ads against marco rubio, only a small fraction against donald trump, some people said you certainly scuffedp rubio but you helped the guy who is now the frontrunner. >> well, over half our spending was on positive jeb ads. we spent more than anybody else taking on trump, just like jeb took him on in every debate while others were in the witness relocation plan seemingly unavailable. look, we fought our corner hard. we have the quality candidate. i'm proud of everything we i make no polingses. >> did you miscalculate and go after the wrong guy? >> no, because we knew early, early, we wanted to consolidate and potentially it could come down to jeb and trump. early, we were competing against scott walker, against marco rubio, competing against over in our category. the problem is this year, the voters at least half of them, unless we consolidate, trump's pleurality will see him to the nomination. >> if you do derail trump, won't cause that huge anger on all the people who are voting for him? >> no, look. i'm not part of anything. there's an anti establishment establishment, i'm just a republic