. >> as governors, chief scuteyoifs, we find very early in our careers that there are an infinite number of good ideas and they all cost a bit of money. and our responsibility is to say no to most of those. most of us have the ability to do a line item veto. some of us have a mandatory vetos. and so at the end of the day, we balance our budgets by saying no to somebody, almost everybody. my concern is that we do have a blue ribbon commission. we have some of the finest minds, including the two of you, in the country that will make recommendations. but we all have commissions and boards and they all make recommendations, and some of us think they're good ideas and some of you don't. but then you have a congress that has to move on it. what is the prosssess? is this a recommendation does it have some teeth? what is he going to do about the house and the senate? >> we have baby teeth, which is better than no teeth at all, i guess. unfortunately, seven of the senators who have been sponsored of what would have been a legislatively mandated commission walked at the very end and it only got 53