i have one speaker card for public comment, and that's sean pearson. sean pearson? okay. sean left already. is there any additional -- public comment on this item? seeing none, commissioners, commissioner moore. >> i would like to ask, perhaps the architect, i have never seen a staff report where there are two images. one where the architect has his scheme [speaker not understood], and the department having another scheme. so, i'd like to ask the architect to explain to us his thinking behind what the department is objecting to and perhaps also explain how you tried to respond to that challenge. >>> hi, i'm david baker. i just happen to have [speaker not understood]. >> just very quickly. maybe you can use the lower mic that's with the computer. thank you. >>> yeah, let me see, how do i get out of this? okay. so, i want to apologize for this getting this far and it would have been great if we could have resolved this and, you know, with just some chatting. it has, and we worked very closely and got this very nice [speaker not understood] bay and i want to commend the plan