the sdf said they might come to the brother rescuer in afrin.hich would take them away from isis where we need them. number two you see russia using this to drive a wedge between turkey and the united states. as you noted two nato allies. i don't think it comes to blows. but it strains the bonds between us a and a key nato ally. >> i have to press you on this because a former american ambassador james jeffrey has said and he was ambassador to turkey and iraq -- look we told the turks the kurds were temporary tactical and transactional to defeat isis. now we need them to contain iran. americans believe you are moving the goal post. >> i think mr. jeffrey as criticism isn't all bad. he made sure when we started arrange the sdf, the kurds we made it clear to turkey this was all -- two things, one aimed at going at isis and only isis not to get involved in the civil war, not to do anything in terms of pressuring the border turkey. number two, that when that fight was over, that support would cease. we did tell them that. he is not wrong. we made it

as we deal with stabilization in the north and northeast with the sdf, part of that stabilization is the emergence of a different kind of local based political structure cwhich cannot be labeled kurdish in an ethno centric mix. we see receptivity in how they transition and move beyond what they have been in the past and the associations many of them have had in the past, which turkey finds so objectionable. now, that participation of the peoples of the north and northeast of syria, there's a big swath of population, of assets, both hydro carbon and agricultural and people. they need to be part of the future of syria. they want to be part of the future of syria. on this point, there is a coincidence between the secretary general's concerns, russian concerns and our own, is that how do you see this political transition in the north and northeast take place in a matter that mitigates the turkish concerns about kurds qua kurds. we are very much focused on this but this is a work in progress. but what's good is that the sdf leadership understands it's an issue and are working on it aggres

trying to draw a line between turkey and some areas in syria and trying to emphasise the existence of sdf the same time. of course the syrian regime. this is a rare occasion where turkey and iran and russia are agreeing on something, so they want to think what donald trump is thinking after a few weeks ofjust announcing by the pentagon that the fund something reviewed, so it‘s confusing for all of them. the americans know full well hen they make these proposals it‘s going to upset president erogan. what‘s so important about these fight sners the importance for united states is emphasising an area that goes to the kurds instead, turkey would prefer them going to al instead of sunnis or sdf and kurdish forces to create a different map for syria and today russia said this is the first step in the verge of criticising what trump is deciding. russia said this is the first step on dividing syria and actually there are so many critics that went against russia saying you were trying to divide syria too but it‘s a different map. everybody wants a different map. everybody wants a different map. eve

>>sdf and ypg arere supported by the u.s. having played a major role in dislodging the islamic state group amid syrian strongholds. they struck -- shelter some 800,000 civilians, some are atta by earlierer fighting in the syrian civil war. france, russia, and the u.s. have called on turkey to act with restraint to avoid civilian casualties. has announced new sanctions on 25 people and companies over their links to syria's chemical weapons program. it comes as 30 international diplomats including the u.s. secretary of state are meeting in paris to push for action against perpetrators of deadly chemical attacks. the french initiative after russia repeated vetoes entered -- ended an international inquiry as to who is to blame for using toxic gas against civilians in syria. fight for their brereath, dozensns of residents treatment after the syrian government forces bombarded a rebel held enclave. >> they used chlorine gas on civilians. >> they suspected chemical weapons attacks sustained less than two weeks after a similar one in