seamus. mr. hughes: my name is seamus , and identity director of the program at george washington university. we focused our recent work on isis in america. we track all cases of individuals charged with activities in the u.s.. folks as of131 yesterday. there is not a typical profile. my current job is looking at that scope, the threat side of it. i got into extremism about a decade ago. 2008 timeframe. i was a congressional staffer, and my boss task need to figure out what is going on in minneapolis with house of bob' al-shabab's recruitment of men. there is no on the ground, it is freezing cold. i knew a lot of different folks there. and the thing that the find what would be my future career was a meeting with five mothers of individuals rules who had joined out survive -- out of bob in the base -- al-shabbab. can you help get them back? grieving mothers. that is how it friends me. at some point in those five families' process, there were individuals who were reachable. got on the they blink of an the

from him we'll be hearing seamus hughes. he regularly provides commentary to media outlets, including the new york times, the washington post, msnbc, fox news, and the bbc. he has testified before the u.s. congress on multiple occasions. he has served on the lead prior to and ctc, he served as the senior -- as an advisor -- please give a round of applause as we initially hear from mohammed. muhammed: i want to thank the heritage foundation, in particular robin and his colleagues. seamus is a good friend and we have worked side-by-side. who are not familiar, this has been an organization that works on counter extremism. we work on the issue locally and my role is the new north america director, looking at these issues with the threat of violent extremism, certainly in the united states but globally as well. individuals.ed of our founder was a former extremist. he has recanted those views and has gone through a process of the reckless asian -- de-radicalization. we deal with radicalism globally and particularly the united stat

. >> cooper: seamus hughes tracks the online activities of isis sympathizers in the u.s. he served at the national counter terrorism center, and is currently deputy director of george washington university's" program on extremism," where he also trains f.b.i. agents on how to identify american jihadis. why is the garland attack so significant? >> hughes: the garland attack is essentially the first opening salvo when it comes to attacks on the homeland. >> cooper: attacks in the united states? >> hughes: attacks in the united states. these low-level attacks by ones and twos of people who are drawn to the ideology and decide to act. you got to make sense of it all. so what you do is, you bring it all together and put it on a board and say who's connected to who. >> cooper: using an old- fashioned law enforcement tool, hughes maps out isis' online tentacles into the united states. >> hughes: so you have the two attackers, soofi and simpson. they're also talking to mohammed miski, who's an isis recruiter in somalia. >> cooper: this is somebody in somalia who they're talking t

we'll hear from seamus hughes om george washington's committee on extremism. at noon, a forum on oil and how to counter corruption in the industry. we'll hear from pulitzer prize winner steve cole, author of "private empire" hosted by the carnegie endowment for international peace. you can also follow our live coverage of of all three events online at c-span.org or with the free c-span radio app. next a debate on the health of the u.s. economy. from this morning's "washington journal." this is just under an hour. host: with me is stephen moore ith the heritage foundation project for economic growth and we are talking about the economy heidi shierholz with the economic policy institute senior economist and policy. of good morning to you. i want to start with a "new york headline that caught your attention over the weekend asically saying as jobs grow and dow climbs trump takes credit. question, should he? what do you this? guest:is