joining us now is congressman sean patrick maloney. democrat from new york.e once served in the job rob porter held till yesterday. it's good to have you with us tonight thank you. >> good to be with you. >> am i right thinking being the staff secretary means you routinely handle classified information. >> spot on. there's not a day that goes by that there are not a stack of red folders marked top secret. top secret is where you start. they go up to levels that are themselves classified. there's a burn bag under the deck of the staff secretary because when you discard materials it will be collected by a special team and insin rated that night. i don't think people understand. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, they don't give memos to the president. they give them to the staff secretary and the secretary manages those doubts as they go to the oval office. you see everything. >> in terms of mr. porter, it has emerged as parts of this story about his personal difficulties that that much information was conveyed to the fbi and that information was convey

joining us now is sean patrick maloney. he once served in the clinton administration in the job rob porter held until yesterday. congressman, really good to have you with us tonight. thatening y . >> good to be with you. >> do you routinely handle highly classified information? >> spot on. there isn't a day that goes on that there aren't a stack of red folders on the desk marked top secret. they are often above that level of secrecy. they go all the way up themselves classified and there is a burn bag because when you describe materials, it will be a special team. the staff secretary sees everything. the chairman of the point of the chief of staff to the staff secretary manages those documents as they go to the oval office. you see everything. >> in terms of mr. porter, it has emerged as part of the story about his personal difficulties that that information was conveyed to the fbi and that information was conveyed to the white house. even aside from this story about these domestic violence allegations against him, how unus

we welcome sean patrick maloney, the democratic congressman from new york and a member of the house transportation infrastructure committee. is there an agreement on what is to be done? is there disagreement on how to pay for it, or what needs to be done on infrastructure. the big question is whether the president is going to lead on this. the plan they put forward is not worth the paper it is written on. tois not a serious effort lead on infrastructure. it is opening the conversation, but this comes after the tax bill and spending bill. that makes the job harder. are you going to invest federal dollars, or leverage private capital in smart ways? theyou going to bring parties together to do this, or are we not getting anything done? the president is long on rhetoric and short on substance. david: what keeps this from becoming a serious effort? you read the outline. is it a matter of the amount of federal money put into it as opposed to two trying to level local?rage state and we. maloney: it is not like don't leverage the state and local now. localities are spending everything they can on infrastr

but according to sean patrick maloney who held the same job in the clinton white house, this was anything but. >> on that desk there are a stack of red folders marked top secret. every day our nation's highest secrets are seen by the staff secretary there is a burn bag under the desk because when you're done, you incinerate those materials. the idea that someone without a security clearance was allowed to be there in the first place despite these allegations and was allowed to stay there with no plan for getting him clearance is not the normal process. >> steve schmidt is a republican strategist. jill wine-banks, former watergate prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. and steve, let me start with you. let me just start with the second part of this, which is the lie, the lie that they were telling about what happened. what do you make of the fact that they are attempting essentially to just tell us we didn't see what we saw? >> of course. it's just a continuation of the dishonesty we've seen from day one of this administration, chris. it's extraordinary. but, look, it tells us a couple of

i want to bring in congressman sean patrick maloney, a democrat from new york, and he was also staff secretary to president bill clinton so he certainly knows a lot about the job. physically and emotionally abused both of his ex-wives. both of these women apparently told the fbi about this. and he still got the job. that's what sticks out to me. does it surprise you? >> yes, greatly. there was not a day that went by that i did not have a stack of red folders on my desk marked for the president. for the entire time rob porter's been at the white house, he's been handling the country's greatest secrets with this secret of his own. john kelly clearly had to know about this. there is no way, i'm telling you, that the staff secretary to the president, served for 14 months without a security clearance that the fbi did notify the chief of staff. which means kelly didn't care. and even now is defending this conduct. which is so sickening and so well documented. it's so clearly proven by photographic evidence. by police reports. rob porter has a right to defend himself. john kelly should know

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. >> we are back now with chris christie and democratic congressman sean patrick maloney.gressman, let me begin with you. you held the job that rob porter had. you heard kellyanne conway saying they were following the regular process. >> right. i did that job. you know, when i did that job, the fbi sent agents from the field office to the small village in peru where i worked with the jesuits between college and law school. that process is incredibly exacting. these guys knew about the fact pattern that would have permanently disqualified him from doing the job. that guy never should have been in the chair. there are a stack of red folders marked top secret. every day our highest secrets are seen by the house secretary. there's a burn bag under the desk because you burn the materials when you're done. the idea that someone was allowed to be there in the first place without a security clearance, despite these allegations, and was able to stay there without a plan for getting him clearance is not the normal process. >> when the fbi brings this to don mcgowan what's supposed t

and, you know, sean patrick maloney, actually, a democrat from new york, once served as the staff secretary. so he's served in a similar position for rob porter for then president bill clinton. and he actually wrote a letter to trey gowdy asking for an investigation into this. who knew what when. and if you read that story from "the washington post," don mcgahn says that -- or there's -- there's a -- okay. there's reporting that don mcgahn knew of, you know, discrepancies with the ex-wives between porter, but he didn't know the full extent of that. so it would be interesting to find out how much people did know in the white house and when they found it out. >> and as you mentioned, as is often the case with domestic abusers, there are two personas. there's the person at home and then there's the person and the face that they present to the world. obviously, rob porter was able to present a different face to the world than he had at home. >>> i want to turn to the shutdown now. i'm hearing the house speaker is currently on the floor and we are waiting forrer that vote to come through at any

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