charles scribner.te difficult in the book to write about these different generations without making them sound like kings. i say that because that last we have a king charles the third. we had a charles the second. not we -- yes, we in america. he was our king too. usually i refer to him as my great-grandfather. it was a little awkward but my son charlie who is an environmentalist conservationist in birmingham, alabama keeping the drinking water for the city of birmingham clean by suing polluters, he as a college student worked summer jobs in the reference division of the company. you could say actually six charles scribners got to know the publishing company and contributed towards the books. the seventh is all of seven years old as we speak. it is too early to rule him in or out. peter: when you look back at your ancestry, who really moved the company forward in your view? charles: i guess the founder has always got to be given first place. of any institution. but i would say largely as a function of

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