sean crowley ended her argument this way. the defense wants you to decide that the only way ms. carroll could've avoided the bad things that have happened to her is by staying silent. meanwhile, the man who did these things to hurt, the man who sexually assaulted her, he gets to do whatever he wants. according to the defense, he gets july, he gets to thread, and he gets to ignore a jury verdict. objection, the judge overruled. ms. crowley, he gets to defy the law and the rules of this courtroom. you saw how he has behaved through this trial. you heard him. you saw him stand up and walk out of the courtroom well ms. kaplan was speaking. rules don't apply to donald trump. he gets to do whatever he wants and uses massive powerful platform to keep moving her life. he even believes he gets to testify under oath and live once again. objection, overruled. ladies and gentlemen, this isn't a campaign rally. it's not a pressed event. this is a court of law. and it's ms. carroll's life. donald trump sexually assaulted her. he defamed her. he keeps defaming her. he is not the victim. this i

because roberta kaplan, sean crowley, when you get into reading the transcript of this case, as you know, they're even better than you think. it's like, this is going well, oh no, it's going much, much better, because they're so sharp in every twist and turn in those transcripts all the way through. and it's just an amazing legal team. so i'm glad they're all here as a team, because they are three remarkable people there who made this happen. >> and we can see from the outside, like you said, looking at transcripts, seeing how unflappable and professional and disciplined and prepared they were. but to see e. jean grab both of their hands and call them indestructible, knowing what they've been through together and the prep they went through with her and knowing the threats and all the danger they've been up against for pursuing this so relentlessly, like, the human guts element of this is really, really moving to me. so it's a privilege to be able to talk about it. >> and it's so important what e. jean has done is so important for history and future historians. you've had the experience o

jean carroll's co-counsel sean crowley told judge lewis kaplan, quote, the defendant has been making statements that again we can be here at the council table. some of the jurors are sending closer to him than we are. he said it is a witch hunt, it really is a con job. and when you play the last video, he said, it's true. that was a video of donald trump lying about e. jean carroll. judge caplan said mr. trump has the right to present here. that right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he's disruptive. and the judge, speaking directly to defended trump said, mr. trump, i hope i don't he to consider excluding you from the trial or at least from the esence. i understand you are probably

sean crowley had called the form psident out some jurors couldea him say this really is a con job. mr. trump has the right to be present here and that right can be forfeited and that can be forfeited if he is disrupted and if he disrupts court orders. mr. trump, i hope i don he to consider excluding you from the trial and i understand you would be eager for me to do it. i would love it. i would love it. putting both hands in the air. i know you would because you can't control in the circumstance. you just can't, the judge responded. carroll continued to testify. she told t jury when she won her first trial she thought trump would finally stop his attacks. quote, for a few glorious hours i thought this it, and then as she put it mr. trump went on a

sean crowley joins us live here tonight. >> so great to be here. >> how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling good. >> you came into the studio beaming a smile that was clearly authentic, and coming from the deepest part of you. >> it has been a good day. >> i guess first, did you anticipate this basically after the week that you had? >> it's really hard to predict what juries are going to do. i would certainly anticipate that they would believe e. jean carroll's testimony. did we expect that the punitive damages award be quite so high? i don't really know. the way that donald trump connected himself throughout this case and then throughout this trial, storming in and out of the courtroom. shaking his head, saying things very loudly when he was sitting in the back. leaving the courtroom to repeatedly defame miss carroll light the trail -- the trial was going on. the jury saw and heard all of these things. we expected that there would be some award that would be high enough that they would think maybe we should actually penalize him and get him to stop doing this. >> it was my n

jean carroll was hugging her lead attorney, roberta kaplan and her other top attorney, sean crowley,the room and then there was a group hug among the lawyers hugging the other one. we will see e. jean carroll leave behind me when they do exit the courtroom, and we will also see donald trump's legal team exit as we have been discussing, he wasn't here for the verdict. but we have another colleague inside the room and we will get some more color reaction of what it was like -- it was like inside the courtroom, but the judge when he was excusing the jury, it is an anonymous jury, they are driven to a drop off and pick up point every day and then they go to their homes and the judge set it up pacifically in the case like the last one because of the concern for their safety. the whole case has been about defamation and attacks on i ching carol -- e. jean carroll . they said he could speak publicly about it if they wanted, they can't reveal the identity of any jurors, his advice to them was never discussed that you were on this jury and don't talk about it at all, he is advising them to st

and then tomorrow at nine pm, her and her attorneys robbie kaplan and sean crowley will join my colleague, rachel maddow to discuss the verdict against former president trump. in the meanwhile, stay where you are, there's much more news coming up on msnbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this hour on ayman, breaking news in jordan. three u.s. troops killed and dozens injured in a drone strike. who ordered it? how will america respond? also tonight, 2016 dÉjÀ vu. it is time we all talk about how we will talk about trump and his current primary for the route white house. we couldn't sign out this weekend with her diving into the drama surrounding barbie. the stars, the snubs, and the serious conversations it is all. sparking. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. we begin this hour, though, with that breaking news out of the middle east. specifically the reaction tonight here at home. the u.s. military has confirmed that three american troops have been killed and more than 30 injured in a drone strike at a base in northeast jordan near the syrian border known as tower 22. u.s. officials tell msnbc that the dron

jean carroll, attorney sean crowley told the jury, quote, you'll be asked to decide how much money donalde has done. you also need to decide how much money he should pay to get him to stop doing it again. you'll hear how donald trump's defamatory lies about miss carroll unleashed his followers to go after her online, to attack her character, to threaten her life. you'll see messages where people tell miss carroll that she should go to jail, promising that they would rape her, threatening that she should die, all because she had the courage to speak out about what donald trump had done to her. attorney crowley pointed out that donald trump continues to publicly attack e. jean carroll and without asking the jury for a specific amount of money, she did say, quote, we submit that the number should be significant. very significant. dona trump after all is a self proclaimed billionaire. attorney crowley ended her opening statement with this. members of the jury, it's time to tell donald trump that this is wrong. it's time to hold him accountable. it's time to show him that in our system of just

jean carroll's co-counsel, sean crowley, told judge lewis kaplan, quote, the defendant has been making statements that, again, we can hear at the council table. some of the jurors are sitting closer to him than we are. he said it is a witch hunt. it really is a con job. and when you play the last video, he said, it's true. that was a video of donald trump lying about e. jean carroll. judge kaplan said, mr. trump has the right to present here. that right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive. then the judge, speaking directly to defendant trump said, mr. trump, i hope i do not have to consider excluding new from the trial or, at least, from the presence. i understand, you are probably eager for me to do that. mr. trump, i would love it. the judge, i know you would. you just can't control yourself in the circumstances, apparently. there are some press reports that donald trump muttered, you can't either, but the line does not appear in the official court transcript. donald trump is on trial for being unable to control himself. when he raped e. jean carroll in a de

jean carroll's lawyer, sean crowley said, he's just a guy. he's not this all powerful figure. does take time. it takes time to get him into the courtroom. and that's what we're seeing, is taking time to get these cases well underway. it will be more time before we are at trial, when we are and the truth is paramount and the rules of evidence govern and you have a judge who can control the proceedings, he's just a man facing the law. and it will be different. >> well, to quote notting hill, one day he will be a boy in front of a court asking them not to throw the book at him. jennifer rodgers, leah wright rigueur, like you so much. >>> next, never before seen video made public in the trial of ethan crumbley's mom. it shows that crumbley's parents were seeing their son hours after he carried out that horrific school shooting. we will walk through exactly what happened. >>> all right, there's a flood of legal news today, starting with the judge denying alex murdaugh's requests for a brand-new trial. that denial came after a juror said they were swayed by comments from a courtroom

sean crowley had called the form psident out some jurors couldea him say this really is a con job.mp has the right to be present here and that right can be forfeited and that can be forfeited if he is disrupted and if he disrupts court orders. mr. trump, i hope i don he to consider excluding you from the trial and i understand you would be eager for me to do it. i would love it. i would love it. putting both hands in the air. i know you would because you can't control in the circumstance. you just can't, the judge responded. carroll continued to testify. she told t jury when she won her first trial she thought trump would finally stop his attacks. quote, for a few glorious hours i thought this it, and then as she put it mr. trump went on a cnn town hall and repeated the same lies and that where we start today with former acting u.s. solicitor general neal katyal and new york times editorial board member mara gay and katie fang. let's start with you. difficult to get through the testimony of carroll so emotional and so clear the price she paid for all of this. >> i think people need

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and then sean crowley, one of e.that with what's happened to donald trump. she said donald trump told you he has the hottest brand in the world. what could be more on brand for donald trump than malice? so when andrew was talking earlier about the convergence of this trial with larger, political themes in our culture, it wasn't just about reminding people about the importance of the rules applying equally to everyone and the centrality of the rule of law, it was also reminding people that donald trump as a participant in our political process, as a president, is a person that has constantly used malice and spite as an instrument almost of governance. that he has weaponized government as a way to execute that malice in the public sphere. and we saw the jury essentially agree today with that verdict of $83.3 million. >> i just want to take a big step back here because there is, of course, what this means for e. jean carroll. there is what this means for survivors, and what this means for the larger conversation about a

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different times trump has repeated those defamatory statements since, including as her lawyer sean crowley pointed out today, as many as 22 times just today in a truth storm as he was sitting in court. >> >> this sort of connects to what i was saying. the way he has talked about her on truth social is so despicable, so disgusting, so beyond the pale. >> and so unrepentant. >> yes, right, exactly. >> one of the things sean did effectively today in her opening was ask the jury not to consider a specific monetary number and punitive damages but to think about how to make that award significant, very significant. she said i want you to think about this, how much will it cost to make him stop? and then paused and said, after all, this is a man who is a self professed billionaire. so when we talk about the quantum of damages here, even though e. jean's team is not talking about specific monetary amounts, i think what they are aiming for is something that really feels like a punch in the gut to former president trump and causes him to think twice about continuing to do what he has done as recentl

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jean carroll's attorney, sean crowley, on donald trump's antics during the six-day trial.k. the jury deliberated for just under three hours yesterday, to find trump liable for defamation, and awarded carroll 83 point $3 million in damages. and that's on top of the $5 million carroll won last year, in her first lawsuit against trump. in a statement, carroll called the verdict, quote, a great victory. while trump says the judicial system is, quote, broken and unfair. any plans to appeal. joining me now, former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner, he is an msnbc political -- legal analyst and hosts of the justice matters podcast. glenn, thank you very much as always for coming to the saturday show. so, trump is appealing both of the carroll verdicts, in hopes of overturning everything. is there any chance he succeeds in that effort? >> very little chance. the overwhelming majority of cases that get appealed, the appeal is denied, and the case is affirmed. and i think based on what we saw, particularly the evidence of donald trump's incessant defamation, even during the course

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jean carroll and both of her attorneys, roberta kaplan and sean crowley, will join rachel maddow to discuss be sure to tune in. "the rachel maddow show" 9:00 p.m. eastern today, e. jean carroll and both of her attorneys. russ beutner, ronnell andersen jones, thank you for starting us off this hour. molly, stick around. when we return how democrats are looking to flip the script on republicans who don't want to make a deal on immigration all in serve ilt to donald trump who wants the issue as an election year cudgel. that's next. plus congressman seth moulton former marine, a retired marine on the drone attack that killed u.s. soldiers in jordan and how the biden administration should respond. later in the hour nikki haley reveals new details of a very ugly incident of swatting. but it only raises the question of why republicans can't or won't link the growing threat of political violence to the men who will likely be their presidential nominee. "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. after a quick. don't go anywhere. every day, more dog people, and more vet

attorney sean c is delivering opening statent for carroll. nbc news reports this. "crowley said that in sexually y in an empty department store, proven by a sarate trial 25 years after the incident happened. carroll's attorney recounted that trump said he had no idea who she was, accus her of lying to make money, and threatened her. trump was president at the time, had the world's biggest megaphone to attack carol, he said every statement from trump was an outright lie which has been decided and proven by nine jurors. that's where we start today. former top prosecutor andrew weissman. first amendment scholar and visiting research fellow from columbia university anderson jones. legal analyst katie phang. katie, these are complexities in jury selection that i hadn't really thought of with respect to an unrelated trial. the e. jean carroll trial. why did judge kaplan ask those jurors those questions? what, if anything, does anybody do about the answers? >> jury selection is an art form in and of itself, ali, and it's clearly a way to seat fair and impartial jurors of the defen