and sean caron is a director at west monroe partners technology infrastructure and operations practiceased in chicago they're here to share some security measures that you must take to keep your business safe. thank you so much for coming on the program. >> thank you. >> scott, let's start with you. i mean i think for a lot of people they think i'm just not getting around to this because i'm overwhelmed by it it's going to cost too much money. it's going to take too much time. what can somebody do? >> yeah good point. a lot of times just best practice is sharing within small businesses what the risks are. where the vulnerabilities are. certainly it's important that more organizations back up their data on a regular basis, if not daily at least weekly in case they're hacked as far as a ransom ware attack where it locks up all your critical information and you're at ransom. so that's critical. but best practice is even to avoid phishing attacks where there's an attachment inside an e-mail. alerting employees not to click on that because that could download malware and cause all kinds of