wev sean hannity, an outspoken conservative, bill o'reilly, who i don't know where he is.bglenn beck's gone. what gets them tied up in a bundle? >> i think it's because fox has done something different from the media world before it and it's been so successful. it has more viewers than cnn and ms-nbc combined, most of the time. it it's something that the white house can't ignore. remember anita dunn, declared war on fox. there are groups on the left that are pretty well funded whose job is to monitor fox all the time. >> yeah, but i like a good challenge. i mean, the few times i have been interviewed, i would rather be interviewed by someone who's challenging me than someone who i go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. that's right. i mean, that's boring. and if they are so certain, i mean, these people are so certain of their positions, whether it's the bill or helt care, come talk about t. let's have an aggressive, vigorous debate about it. don't jab one of my colleagues. >> apparently, the president was too. tempted not to say something today. it's a real different thing w