guy could be the da, the history of the united states to indict a former president. i mean -- how do these people live with themselves? >> right, i thin

he's the leading non trump choice and you look at scott walker or you look at jeb bush and the fact that they were viewed as these favorite heavyweights heading into this race, and then they withered away and the same could potentially happen to the sense . i think the thing is, the census has to run a much tougher race than trump does right. the santas has to not only appeal to the trump base just as much as trump is appealing to his base. but he also then has to make sure that he still maintains some establishments, non trump support and we saw that over these comments with ukraine, for example, where the centers had to walk them back in a way that trump would never have to. it's such a wood, but it's such an important point. he has to be on both sides of this. and one of the interesting things this week is that the trump campaign really worked very hard to draw to santis into the fight and forced to santa's to respond to this issue of the stormy daniels hush money payments. i don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.

leading the state of florida but you and i remember in 2008 ghoul n -- giuliani was nominated and scott walker. >> reporter: he stands apart with florida as his unique calling card. >> our state is where woke goes to die. [ applause ] >> reporter: the florida governor will be taking the stage here on the iowa state fairgrounds, of course, where many presidential candidates have come in years gone by but the former president donald trump coming to the state on monday, wolf. many republicans here describe it as what they see as a collision course coming their way. they certainly hope both candidates keep it positive but there are distinct policy differences. policy was not one thing that was necessarily front and center for the florida governor today. he certainly talked about his florida agenda but national issues like the ukraine war, social security were not front and center but trump advisors tell me they plan to draw a sharp distinction with the florida governor once this campaign becomes fully joined, wolf. >> stay with us and i want to bring in gloria boringer and david axelrod. gloria, a

. >> yeah, i've always seen desantis as a kind of love child of jeb bush and scott walker, but i guess is a good example. i don't know if we lost you there to a technical glitch, but he gave us some wisdom before we lost him. we have him back. juanita, what do you make of ron desantis's chances for president? do you see this man, who is already been dubbed meatball ron, ron sanctimonious, there is no bottom for trump. there is nothing that he will avoid in the scorched earth campaign. what chances have against donald trump? >> look, i still think he has a pretty good chance against trump because of the big possibility of trump still facing multiple indictments from the federal and state levels. when i say, that i'm thinking of the fact that there is still republicans who are primary voters who have long been looking for an all fringe and an alternative to trump. so if desantis can just get himself dressed and show up and not say stupid things every day, . waiting for an ad trump indictment could be a strategic play for his campaign. >> yes indeed. juanita, stuart stevens, thank you bot

they were talking about scott walker was going to be president. all the way back, almost anyone they said he year out has never been the next person. i think we have a whole lot of daylight between now and the first primary a year from now. a year is an eternity in politics. i think the polls now are almost meaningless. amna: since you announced your not running, have you spoken to any other potential candidates? >> i've talked to a number of them and called them ahead of time before the annncement and had some pretty detailed discussions with a few of my friends that may potentially be in the race. amna: did you give them any advice? >> i told them what my thinking was and let several of them know that if i could be of any help in anyway as they are weighing their decisions that i was available. amna: i'm sure we will be following all of their tracks in the weeks and months ahead. governor larry hogan, always good to have you here. >> thank you very much. geoff: this week's fox personality tucker carlsen is releasing security video from the janua

remember president scott walker, president rick perry? there are a lot of great on paper candidates. i have no idea how great desantis might be as a candidate. we cannot evaluate it. i have a whole theory about why he might not run. to get into the ring with donald trump and survive the mud wrestling that is going to happen is going to take a lot of skill. after that if he can be donald trump, donald trump will say you rigged the election, the republican establishment is against me. it will be all out civil war on the republican side. he will say don't vote for this person. whoever the republican nominee is if it is not donald trump will have to be donald trump while beating the democrat. >> you have said what trump has done has changed how states are -- how campaigns are run across the country. >> it is a cult of imitators. it is a media campaign. in some ways, i remember in 2016i was trying to pitch my editor at the new york times a story on why this is not a total disaster. it could be seen if you contort yourself enough as some good t

. >> president john glenn, president scott walker, president pete wilson.e before. >> absolutely. thank you to you both, as always. appreciate it. >>> a classic master piece has gotten a makeover courtesy of modern technology and has sparked debate about artificial intelligence changing the face of art. laila harrak has details. >> reporter: this is the real thing. johannes vermeer's "girl with a pearl earring," drawing admirers at a special exhibition of the artist's work in amsterdam. while the famous painting is on loan until april, the museum in the hague where the work normally hangs decided to fill the empty space by asking people to recreate the masterpiece in their own style. they got close to 3,500 submissions, and maybe more than they bargained for. >> the youngest applicant was 3. and the oldest was 94. and we had enormous variety of materials. it was crayon, paint, textile, flowers, it was an explosion of creativity. >> reporter: one work in particular is getting a lot of buzz, a definitively modern take on the classic featuring glowing earrings

debates, as we get closer to the actual voting, whether or not desantis is going to be a governor scott walker back in 2015, who was -- >> that's a blast from the past. >> got on his feet, and then collapsed. >> that seems like 1 million years ago. >> it's true, it's almost analogous. it kind of is 1 million years ago in politics. but that's the question, whether or not he has somebody like that. >> john, what does the polls -- given that the former president continues to speak with the 2020 election obsessively, what is the polls say about republicans and their view of the legitimacy of the 2020 election? >> anticipate the question, i switch the map. this -- is not like this. matt this is 2020, joe biden, won anyone convincingly. but you raise a key point. this is again an interesting question, as the republican primaries and caucuses play out. and again, it's why some the candidates don't want to talk. some do, mike pence started to talk more about january 6th. most republicans do want to touch the subject. because look at this. 62%, nearly two thirds of possible republican primary voters st

i'm scott walker, live at the new york stock exchange.ks down and fear up, about the fallout from the collapse of silicon valley bank. other bank stocks, especially regional ones plunging again big questions about what this all means for the fed on a day when the jobs report comes in hotter than expected here is the score card with 60 mince to go in regulation. the dow on track for a fourth straight day of losses there is the s&p 500 reaching a key technical level yet again. down 1%. a look at yields very much a part

you have to go all in or you're going to find out just like scott walker, just like ted cruz, just likemarco rubio, just like jeb bush that it don't work. >> that's lil' marco to you. it sounds like he's gearing up some oppo on ron. we'll see what that is. that sounds like a threat. >> up next on "the reidout," just days after becoming the third head of state ever indicted on war crimes charges, vladimir putin visits the destroyed occupied city of mar eopal from which many ukrainian children were taken. more after this. ♪ ♪ we're the ones getting it done. we're managing type 2 diabetes and heart risk. we're on it with jardiance. join the growing number of people who are on it with the once-daily pill, jardiance. jardiance not only lowers a1c, it goes beyond to reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease. and jardiance may help you lose some weight. jardiance may cause serious side effects including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, (that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function), and genital yeast or urinary tract inf

he's not running yet, hasn't announced but -- >> in 2015, jeb bush and scott walker were the front-runnersit much matters. i think what matters is how you perform, and ultimately he had his first moment for performance this week, and in my view, he failed miserably. >> on ukraine? >> on ukraine. look, a territorial dispute, jon, is when you get your property surveyed where your house is, and they say, your neighbor's fence is six inches into your property. that's a territorial dispute. not when you take tanks and artillery into a free country and try to take their land and their people by force. >> there's only two lanes in the republican party right now, the trump lane, and he occupies it 100%, and the anti-trump lane. mr. desantis is trying to get into the trump lane, and he's going to get badly beaten. i don't think he will do very well. you know, why, chris? i've seen you work a room. i don't think he can work a room. he can read a script, but he can't work a room. >> on that note, we are out of time. >>> rachel scott follows the money looking at trevante trillions of dollars of pandem

i'm scott walker, live at the new york stock exchange. the make or break hour begins with stocks down and fear up, about the fallout from the collapse of silicon valley bank. other bank stocks, especially regional ones plunging again big questions about what this all means for the fed on a day when the jobs report comes in hotter than expected here is the score card with 60 mince to go in regulation. the dow on track for a fourth straight day of losses there is the s&p 500 reaching a key technical level yet again. down 1%. a look at yields very much a part of this story today, dropping like a stone on fears the economy is careening towards a recession, and the impact that all of this might have on future rate hikes. that leads us to the talk of the tape as we look at yields there and saw what they are doing, the svb earthquake, what it means to your money, the markets, in the days and weeks ahead let's ask or guest, liz ann saunders, from charles schwab, good to see you on a big couple of days here how you are thinking about all of this?

establishment people are saying, well, we can't have trump, so we're going to get behind jeb bush or scott walker or somebody. and i'm afraid that because there are so many establishment types who are saying that the desantis's are the only hope to save us from trump, the trump is going to be able to use that effectively against desantis and say you are the establishment figure. i'm insurgents again. even though he is president of the united states. he's head of the party, and so on. worrying. >> so how does desantis, timon's point, jackie and position himself to actually avoid that tag, that label, and pull and strengthen that elevation that he's getting from donors and others in his party? >> potential nominee on the republican side who has a poll that beat by. trump doesn't have. that somebody else has that. that's what he has to focus on. that's what he has to find that important. if you want someone who can beat biden, which is important to the republican party, then i can beat biden, i have a poll to show it. you don't have to consistently perform in those polls. but currently he's losing t

former gop wisconsin governo scott walker told politico tha going after trump for januar six might ben on january six in an attemp to actually protect trump. the house gop just launched an investigation into the 1 committee that revealed th extent of trump's plot t overturn the election. that investigation will be led by republican congressman barr loudermilk, who was accused by the january six panel of givin tours of the capital day before the violent insurrection let's bring back our panel cristobal, republicans wer quick to denounce trump afte january six. we all remember the speeches i congress and the denunciatio of trump by gop leaders righ after the events of january six, but now they are refusing to talk about it like it is baltimore or something, so wha changed. >> a couple of things here, on is that we can't forget th seriousness of january six and how our democracy is still o this precipice it's teetering and at risk i thank you for raising this i think it is incredibly important that the media and leaders and the american publi don't let him get away wit both the silence,

debates, as we get closer to the actual voting, whether or not desantis is going to be a governor scott walker2015, who was -- everybody thought was a guy to beat, and then collapsed. >> that seems like a million years ago. >> it's almost analogous. it kind of is a million years ago in politics. but that's the question, is whether or not he is somebody like that. >> john, what -- given the former president continues to speak about the 2020 election obsessively, what does the poll say about republicans and their vuof the legitimacy of the 2020 election. >> i switched the map. donald trump loves that 2016 map. he does not like that map. this is 2020. joe biden won and won con convincingly. this is again an interesting question, as the republican primaries and caucuses play out, and again, it's why some of the candidates don't want to talk. most republicans don't want to touch this subject. 63%, nearly two-thirds of possible republican primary vitors still say joe biden did not win enough votes to be legitimately elected president. joe biden won enough votes. he's the legitimate president of the

vanquish trump, sounds wonderful in the establishment circles, but it's very reminiscent of jeb bush, scott walkerthem, but their personalities went over like a lead balloon until, when don trump came around, he vanquished them with no substantive policy initiatives. now he has some things to point to and he's going to use that against ron desantis. i mean, can you imagine ron desantis in iowa, where the retail politics really matters? and so you've seen some of the reports out of their. you cannot be arrogant and awkward. can you imagine him on the stump at the iowa state fair giving his presentations, talking about his policy won stuff and his little platform heels trying to come across as someone who can relate to the folks in iowa? i'm waiting to see that. because he's not very good at this. and we are starting to see the cracks in that. and donald trump will exploited all day long. >> yeah, i'm curious. i don't feel like i have enough of a sense of his retail political acumen or ability. obviously, he's had success in florida and, maybe you know, better fernando armandi, in terms of how he do

the other thing on the flip side with ron desantis, i personally think he's more scott walker than anythingt been -- he hasn't had to take a trump punch proverbally yet. i think when you get in the ring with donald trump, it is a totally different animal and donald trump is going to prove his prowess again. i think you'll have a rematch of biden/trump because trump only needs a third of the republican primary voters to win. he doesn't need two thirds. >> scott, what do you think here? what does trump and desantis -- >> yeah. i think he'll -- >> go ahead. >> he'll need more than a third of the vote. he got in the mid 40s in the 2016 primary. bakari is right, the rules favor flur alty. but a third won't get it done. i think desantis is far different than anybody who ran in 2016. his favorables are higher and i think his ability to grow is higher. i think trump is sitting at about what he's going to get. he dominates the non-college educated crowd. it's hard to imagine him recovering the college educated voters. desantis dominates the college-educated republicans and i can see he will easily g

but we all saw in 2016 that someone like -- someone like jeb bush had a money juggernaut, scott walkerhe most popular republican governors, and we with both saw the problems when they actually started running. with ron desantis, i think a lot of us are just waiting to see what kind of guy is he going to be when he has to defend these kind of votes, when he has to stand up for his own record, and how he responds to that is really going to determine, i think, his prospects -- howard: yeah, and how he performs on the national stage in terms of his if personal the city and even more media scrutiny. -- personality. ron desantis put out an announcement that he was ebbs posing the diversity, equity and inclusion scam in higher education. axios reporter ben montgomery wrote back to desantis' aides, this is propaganda, not a press release. they made that public, it was embarrassing, and axios ended up firing the reporter. this is just a taste of what you're getting now with the hostile relationship between the two sides. great to see you, kevin corke, ben domenech. >>> up next, why andy mccarth

presidential campaign left operates to wouldn'ter if he is just the second coming of jeb bush or scott walkerh what are you hearing >> those two governors were actually had a personality and did try and work the room. maybe they didn't do successfully at least they tried. seriously, when it comes to desantis, i that i things are going to slowly chip away at him. we'll find out what kind of candidate/governor he is because you -- we talked last time, chris. he doesn't do interviews except with fox. he has not allowed himself to be opened up to the general public at events. he's not going to be able to control things the way he wants to he's not going -- you know in, that article they said well he may have a precedent he may answer questions. that's not going to fly in new hampshire or iowa as you well know >> all right susan, henry, great having the conversation with both of you. thank you. >>> coming up, an eighth state just restricted transgender care for minors y that number of states is only expected to grow. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc people remember ads with a

it was it felt like a jeb bush sort of scott walker cheap shot . >> i don't'two thinkrk. that's g to work. this is a closed ranks behine da a former president who fought for america first. s and as a selective politico persecution from a day funded by soros. so you can acknowledge that, but don't take cheap shots. desantis, and i like ron desantis. i like him a lot.political seasn we're in a political season, ai i get it. but thisget is a moment to stand him t firmly behind donald trump stp.ly behind donald trump nature . e this is political persecution and the irony of i trumpt and mn democrats want trump to be the nominee. i don't know. buakt the ironiny of it is theyo making it more likely he will be because of his noll be because of his political persecution. if you're a republican right now, backed trum dumonp on thist >> yeah, i happen to agree with you on that point. and , you know, tommy,t th the truth is that it's almost as though the rule of law doesn't matter anymore, thate what these soros funded prosecutors focus is on the criminal, protecting the criminal, i

desantis, you know, scott walker. we have seen it before. it haven't seen him as a star yet.eve -- if they have primaries and they're winner take all and could win with 30% like he did and get the nomination. i wouldn't -- do it while indicted. >> hmm. joe? >>. senator, for you, what do u think is at stake in the 2024 election if donald trump is the republican t nominee? >> oh, everything. i was basically saying this to lindsey last night. the guy is a malignant narcissist. he picked a few good people at the beginning of the administration and when they went away it was one worst person after another. it was a cleptocracy. he tried to -- he staged a coup. this is the worst possible person we could have in the whitee house. republicans who care about this country if bernie sanders is running against trump they should go at least we want that believes in the country and the system why it is a frightening prospect. i don't think he wins. >> let's bring into the conversation ranking member of the house intelligence committee jim himes. talked to him about what's going on with the

looking back at 2015 donald trump was at less than 1% and jeb bush was the leader and talking about scott walkerped up. i'm hopeful that some of the folks -- that's why we have the primaries. there's no coronation. everybody has to leave it on the field. there's a whole host of potential people to do a great job representing us. >> governor, put you strategist hat on. the republican party right now, a huge percentage is captivated with religious fervor to one particular candidate and coming to candidates you have probably a majority of mentioned candidates thus far who are captured by the fear of attacking the potential candidate. what do you do about the people who actually vote? >> right. i think there's a cult of personality is not good for the party and been a big part of problem. the positive news is it is changing slowly. trump went from 90% support and then after january 6, 60% and now 30-some percent. i was the only one speaking out for years but now many of the potential candidates and many other people in the party are starting to have the courage to talk about the truth and are willin

remember president scott walker, president rick perry? there are a lot of great on paper candidates. i have no idea how great desantis might be as a candidate. we cannot evaluate it. i have a whole theory about why he might not run. to get into the ring with donald trump and survive the mud wrestling that is going to happen is going to take a lot of skill. after that if he can be donald trump, donald trump will say you rigged the election, the republican establishment is against me. it will be all out civil war on the republican side. he will say don't vote for this person. whoever the republican nominee is if it is not donald trump will have to be donald trump while beating the democrat. >> you have said what trump has done has changed how states are -- how campaigns are run across the country. >> it is a cult of imitators. it is a media campaign. in some ways, i remember in 2016i was trying to pitch my editor at the new york times a story on why this is not a total disaster. it could be seen if you contort yourself enough as some good t

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earlier i discussed the attacker with walker responded, thomas roper, whose i just bought from don yet scott to visiting the region numerous times. now mister roper says that the targeting of civilians is genuinely a common practice of ukrainian forces. when you look at that part of the world and, and, and these villages in the brown screech along the ukrainian border. these are civilian villages. we can say there are no military facilities in this region. why do you think the region was targeted? i am just come back from the net and why do they should see williams there? so this is nothing new, it's tara, it's hatred, i think. and this is nothing you oh i was, i was 8 times in the dumbass now. and i've seen a 1st of all there shooting at schools and hospitals. i was in jefferson a 2 times. i was then summer when the situation was like, you know, many people were just not really pro russian. i was there 3 months later. and after 3 months shooting from ukraine and i, every willis fished at the schools or whatever that was damaged. the people changed their mind just because they saw what was s

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