wilson. so she is full of anecdotes and fresh information. and sean wilentz is one of the great all-time historians. he has a book coming out dealing with slavery and anti-slavery. let's get right into it. why did you name your book the moralist? >> mainly because most biographies are named either wilson or woodrow wilson. [laughter] i wanted to do something different. i thought long and hard about this. i want to find something i thought was a central quality in wilson's character. i am a student of character more than a presidential historian. i thought long and hard about it, read all his stuff, and moral concerns are front and center. that was why i chose that. >> wilson is born in virginia. we consider him a southern president. he spent time in augusta, georgia. he was born in 1858, before the civil war. what was his childhood like? how did that time in the south influence him? >> he had a vivid childhood memories of the civil war. his father was a pastor in augusta. the church was sometimes a stockade for union prisoners. the churchyard, i mean.