while many are criticizing sean penn for meeting with el chapo, the fact is penn's article helped bring the drug kingpin down, so good for him. (cheers and applause) yeah, kind of a good thing. i don't know how much he's clapping about that right now. and we're living in the era of citizen journalists, so let's just appreciate penn's journalistic skills. here's an excerpt from the article's beginning. "i feel naked without pen and paper. so i only ask questions one couldn't forget the answers to..." (laughter) jesus christ, you went to write an article and you forgot the actual instruments of writing? how can you forget to bring a pen? your last name's penn! (laughter) (applause) how did that happen! ahhh! okay. but surely he brought a computer -- "at 55 years old, i've never learned to use a laptop. do they still make laptops? no (bleep) idea!" "do they still make laptops?" in the time it took for you to type this question, you could have requested, like, anyone nearby and gotten an answer. this is literally the exact opposite of investigative journalism. (applause) suddenly, his perfo

you can look for sean penn, authorities can find sean penn, but does he have to cooperate? he has a right against self-incrimination and all of 0 the constitutional rights certainly that, you know, an american would have. so, in light of that without knowing more, fredricka, i don't see the criminality involved. >> matthew, you've heard on cnn here there are conflicting reports about whether mexican authorities knew about where el chapo was. before this "rolling stone" magazine went to print, so do you see conceivably that authorities would be able to track el chapo and sit on it for months before going in to capture him. to what advantage? >> if there were a tactical advantage that placed people's likes at risks, perhaps. he's known as one of the most violent and dangerous criminals in the worlden being wanted adds to that pie. there's a slew of people by their behavior sort of implicit in some sort of criminality because, let's face it, that plan, as you described, required careful planning, execution, and at the end of the day, there were any number of people from sean p

el chapo and sean penn. their shocking meeting, the world's most wanted drug lord and an oscar winner deep in a secret mountain hideaway? now mexican authorities want to know where it all happened and when and who's the mexican actress who made it all come together? you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm fredricka whitfield. stunning new details in the capture of the world's most wanted man, el chapo guzman, and the secret meeting with a hollywood celebrity that may have led to the drug lord's arrest. after years of planning, after sean penn secured a confidential meeting with the drug kingpin at an undislowe'sed location in mexico to write a feature-length article for roll"rolling stone" magazi magazine. this happened last okt. "rolling stone" also obtained a two-minute video believed to be guzman's first recorded interview in decades. >> penn's meeting was made possible by a mutual connection, mexican actress, kate del castillo. now mexican authorities want to question both actors. it's unclear if there wi

the element where i think sean penn will have trouble the prosecution would have to show sean and kate concealed where "el chapo" was, they concealed this information from authorities and they knew he had committed a crime so -- trish: i want to bring judy into this conversation too. what blurs all of this the fact that sean penn is not a journalist. he is an actor and you know, this sort of extraordinarily skeptical side of me, judy, kind of wonders, might he have been posing as a journalist because he wanted to team up with kate del castillo and her production company and actually maybe get access to "el chapo" to produce this of wonderful movie together? it is pretty bad if you're just the production company and you're going down there to produce a hollywood movie about "el chapo" and you don't report it to authorities. somehow traveling under the guise the journalism makes it somewhat okay? >> you all kinds of protections supposedly against the law, being accused of various crimes you've been discussing here on this show. the fact of the matter this in this internet era, social med

. >> y hoy se sabe que dos grandes actores de hollywood sean penn y kate del castillo se reunieron enestinidad con el prÓfugo mÁs buscado del mundo, joaquÍn el chapo guzmÁn. >> serÁ el chapo guzman extraditado a estados unidos?. >> estamos en mÉxico, nueva york y washington con una ediciÓn especial de "enfoque" con josÉ dÍaz-balart. >> hola, ¿quÉ tal? y gracias por dejarme ser parte de su domingo 10 de enero despuÉs de casi seis meses como fugitivo y despuÉs de una extraordinaria fuga de una de las cÁrceles de maxima seguridad de mÉxico hoy el hombre mÁs buscado del mundo joaquÍn el chapo guzmÁn esta nuevamente tras las rejas. llegÓ a la misma cÁrcel federal del altiplano donde se habÍa escapado el pasado 11 de julio. han pasado solo 48 horas desde su captura. nos vamos directamente a las afueras de esta prisiÓn de mÁxima seguridad con edgardo del villar y raÚl torres caballeros muchas gracias por estar con nosotros este domingo. querÍa comenzar contigo edgardo cÓmo han cambiado las cosas para joaquÍn el chapo guzmÁn en Últimas 48 horas?. >> pues josÉ te saludo con mismo gusto estÁbam

sean penn secretly met with joaquin el chapo guzman. re guzman's friday night arrest. the article written by penn was published on "rolling stone's" website just last night. the druglord in that interview answered questions on video that had been given to him ahead of time. "rolling stone" saying the final story was subject to approval by chapp io who did not ask for an changes. chapo said he went into the drug trade as a teenager because there was no other way to make a living. all of that just in part. gabe gutierrez is outside the mexican prison where guzman is being held and has the complete story on this. gabe, good day to you. >> richard, good afternoon. this is truly a remarkable story as you mentioned. this is believed to be el chapo's first public interview in several decades. mexican authorities are now investigating this trip. and sean penn says that he interviewed joaquin el chapo guzman while on the run a few months ago. the stunning interview with the world's most wanted druglord posted online overnight by rolling stone mag

(informaciÓn en pantalla). >>> tambiÉn le dice que kate quiere ir a verlo con el actor sean penn el capo pantalla): >>> luego el chapo les pide que le compren un telÉfono para comunicarse directamente con ella. (informaciÓn en pantalla): >>> al dÍa siguiente de la conversaciÓn continua, el capo pide que compra uno que sea de color de mujer. (informaciÓn en pantalla). >>> ul universal pÚblica esta fotografÍa que telemundo aÚn no ma podido verificar, la comunicaciÓn escribe al pie de pÁgina, y le entregan un telÉfono para que se comunique con guzmÁn, finalmente kate y el chapo comienzan hablar directamente. (informaciÓn en pantalla): >>> luego le dice (informaciÓn en pantalla): >>> sÓlo dos dÍas el 2 de octubre se darÍa el encuentro entre la actriactriz, sean penn capo de capo >>> la prÓxima conversacion es cuanto kate regresa a estados unidos una semana despuÉs de ver al chapo. (informaciÓn en pantalla): el chapo le dice (informaciÓn en pantalla): >>> luego hablan de lo que podrÍa ser una nueva visita como sean penn continua trabajando para hacer realidad el proyecto. en otra comunicaciÓn

not even sean penn will find me.> meanwhile it may be no laughing matter for sean penn, mexican authorities want to talk to him. nick valencia is live in mexico city with the latest on all the fallout. >> reporter: good morning. the formal paperwork has been filed for can interest tradi ex. an official tells me we could expect el chapo in a u.s. courtroom as early as this summer. meanwhile we're hearing from the drug kingpin for the first time in his own words. he talks about his life and his role in the world of drug trafficking. in a two minute clip posted to "rolling stone".com over the weekend, joaquin "el chapo" guzman gives an exclusive interview to caitlin castillo and sean penn. >> translator: it's a reality that drugs destroy. unfortunately, as i said, where i grew up there is no other way. there still isn't. a way to survive. another way to work. >> reporter: el chapo speaking while on the run, followup question for a face-to-face meeting he had with penn in october. >> translator: all i do 1 defend myself,

joaquin el chapo guzman agrees to interview with actor and activist sean penn, cinematic plot twist tody surreal story. in a report for "rolling stone" penn writes the pair met face-to-face october 2015, 3 months after el chapo's brazen prison escape. according to penn the meeting happened in the middle of a mexican jungle and included tequila and tacos. his irrational fear of being watched by armed drones and surprised by el chapo's quote chivalry. these clips are part of replies sent who asked the questions offcamera. >>> the meeting was brokered by mexican actress, kate del castillo, it was 2012 when del castillo reportedly developed a friendship with el chapo, after posting a series of tweets, critical of the mexican government. while celebrating the notorious drug trafficker. del castillo has not commented since publication of the "rolling stone" article saturday. cnn has reached out to her. their communication continued over the course of the next three years, even after the 2014 arrest of el chapo that landed him here at the penitentiary. they stayed in touch via blackberry mess

that's what "el chapo" is asking sean penn. sean penn tells him, a lot of americans know you. then they have these scenes where, oh, you know what? maybe it's like scarfey. maybe it exists because america likes drugs. i just think he's not a good human being. what strikes me about this, what you heard from eric, what you heard from dana, no one gives approval for a story. the editor said he was just giving quote approval. i think what they were after was a scoop, and i think this scoop has backfired on him. >> we're talking about it. >> they're going to get the eyall, and i don't think they have any journalistic ethics, anyway, and that's been out the window for some time, so all they care about is getting attention for the article and they'll continue to have some leadership. matt damon says he has a subscription that will be on his doorstep any minute. >> is there any possible charge that could be brought against sean penn or the magazine? >> put it this way. really? no. but you would think there should be some kind of repercussion for people engaging in that. >> didn't time

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good to see you, my friend. >> thanks. >>> sean penn facing a whole lot of criticism for interviewingpo and not telling authorities about it. republican presidential candidate marco rubio calling the interview, quote, grotesque but did acknowledge that penn had a constitutional right to meet with guzman. i want to bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent. let's start with the big simple question, the likelihood that sean penn faces charges? >> the likelihood is zero. the legal word for this criticism is stupid. it's stupid, craig. look, there is a whole rich debate about el chapo, about his murderous operation, the drugs that have cause sod much trouble and suffering in mexico and the united states. i don't diminish that. but what reporters do is go to where the problems are, tracking what isis and hezbollah are up to, government leaders of iran who are hostile or sometimes fugitive. we could run through examples out of the heat of this moment, think about other big fugitives who have been interviewed by major news organizations. julian assange, osama bin laden interviewed by cnn. >>

aunque sean penn llega a mÉxico a cubrir la evicita la entrevis nunca se dio. que lo que hemos visto en los medios de comunicaciÓn. no nos ha dicho nada por la propia seguridad. de nosotros, entonces quÉ quieren que les diga si ya todo estÁ dicho en la televisiÓn, a travÉs de los medios. nosotros no nos queda mÁs que pues soportar el temporal. >>> bueno ellos dicen que no temen por su seguridad y hauc hablan con kate todos los dÍas, pues no tenÍan idea de este encuentro entre el chapo y su hija. marÍa marÍa celeste en telemundo no pudimos saber si eran autÉnticas las sfofotografÍas. >>> esta historia tiene a todo el mundo integrados esta no es la primer vez que el chapo quiso contar su historia. un periodista argentino dice que el chapo lo buscÓ para contar su autobiografÍa, y revelÓ a marÍa paula ochoa cÓmo fue este acercamiento. >>> se trata de diego fonseca un periodista independiente y autor de varias obras literarÍas, quien nos contÓ que la propuesta lo sorprendiÓ, pero tambiÉn lo llenÓ de miedo al conocer los detalles de cÓmo se llevarÍan los encuentros c

not even sean penn will find me." among those condemning penn is republican presidential candidate marco rubio (marco rubio, republican presidential candidate) "if one of these american actors, who have benefited from the greatness of this country, who have made money from our free-enterprise system want to go fond all over a criminal and a drug trafficker in their interviews, they have a constitutional right to do it. i find it grotesque." in the end, it seems, el chapo wanted to have the meeting, an interview that might've cost him his freedom. extradition proceedings are underway... to bring guzman to the u-s to face seven drug- related indictments. a source at the attorney general's office says the whole process could take up to a year - or longer. authorities in italy... aren't ruling out any suspects in the mysterious death of an american woman. police are treating the death of 35-year-old ashley olsen as a homicide from florida was last seen at a florence nightclub late thursday evening. the following day - she

sean penn dice que el querÍa ser una entrevista y no una pelÍcula, mientras que kate dice que ellos ibanonstruyÓ en direcciÓn noroeste y en lÍnea recta al centro penitenciario, iniciando en el sÓtano que comunica a la bodega, a partir de ahÍ construyeron un tÚnel en descenso y en lÍnea recta al penal, cabe mencionar que en todo momento contaron con ayuda de una brÚjula, ademÁs de saber con precisiÓn ubicación exacta de la celda nÚmero 20, lo que les permitiÓ construir el tÚnel en lÍnea recta y sin desvíos al centro penitenciario. se calcula que la construcciÓn del tÚnel les llevÓ entre 8 y 10 meses, y en ese proceso intervinieron entre 10 y 15 personas. una vez llegado al punto exacto por debajo del penal procedieron a subir de forma vertical en forma escalonada, donde construyeron escaleras mecÁnicas hasta llegar a la base del cajÓn de cimentación, a una altura de 16,8 m, en relaciÓn al piso del tÚnel, joaquÍn guzmÁn loera se cambiÓ de ropa dejando en el lugar el uniforme que usaba dentro del penal, se calcula que el recorrido dentro del tÚnel les tomÓ 19 minutos, y el tiempo total de l

i'm no fan of sean penn's politics.his is the same person who said that hugo chavez was a "model democrat" and that any journalist who called him a dictator should go to jail. so it's no surprise that sean penn didn't use journalistic ethics and standards when it came to interviewing el chapo. i haven't read the interview. oftentimes softball interviews can glean a lot of new information, because that person feels so comfortable. i'm not sure if that was, you know, achieved in this case, but you know, to give sean penn a little bit of credit, let's face it, guys, it takes a lot of courage to go up into the mountains and sit across from a vicious drug dealer and conduct an interview. >> let's talk about that issue about the journalism aspect of this a little bit. >> sure. >> one is, do you think that journalistically speaking, i don't know if you had a chance to read the piece but journalistically speaking was there any journalistic value in that interview? >> yes. i disagree a little bit. i think that it shows moxie and

done by none other than sean penn. one of the questions from the actor -- are you prone to violence? do you try to avoid it? or do you use it as a last resort? >> translator: look, all i do is defend myself. do i go looking for trouble? never. >> rolling stone acknowledged penn and the magazine made an agreement to submit the article to him for approval. what do you make of sean penn meeting with this guy, at the time a fugitive from justice? i from sean penn. i don't understand. you look at them from outside of his film work, you see him constantly inserting himself in these news cycle stories. valiant effort with katrina, but this seems to have a different flavor, a different motivation, and quite frankly, i don't like it. >> let me read some phrases from the article, about 10,000 words, saying el chapo has an almost mythic repitation. a robin hood-like figure, providing much-needed services to the area. sean penn says i'm drawn to what may be inconsistent with the portrayals our media have. >> sean penn should stick

las narocnovvcos >>> esta pasando, antes era mas escondido >>> asi lo revelo el actor y r director sean penn de la revista rolling s stone, segun narra penn el con a contacto con el inicio en el 2 1 2010 cuando escribio esto en twitter la ca arta llevo a que el prop c chapo estableciera comuinnicaci con ella hasta cuando estaba p o profugo, ademas penn dice que l ella fue el enlace y lo acompaÑo a su lujgar gar escondido >>> nos hemos comunicado con la asistente de la actrizx que dij que no desaria entrevistas >>> seguira en todos los mdedio de comunicacion, edgardo kate l del dacscastillo no es la un t protagsonista >>> as i es porque sean penn e t tmambien un activista plolitic q que ha sidop muy criticado, vamd a con jose mendez dsesde clalifora que nos cuenta mas sobre quien es sean penn >>> asi es, sean penn ha sido o conocido por se r un personaj o controvertido y ha dedjado a h muchos odesconcertados >>> sean penn nacio en santa monica, clalifornia en, es p producciocitoddfirector, acto i gugu guionista de cine, es un pole ctivista, en erl 2013 se opkuso a la invasion a irak e en el 2

esta es una noticia en desarrollo, sean penn rompe el silencio dice que su encuentro con el chapo guzmÁnno fue importante para su captura, y el artÍculo de la revista rolling stones fracasÓ por no hablar de las polÍticas antidrogas tenemos mÁs de esta historia, pero ahora otros titulares del dÍa. >>> veremos quÉ vinculo uniÓ a la actriz con el lÍder del cartel de sinaloa. advertencia de viaje, recomiendan a mujeres embarazadas no viajar a brasil para evitar la picadura del mosquito, esto causa estragos en mileses de bebÉ de la regiÓn. y fiebre del power ball se desconoce la y dicen repetididee los 3 multimillonarios, una de tennessee. esto es noticiero telemundo, con josÉ dÍaz balart. >>> hola quÉ tal buenas tardes, marÍa celeste tiene el dia libre, a una semana de la entrevista con el chapo guzmÁn, sean penn dice que el gobierno mexicano lo ha puesto en riesgo, tenemos las declaraciones del actor, rogelio. >>> sÍ efectivamente josÉ. el actor y director dice que el gobierno de mÉxico no la puesto en la mira del narcotrÁfico porque gracias a Él y a kate del castellana pudier castella cast

sean penn, del castillo, and handlers booked flights. a minivan took them to a hotel where we now noknow el chapo wa staying. penn's driver was el chapo's son, at tights exceeding speeds over 100 miles an hour. two sing f-engine prop planes drove them two hours away. the suv drove seven hours sbu the jungle into his compound. it's about 11 miles from where he was captured friday. with me now, a criminal defense attorney also known as joseph "the shark" lopez. thank you so much for being with me. >> you're welcome, thank you. >> you have represented some of these alleged drug lords and you have the mexican government now saying they're eager to extradite el chapo. you say interestingly chicago is the most likely place he'll be prosecuted. why chicago when you've about got eight states with these outstanding charges against them? >> chicago is the only place that has two recorded conversations of el chapo engaging in a heroin transaction with the flores brothers. here they have taps discussing the quantities, how much it was going to be, if

sean penn is not a journalist, he's an actor. fact that we got more information and this lead led to the recapture of guzman, so the end result is pretty good. a lot of information in that article gave us insight into who this person is, how he thinks, this lifestyle and led to his ultimate capture. i applaud sean penn for doing it. jon: here is one of his lines. he's talking about how he expected to find el chapo to be soulless. he says soullessness. wasn't it soullessness that i must perceive in him for myself to be perceived as other than an apologist? i tried shard folks and reminded myself over and over the devastation existing in all corners of the narco world. this simple man from a simple place surrounded by the simple affections of his sons towards their father and his towards them does not strike me as the big bad wolf. >> he is an apologist explaining sure he has killed people, but only if it's really necessary. he's a businessman first sean penn writes and he resorts to that only when it would help his business. you a

reportero: el autor sean penn le da respuestas a desprender de muchos.aba con este acercamiento. sean penn: estuve presente para reportar sobre las cosas querÍa que reportara, no estuvo presente en asesinatos, para lo que estuve presente, lo escribÍ para usarlo para un artÍculo sobre la polÍtica de la guerra contra las drogas. reportara: artÍculo que tenía reglas antes de ser publicado, segÚn sus palabras. antes de que sean titulares debÍa escribir, enviÁrselo al chapo, si no estaba de acuerdo no se publicarÍa. un dÍa despuÉs de la recaptura del narcotraficante, sean penn lo dio a conocer. quÉ buscaba el chapo guzmÁn con este acercamiento segÚn el actor? sean penn: yo dirÍa que de las promesas y el que tuvimos, podrÍa decirse de alguna manera, querÍa quedar en la posteridad. reportera: sean penn dice que el gobierno de mÉxico lo puso en la mira de los narcotraficantes, sobre si tiene o no sobre su vida contestÓ: sean penn: ellos han estado en este negocio desde hace mucho tiempo, lidiando con asuntos relacionados con el complemento de la ley, con la desi

sean penn was traveling with a number other people.ssibility this actually helping find this drug lord. but it's an awfully strange circumstances, a huge coup for rolling stone but a controversy with lots of other journalists saying they would never agree to these conditions. the bottom line sean penn is not normally a journalist and a celebrity and probably his celebrity status that got him to get into this jungle and to be able to see one of the most wanted men in the world. >> i expect after this controversy we will hear more from sean penn or "rolling stone" pretty soon. brian and page, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> in california, there is a community that is outraged and they are demanding action now after a damaged well spewing gas is making residents really sick. >>> plus, president obama and his final state of the union address. what we can expect and what he will focus on. we will did you say discuss that next. >> american leadership, including our military power, is stopping isil's advance. along . people who gave me opti

it's beyond belief. >> some people would draw the conclusion, well, maybe sean penn had something to h it because he met with him and maybe gave him up somehow. you don't believe that? >> no. in mr. penn's article, he says he passed two government checkpoints. a very well known actress in messco went through these checkpoints. so we keep hearing story after story and the stories always change. you as a journalist, me as an investigator know the first story is rarely the true story and that's certainly the case here. >> is there something you want to know about el chapo's capt e capture? why do you want to see an unedited version of the tape. >> if you look at the tape, it is highly edited. there are a lot of things that you don't see. it's like the dog that didn't bark. and so you're not seeing any of the people who were shot or wounded. you're not seeing guzman. and, again, the story keeps changing about this. and so at one point he's captured in the house. another point, he's captured in the hotel. now we hear he popped up in the middle of a busy intersection where nobody ever photo

take penn vo entretanto sean penn hablo por primera vez sobre su entrevista con el chapo... nta minutos, penn dijo que su objetivo al realizar la entrevista era abrir un debate publico sobre la guerra contra las drogas. y que lamenta que eso no ha sucedido ya que en lugar de ello el enfoque ha sido en la forma en que logro tener acceso al famoso narcotraficante... take sot/vo sean penn: " pense que a raiz de esta entevista con esta persona podria comenzar una conversacion sobre la politica de la guerra contra las drogas" el cartel de sinaloa es reponsable del trafico de miles de millones de dolares en drogas hacia los estados unidos. penn dice no tiene sentido atacar unicamente a los narcotraficantes . en el articulo dice que la guerra contra las drogas ha fracasado con 27 mil asesinatos vinculados al trafico de drogas por ano en mexico y un creciente indice de adiccion en los estados unidos. take sot/vo sean penn: "tengo muchos arrepentimientos. me arrepiento de que toda la discusion sobre este articulo ignora su proposito paola on cam sean penn dice que su articulo fracaso

kate del castillo dice que sean penn secuestr'las casi 6 horas del encuentro. tambiÉn causÓ la muerte de su madre y su hermano. el padre estÁ devastado por su tragedia que ocurriÓ mientras Él trataba de desenterrar el auto de la nieve. empieza hoy el triste ritual de sepultar a los suyos. reportera: familiares, amigos y vecinos asistieron hoy al funeral de la madre de las dos criaturas que como ella, murieron por intoxicaciÓn de monÓxido de carbono. ademÁs se supo ayer que estaba embarazada. su hija mayor de 4 aÑos luchÓ por su vida pero anoche, perdiÓ tambiÉn la batalla. >> grave de verdad, se lo dejamos todo a dios. >> una muerte muy inesperada. reportera el vehÍculo se encuentra aÚn estacionada en el mismo lugar. el padre de las criaturas estaba limpiando el auto de la acumulaciÓn de nieve mientras su familia aguardaba en el interior. >> es algo que no tiene explicaciÓn, tan rÁpido que pasÓ, uno se queda impactado. reportera: aparentemente ocurriÓ cuando la nieve bloqueó por completo el tubo de escape, el monÓxido de carbono que no tiene olor ni color, se fi

>> sean penn wanted to write a movie about sean penn going to see a drug lord. i don't think this was so much like a geography of like a mad man. i am sean penn and] bleep [. >> why doesn't he just say it? >> word count. >> exactly. you have to fill page. look, joe,. >> yes? >> you are all about word count, right? >> all about it. look, here is the deal. sean penn, obviously a jerk. he loves south american dictators. he loves the castro brothers there in cuba. there is not an anti-american he doesn't want to hang around with, right? >> i don't know. i had a lot of questions on this whole thing. >> really? >> yes. >> fire them at me. >> one, was it like some sort of study that he was doing? i was trying to figure it out. my wife and i had a conversation because we were both like is "rolling stone" doing this? are they writing articles and attaching celebrities to different things? is he studying this for a part later? >> that's my theory. i think he wants to play el chapo. >> the only person who can play el chapo is the plane, the plane. sean penn like "rolling s

he didn't even know who sean penn was. was it naive of you, naive, to believe that you could come to mexico, meet with kate del castillo, and go see el chapo without somebody knowing about it? >> penn: i assumed they knew about it. and i say so in the article. i was-- i was stunned-- that-- that he would risk our trip. i was stunned. and he agreed to a future meeting including a formal interview with sean penn eight days later. when the manhunt grew more intense, the face-to-face interview became too risky. instead, penn sent a list of questions and el chapo recorded his answers. the questions were not confrontational. they included el chapo growing up in poverty and who he blamed for the drug problem. you understand that a lot of people, a lot of people would have wanted you, in this conversation, in a sense, to see how he would react if you wanted to hold him accountable for his life. >> penn: uh-huh. >> rose: did you-- >> penn: or-- or-- >> rose: consider that? or? >> penn: it just means that, if somebody wants me to ask

from justice." >> i think this is desperate from sean penn.and. you look at them from outside of his film work, you see hi constantly inserting himself in these news cycle stories. valiant effort with katrina, but this seems to have a different motivation, different flavor, and frankly i don't like it. >> let me read some phrases from the article, about 10,000 words, saying he has a robin hood-like figure, providings much-needed services toe the area and i'm drawing with the inconsistent perceptions. >> sean penn should stick with acting, stay in hollywood, because the article shows a complete moral inversion of journalism. basically "rolling stone" and sean penn are aiding and abetting a known felon with an international global conspiracy, a criminal syndicate. >> how are they aiding and abetting? >> they're allowing him to have a platform to get his message out. a lot of it is mexican positive drove el chapo to go into the marijuana and poppy fields when he was a youth, but that doesn't explain why he's the head of a global syndicate. he sho

that's not about sean penn.ust about interviewing a guy like this. >> our understanding is everybody kind of knew where he was. the feds, the mexicans, everybody seemed to know where he was. finding him was reportedly not the hardest part of this. it was getting him to talk, which somehow he did. >> well, if you read penn's article and maybe some value in it this way. you realize the ringsf people around "el chapo," and getting to "el chapo" required going through all of these various rings of soldiers and lieutenants and attorneys and what have you, and that does not sound like that was an easy process. you had to have an in. >> that part is for sure. nice to talk to you. thank you. we'll look for your stuff at "washington post."com. >>> so, read that if you want to if you want to know more about sean penn. it's there for you. otherwise, man alive. clearly the mexican attorney general is speaking now. should we get more we'll bring it to you. >> there's word more officers in philadelphia could be in harm's way

cancer treatment centers of america. >>> breaking news about the secret meeting actor sean penn pulled off with joaquin guzman, known as el chapo. penn interviewed him in october while el chapo was still a fugitive. a mexican actress helped arrange the meeting. penn wrote about it in a "rolling stone" article that ran the day after el chapo was captured. he was caught after a deadly raid on his hideout in northwest mexico. "rolling stone" went to great lengths to keep the interview secret. tonight, cnn's pamela brown has exclusive information what mexican and u.s. officials knew about the actor's plans and joins me now. so what have you learned? >> we've learned from law enforcement sources that u.s. law enforcement knew about this connection that sean penn had with el chapo before his capture. but they suspected that perhaps he was trying to broker a movie deal even before sean penn went to mexico in october. communications that he had with the actress kate del castillo garnered attention from u.s. law enforcement. around the same time, mexican authorities uncovered these text message

sean penn's secret meeting with the world's most wanted drug lord. joaquin chapo guzman. authorities say that meeting which took place while penn was on assignment played a role in el chapo being recaptured on friday. we begin with meg oliver. >> reporter: it's an unassuming backdrop for an interview with the most notorious drug kingpin in the world, the first he has given in decades. the questions come from the cameraman. they're written by actor sean penn who met el chapo for seven hours in october deep in the jungle, convinced chapo to send this tape soon afterward. during the 17-minute recording, responsible for so many drugs in the world? guzman says, no that is false, because the day i don't exist it's not going to decrease 97 way at all. as for drug trafficking, that's false. the interview is a remarkable twist in an already convoluted tale. it was just two days ago mexican authorities raided this seaside hotel and arrested chapo after a long gunfight. then paraded him in front of the cameras, perhaps to soften their embarrassment over his escape from prison last ju

sean penn, idiot, and the tella novella actress connects sean penn with the biggest fugitive of all-timeects them so sean penn can get media rights for his life, how about sean penn, calling fbi saying, i know where he is, how about they tweet each other for business financial gain. >> there is no good is sris >> he is now aiding and abetting an unknown fe felon, he is not a journalist. lou: i got a kick out of matt damon, talks about his creative impulses had to be flowing, does he face legal exposure. >> he does, if he is not a journalist he is then aiding and abetting. announce felon that is a felony in itself. >> yes, and a fugitive from justice, who every jurisdiction in the united states claims to have control over him. >> miami, chicago, new york. lou: admits he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. >> i don't say admits, i say relishes, lik he is bragging. he is a big guy because he has killed, it is not a confession or an admission but he is bragging about it. >> he is so proud of his drug empire. lou: they were never able to get him to admit it before, perhaps s

el capo querÍa regalarleun celular color rosa, querÍa llevar a la reuniÓn al actor sean penn, el dÍale regalÓ el chapo empiezan las conversaciones directas entre kate del castillo y el narcotraficante. ella usa el seudÓnimo guapa y el el de papa. " gracias por tu confianza, estado tratando de hacer un equipo importante con gente real y respetada en hollywood, quiero que los escuches pero independientemente de nuestro proyecto me da mucha ilusiÓn poder verte a los ojos, en persona, gracias ". el chavo le dice que confÍe en el punto " yo te cuidarÉ, como te comentÉ, no soy tomador, pero contigo amarÉ por el gusto de estar conviviendo contigo ". ella le confiesa que por primera vez se siente protegida. " llevarÉ mi tequila para compartirlo contigo, porque es un sueÑo que ya me tocaba cumplir, gracias a ti nos veremos pronto ". el 10 de octubre una semana despuÉs del famoso encuentro entre kate del castillo y el actor sean penn y el chapo guzmÁn, donde hablaron de realizar la pelÍcula sobre la vida del capo, reanudan el intercambio de texto, esta vezutiliza el seudÓnimo hermosa sin h y c

new undercover photos of sean penn on his way to meet el chapo. what the actor is saying about that controversial meeting. >>> and a woman strangled in her apartment in italy. is this a repeat of the amanda knocks saga? >>> and smelling blood in the water. donald trump hammering ted cruz. could this put him over the top in iowa? let's go "outfront." ♪ >>> good evening. "outfront" tonight, going for the kill. donald trump hammering ted cruz on his, quote, canada problem. cruz, of course, was born in canada and renounced his citizenship only in 2014. >> ted cruz is a problem. he's got a problem. whether you like it or not, ted has to figure it out. >> trump's comments that you see there at a new hampshire rally today come as the new poll shows his lead growing in that state. 32% of likely gop primary voters support him in new hampshire, up from 26% in november. that's a huge surge. but it's what is happening in iowa that is driving trump's assault on cruz. a poll today there showing cruz and trump in a statistical dead heat. trump now at 31% to cruz

could sean penn be in trouble for interviewing el chapo before the fugitive was captured? " and how it could backfire. >>> new this half hour, an unexpected act of kindness caught on camera. >> one subway passenger giving the shirt off his back to a fellow passenger in need. the generosity in the freezing cold. >>> and later in "the skinny," the big golden globe winners and winning fashions on the red carpet. all the funny, unforgettable moments on stage, as well, on this monday, january 11th. >>> from abc news, this is "world news now." >> good morning, i'm reena ninan. >> i'm kendis gibson. we'll get started with the breaking news coming out of london this morning. entertainer david bowie has died after an 18-month battle with cancer. >> the multitalented english singer, songwriter, and actor has been a driving force in pop culture for nearly 50 years, winning him numerous awards including two grammys and a daytime emmy. his androgenous image was instrumental in pushing music to new innovations in the '70s and '80s. >> really comfortable going on stage as somebody else. a

sean penn interview. so far, u.s. officials have not commented officially, and none of my sources are suggesting that they are interested in prosecuting sean penn. they are far more interested in getting el chapo back to the united states. pierre thomas, abc news, washington. >> yeah. i think that's one of the important things that they are trying to get in which is that they think if he can escape that prison, then definitely he can escape anything that mexico has to offer. >> completely. what i was fascinated by is that actress kate del castillo -- i want to know more about her. apparently how did she win such good favor with this man, right? and it was a tweet that she sent out actually that surfaced around the internet. and it was talking about if she had to choose between the mexican government or el chapo, she would pick el chapo. and she said that's kind of how he -- she got his attention. she said perhaps it would come as no surprise, this home-grown icon of entertainment would catch the interest of any he was

being on the run, the drug lord, el chapo guzman agrees to an interview with actor and activist sean penn twist to the surreal story. [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: in a report for "rolling stone" penn writes they met face-to-face in october of 2015. three months after the prison escape. the meeting happened in the middle of the mexican jungle and included tequila and tacos. his fear of watched by armed drones and surprised by el chapo's chivalry. these are follow-up questions sent by penn to a guzman representative asked off camera. [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: the meeting penn says was brokered by actress kate del castillo. it was 2012 when she developed a friendship with el chapo after a series of tweets. while celebrating the drug trafficker. she has not commented since publication of the article saturday night. cnn has reached out to her. with the world's drug trafficker behind bars, the next step is extradition. a source tells us that could happen as soon as this summer. john and christine. >>> nick, what a story. breaking news. claims that north korea is holding an american

how's it being viewed in mexico, sean penn's involvement with this?saying it's too bad that sean penn takes this so lightly saying while this was just something that he, you know, had experience doing and that compared to other cartels el chapo guzman is not the worst because there are literally thousands of people in mexico that have lost their lives because of the drug wars and if you don't think joaquin el chapo guzman is violent, ruthless and a killer, i invite you to see his handiwork because it is the things of horror movies. but having said that, what happened here and the video you showed, thomas, first shown on televisa, pro-government television network and confirmed by the mexican government that was shot during the assault on joaquin el chapo guzman's compound on friday, about 4:30 in the morning, there you see it right there, there's thing that is are obvious from that. el chapo's men had no shortage of bull lets. they same back with a sea of bullets when they noticed the marines coming in. and what was also very apparent was that el chap

(comentario de sean penn en pantalla). >>> aunque segÚn penn nunca se habÍan conocido en persona solamenteoductora y la cena comienza con un brindis con tequila. segÚn penn el capo dice:. >>> nunca cubrieron el rostro vieron pocas armas el Único requisito no llevar celulares ni computadores ni siquiera en donde escribir asÍ que penn le pidiÓ entrevista de 2 dÍas a "el chapo" y esa noche sean penn pregunta cosas que podrÁ recordar para sorpresa el capo habla sin miedo y asegura que ningÚn gobierno es reto para Él. (comentario en pantalla) . >>> una vez kate del castillo se va acco dormir la dinÁmica camÓ >>> se equi aequipo con armas ly penn le preguntÓ t (entrevista en pantalla). >>> penn le pregunta sobre el gobierno mexicano y luego sobado n donald trump lo que dice ah! mi amigo antes de despedirse juntos se toman esta fotografÍa para verificar el encuentro se despiden con la promesa de volverse a ver en una entrevista pero penn le enviÓ las preguntas enfocado en su familia y como iniciÓ el negocio de las drogas. >> bueno, a la edad de 15 aÑos en adelante. >>> en el video que el capo le