mike ditka, tony dorsett, to some extent -- [laughter] ty law, sean gilbert and a slew of division i players and just an incredible -- and athletes in general. so i wrote a story about that and how they were still -- and it was kind of a limited story in the sense that it was about football, and it was about, about football in the face of great difficulty and great pain. and triumph amid that pain. and it was a pretty graphic story. and some people didn't like it because it was, it maybe went into the pain too much. but the people who i wrote about thanked me -- not me, but they wanted their story told. they wanted you to understand what it tooking to make it out and triumph. so i think anybody who comes from there, because you often here, well, it's annal equip pa thing, and you wouldn't understand. what i mean by that is anybody who grew up there and left never really leaves it behind. it's got its hooks in you, and you really can't get away from it. and it had its hooks in me, and i didn't even grow up there. there was something about this place that i thought what -- there's some