the pop-culture vestige of sealab called sealab 2021 for which that is the very catchy theme song byand calamine. so you see the legacy continues. not just the military, not just in scientific and not just industrial, but pop-culture, too. so, questions? [inaudible] >> okay. >> i understand a challenge in this endeavor, but as i begin reading the book, one of the first thoughts occurred to me, are we late in this science? and given that mankind to explore the oceans -- [inaudible] traveling and so forth, and it seems that if we have just begun to explore, so my question is, my impression mistaken or, that are we truly late in the science? >> late depends on the course of human history. it's never too late to start, but late in the sense, yeah, they had kind of a running start here in the '60s and it did peter out a little bit. used do to have bases like accordance and our people still talk about creating more basis like a quiz because scientists, marine sciences find it incredibly valuable to be around-the-clock on site with their observations and the scientific experiments, much as

they put genesis on sealab one and sealab ii and had a permanent job. like i said, i can't remember volunteering. [laughter] that is the very good question. >> you can hear the come artery and bond is very modest. you were the first person to do some high risk pioneering stuff. tell me about it. you get an answer like this. genesis, the lab, and the guys in the chamber, now you have sealab one and too. [laughter] sweeny to a little extra digging on something that significant and that modest. sears scott carpenter, the astronauts turned aquanaut. she found out about bond through jacques cousteau. carpenter was interested in the underwater experiments, the underwater living that cousteau was doing. you aren't french and i can't pay you, they are doing this so why don't you go talk to him. they did. bond and cardinger hit it off, and bond is quite pleased to have somebody with the stature of an astronaut mike scott carpenter who is probably the second american to orbit the earth in 72. tataris carpenter a few years later just getting in on sealab. but i am