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cautionary notes this is the system of seattle system, not your system. you have to look that principals and see if they apply to the same work the planning side, the modeling side, the adaptive side and i'll talk briefly for a few seconds on mayors initiative on climate control because it gives an as political environment to work in and then the seattle system. the mayor of seattle nickels started the protocols for the city and started process with a lot of other mayors to start aggressively dealing with climate change if your interested at the bottom we have the website where there was an advisory commission made up of a number of corporate entities including starbucks and boeing and they came up with a plan for seattle the materials are there and if your interested i encourage you to go ahead and look at those and see the things being done with other mayors across the country. >> our system, we have two water supply systems the cedar system and toll system that supplies one third and we own the entire head waters on 90 thousand acres and we control tha
cautionary notes this is the system of seattle system, not your system. you have to look that principals and see if they apply to the same work the planning side, the modeling side, the adaptive side and i'll talk briefly for a few seconds on mayors initiative on climate control because it gives an as political environment to work in and then the seattle system. the mayor of seattle nickels started the protocols for the city and started process with a lot of other mayors to start aggressively...
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seattle and portland. say 85, that's beautiful. boise, 89, should be nice. low humidity for you. a little hot in vegas at 107. the valley of california will be warm once again. coastal areas, cool in san francisco. winds haven't shifted much offshore. on shore wind for a long time. that's why your temperatures remain only in the 60s. that's a 92 and sunny expected. tucson, arizona, mix of sun and clouds. we'll have that weekend forecast later in the show. >> temperatures in the 60s and 70s in san francisco. i want to be there. >> you have to wear a sweater. >> i would enjoy it. it's too hot here. >> i know. >> thanks, bill. >>> earnings soar, more outrageous bonuses, and the most successful horror franchise of all time. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. >>> plus, a true heavyweight battle, angelina jolie takes on leonardo dicaprio this weekend at the box office. >>> ichero robs the home run champ, a walk-off in miami, and a-rod is one big swing closer to 600. you're watching "early today." >>> good morning, and welcome back to "early today." i'm veronica d
seattle and portland. say 85, that's beautiful. boise, 89, should be nice. low humidity for you. a little hot in vegas at 107. the valley of california will be warm once again. coastal areas, cool in san francisco. winds haven't shifted much offshore. on shore wind for a long time. that's why your temperatures remain only in the 60s. that's a 92 and sunny expected. tucson, arizona, mix of sun and clouds. we'll have that weekend forecast later in the show. >> temperatures in the 60s and...
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supply during the summer and if we're in a situation where we have a longer drought period we like seattle have annual refills with reservoirs and a summer draw down where we're serving from our reservoirs if that presents challenges for us. increase in wild fires. it's a huge concern for us and i'm sure for like san francisco we're an unfiltered drinking source and our watershed is in the mountains where there's lots of reck rauks and eventhough it's protected and there's no entry allowed our watershed we're are neighbors of an intensely utilized effort. water rights issue is only issues with our ground source but we do share that series of,aquafo r's and we have the city of vancouver on the other side that also taps that water reservoir. and fish flows we're currently in the process of pursuing habitat conservation plan to come in compliance in the clean water act so we're very concerned about any impact that could impact our ability to maintain fish flows we're currently agreeing to. next slide. so, in terms of what we've done to study climate change effects on our system. in 2002 throu
supply during the summer and if we're in a situation where we have a longer drought period we like seattle have annual refills with reservoirs and a summer draw down where we're serving from our reservoirs if that presents challenges for us. increase in wild fires. it's a huge concern for us and i'm sure for like san francisco we're an unfiltered drinking source and our watershed is in the mountains where there's lots of reck rauks and eventhough it's protected and there's no entry allowed our...
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medford around 100, sunny in seattle. gorgeous in the pacific northwest for friday, but hot in the interior sections, california, nevada and all of arizona. >>> if you're watching us on kpnx news 12 in phoenix, july is safety month, and that dial and write 911 at the children's museum of phoenix, kids will learn how to recognize and dial for help in case of an emergency. and that's your "pacific event of the day." with the news stories, a 12-month-old kid or a -- >> 12 months is little early. maybe 5, but yes, you're absolutely right. >> i'll go look it up now. >> all right, we'll hold you to it. >>> and now here's an early look at this morning's headlines in entertainment. if justin bieber is the current teen heartthrob girls love and guys love to hate, the guys just got one more big reason to grumble. the 16-year-old canadian was spotted this week driving his brand new set of wheels. he's treated himself to a $200,000 lamborghini. must be nice. >>> no lindsay elohan news today, but her father is in trouble again. tmz re
medford around 100, sunny in seattle. gorgeous in the pacific northwest for friday, but hot in the interior sections, california, nevada and all of arizona. >>> if you're watching us on kpnx news 12 in phoenix, july is safety month, and that dial and write 911 at the children's museum of phoenix, kids will learn how to recognize and dial for help in case of an emergency. and that's your "pacific event of the day." with the news stories, a 12-month-old kid or a -- >> 12...
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. >> rain gauge wise no body probably cares about the city of seattle but we could do some things. other than quality control and we're going to spend more money and time but i think it's easily transferable to others. >> let's go back to the floor. yes? >> i want to go back to the point of the technical and public engage meant. it's one piece of the puzzle but provide as lot of opportunity. water efficiency provides most of the savings on the consumer side. the numbers we heard about 18 percent, almost all of that is not water agency and waist water treatment but keeping the water in the homes using the washing machines and so on. saving that can save humans money which then energy games people into, well, maybe we should listen to the engineers and people trying create the model. >> thank you. >> yes? yes? >> i want to tie into the first speaker and segway the opportunity for public, private partnerships and collaboration. i have an exand pl in california that's local to the san francisco, puc, the california commission has listed grant under their renewable fuels program and the
. >> rain gauge wise no body probably cares about the city of seattle but we could do some things. other than quality control and we're going to spend more money and time but i think it's easily transferable to others. >> let's go back to the floor. yes? >> i want to go back to the point of the technical and public engage meant. it's one piece of the puzzle but provide as lot of opportunity. water efficiency provides most of the savings on the consumer side. the numbers we...
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seattle may have done that and port land may have integrated it into management. temperature is going up, demand for water is going up. how many of our water agencies include in their demand forecast for the year 3020, 3050, climate effects on demand. the last california water plant did a much better job of acknowledging the issue of climate change but not yet adequately took action. we're beginning to work now on the next one and the intention i believe, is there will be a more deeper analysis and i look forward to that. next slide. this is a graph, and i want to say couple of things. this is from a study that a coleague of mine did on impacts of changes on colorado river. we looked at climate general circulation models from hypo thetic there's a lot of information and this is a small piece of that. this shows frequency and volume of uncontrolled spills which is basically meaning floods. these are percent changes of flow on,x factors. 10, five, ten, twenty percent changes on flows. those are plausible in colorado. the,y axis is number of years in which we get plu
seattle may have done that and port land may have integrated it into management. temperature is going up, demand for water is going up. how many of our water agencies include in their demand forecast for the year 3020, 3050, climate effects on demand. the last california water plant did a much better job of acknowledging the issue of climate change but not yet adequately took action. we're beginning to work now on the next one and the intention i believe, is there will be a more deeper analysis...
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>> we heard from seattle that they went down to sort of a regional type model. what's the status of that, some of us have regional or coastal, not snow back. when can we expect possible help for modeling of that? >> right now. it exists. that's what we used in this california assessment. for the scenarios they were all down scaled to twelve kilometers covering california and nevada. it's not totally adequate and i'm not saying this is a solved problem. the premium grape growers want to know what's going on in napa, valley but for a lot of water related problems i think we're okay. [inaudible] >> what's the long-term climate - >> hopefully, we get on to that green emissions trajectory which would have co2 levels leveling off and declining. there's a lot of inertia in the system. we all have cars and you can't change power plants overnight and et cetera, et cetera. but in fact the earth response to climate is not going to make too much difference until about the middle part of the century between all those scenarios. through 2050 a climate model is sort of a clima
>> we heard from seattle that they went down to sort of a regional type model. what's the status of that, some of us have regional or coastal, not snow back. when can we expect possible help for modeling of that? >> right now. it exists. that's what we used in this california assessment. for the scenarios they were all down scaled to twelve kilometers covering california and nevada. it's not totally adequate and i'm not saying this is a solved problem. the premium grape growers want...
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have to be radically different than strategies that edward and chuck have sitting in portland and seattle and i think if there's anything you take away if there's not a one size fits all for any of this. not for california or the western states. you really have to customize based where your sitting. climate change and urban water supply. growing demand for water. however, we grew nearly ten years in san diego increased by 6 hundred thousand people and we did not add to our water demand and that came from just extraordinary efforts but the growing demand, we have hardened conservation and continuing growth and increased population and economic activity and obviously hotter or dryer weather. uncertainty of our import and small surface level supply. less reliance on the hydraulic dependence supply and all of that has to be considered. how we are respond sag three prong action plan. i want to touch lightly on each of these. first is diversity kabs of our water supply portfolio and second is constructing a variety until facilitys to address the ever changing demands we have and third is pruden
have to be radically different than strategies that edward and chuck have sitting in portland and seattle and i think if there's anything you take away if there's not a one size fits all for any of this. not for california or the western states. you really have to customize based where your sitting. climate change and urban water supply. growing demand for water. however, we grew nearly ten years in san diego increased by 6 hundred thousand people and we did not add to our water demand and that...
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. >>> in sports, an extra innings letdown for the white sox in seattle.ame went scoreless into the 11th inning when chicago's omar vizquel finally drove in a run to make it 1-0. bottom of the 11th, white sox closer bobby jenks gave up a two-run single for his second blown save in four days. seattle won 2-1. >>> the catch of the day at yankee stadium was by the yanks' ball boy. a leaping grab on a line drive foul hit by the angels' juan rivera. if the seventh after yanks' brett gardner was ee jeked, collin curtis hit his first major league homer, a three-run shot that helped new york win 10-6. >>> the national leaves braves led 4-3 going into the ninth but an rbi double by san diego's torrealba tied it. in the 12th padre's nick hundley drove in two and san diego won 6-4. >>> in cincinnati, the nationals' 22-year-old phenom stephen strasburg continued his winning way against the reds. the nats took the lead in the fifth on a two-run homer and held on to win 8-5. >>> when we return, another look at this morning's top stories. >>> then bloated city hall salar
. >>> in sports, an extra innings letdown for the white sox in seattle.ame went scoreless into the 11th inning when chicago's omar vizquel finally drove in a run to make it 1-0. bottom of the 11th, white sox closer bobby jenks gave up a two-run single for his second blown save in four days. seattle won 2-1. >>> the catch of the day at yankee stadium was by the yanks' ball boy. a leaping grab on a line drive foul hit by the angels' juan rivera. if the seventh after yanks' brett...
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i own a coffee company in seattle called coffee roasters. i hired into starbucks when there was eight stores. i am pretty well seeped in coffee. and i metal fonso not too long ago i honestly never seen a better place to do coffee. it's fabulous. and we're going to do that there. lots of it. commissioner joseph: great. thank you. >> all right. >> my name is stephan cosolotto and i have sat extensively with these guys at these meetings. one thing they couldn't understand is the outreach needed to be an owner/orppedetor on broadway. i totally -- owner/operator on broadway. i totally understand the concern because of some the prior behavior from previous operators. definitely these guys can attest the last seven months or maybe a little bit longer that this was a journey and a process. and i would say this too, although i'm friends with these guys, i think initially when they came in they were talking the talk, but they really, really learned how to walk the walk. and at this point in time, i think they really see what the color purple is on the
i own a coffee company in seattle called coffee roasters. i hired into starbucks when there was eight stores. i am pretty well seeped in coffee. and i metal fonso not too long ago i honestly never seen a better place to do coffee. it's fabulous. and we're going to do that there. lots of it. commissioner joseph: great. thank you. >> all right. >> my name is stephan cosolotto and i have sat extensively with these guys at these meetings. one thing they couldn't understand is the...
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my parents are actually here visiting from the seattle-tacoma area and it was so wonderful so -- to seeparents and my children together. and it just reminds me how important and valuable family is and the importance of our community. mayor newsom came down earlier this evening to welcome everyone and he asked me to share this proclamation for all of you here in our community. this is a proclamation from -- from the city and county of san francisco. in october 1587 the first recorded filipinos landed in what is now moro bay, california, on a spanish galyon. since that time, americans of filipino descent have played a significant role in the civic, cultural and economic development of our city and whereas october is fip floe history month, recognizing that they have enriched our cull are -- country and in san francisco contributed literature, art, and dance and in world war ii countless americans of filipino ancestry accepted the call to serve in the u.s. military and fought courageously in defense of their home lap and providing support to the united states of america in the name of cour
my parents are actually here visiting from the seattle-tacoma area and it was so wonderful so -- to seeparents and my children together. and it just reminds me how important and valuable family is and the importance of our community. mayor newsom came down earlier this evening to welcome everyone and he asked me to share this proclamation for all of you here in our community. this is a proclamation from -- from the city and county of san francisco. in october 1587 the first recorded filipinos...
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louis and boston and around portland and seattle for severe weather. weather.heck "meg whitman says she'll run california like her company..." seen this attack on meg whitman? who are these people? they're the unions and special interests behind jerry brown. they want jerry brown because, he won't "rock the boat," in sacramento. he'll be the same as he ever was. high taxes. lost jobs. big pensions for state employees. the special interests have chosen their governor. how about you? >>> it weighs more than 12,000 tons. the new tower being erect at the bay bridge. we'll explain the details. >> and after hours of debate, richmond city council reverses course and votes to allow only three medical marijuana dispensaries in the city. >> and dozens of people are evacuated from a wildfire in kern county. >> and this picture from downtown san francisco, the clouds are still around but not nearly as widespread as yesterday. more sunshine and slightly warmer today. i'll tell you how much warmer it's going to get through the weekend. >> there is the bridge tower going up a
louis and boston and around portland and seattle for severe weather. weather.heck "meg whitman says she'll run california like her company..." seen this attack on meg whitman? who are these people? they're the unions and special interests behind jerry brown. they want jerry brown because, he won't "rock the boat," in sacramento. he'll be the same as he ever was. high taxes. lost jobs. big pensions for state employees. the special interests have chosen their governor. how...
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precipitaciones en el sureste de texas y toda condición bastante seca se reporta sobre california, seattleegunta es tendrá un desarro o desarrollo, tiene un 50% de posibilidad que pase a ser sistema tropical de mayor intensidad tenemos que esperar 48 horas para ver tal desarrollo, sistema que también afecta la florida patrón del tiempo lluvioso hacia la planicie del sur, condiciones secas nuevamente california hacia las 4 esquinas denver colorado con 7 días con alta temperaturas al menos retrasos en aeropuerto no se reportan. nosotros aquí en nueva york rk 75°, pero para mañana volvemos asentir temperaturas en los 90° al igual que houston y denver casi alcanzando los cien grados. continuamos con más de primer impacto. >>> gracias jackie. >>> y astronautas harán historia por partida doble, los primeros gemelos en estar al mismo tiempo en el espacio en una misión de la nasa, comparten su a >periodista: ríen cia y la pasión por conocer el universo en febrero del próximo año ambos estarán en la estación espacial internacional casi 3 millones de estadounidenses están a la espera de la exención
precipitaciones en el sureste de texas y toda condición bastante seca se reporta sobre california, seattleegunta es tendrá un desarro o desarrollo, tiene un 50% de posibilidad que pase a ser sistema tropical de mayor intensidad tenemos que esperar 48 horas para ver tal desarrollo, sistema que también afecta la florida patrón del tiempo lluvioso hacia la planicie del sur, condiciones secas nuevamente california hacia las 4 esquinas denver colorado con 7 días con alta temperaturas al menos...
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the top for the most coffee con shum shun was seattle. >>> a giant step forward -- consumption was seattle>>> firefighters bracing for win right now as they battle two fires that burned dozens of homes in southern california. >>> and here is a live look outside. the sun came out in many parts today. bill martin will be up next as for what is ahead for the rest of the week. children are especially at risk for the h1n1 flu virus. so get yours vaccinated. learn more at flu.gov. together, we can all fight the flu. a fantastic opportunity to get 0% apr financing on every new 2010 cadilc model. like the cts sport sedan. the most acclaimed vehicle in its class and a "car and driver" 10 best, three years in a row. or the all new cadillac srx luxury crossover. and even the most acclaimed luxury suv ever, the cadillac escalade. summer brings out the best in all of us. on every new 2010 cadillac during cadillac's "summer's best" sales event, going on now at your cadillac dealer. ♪ >>> a federal judge has ordered a review of practice of dropping fire rehard tant. the -- retardant. the ruling states th
the top for the most coffee con shum shun was seattle. >>> a giant step forward -- consumption was seattle>>> firefighters bracing for win right now as they battle two fires that burned dozens of homes in southern california. >>> and here is a live look outside. the sun came out in many parts today. bill martin will be up next as for what is ahead for the rest of the week. children are especially at risk for the h1n1 flu virus. so get yours vaccinated. learn more at...
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. >> similar billboards line the freeways in dallas, houston, phoenix, new orleans, seattle and tucson. lori johnson, cbn news. >> take more faith to believe ther is no god than to believe we have is a wonderful great god. that is our report for this week. thanks for (speaking in international language) and he said unto them go ye into all of the world and preach the gospel preach the gospel ♪ every creature in the world. (applause)
. >> similar billboards line the freeways in dallas, houston, phoenix, new orleans, seattle and tucson. lori johnson, cbn news. >> take more faith to believe ther is no god than to believe we have is a wonderful great god. that is our report for this week. thanks for (speaking in international language) and he said unto them go ye into all of the world and preach the gospel preach the gospel ♪ every creature in the world. (applause)
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houston muy buenos en 78 grados y nuevamente mañana el sur de país con temperaturas en 84 garados y seattlela ley sb 1070 de arizona, otorÁ ndole al gobierno un mandato judicial basado en que las cuestiones migratorias son responsabilidad de la administracÓn federal.que tal les habla edna schmidtla gobernadora de arizona dice estar "decepcionada". fustiga a la administracÓn obama y anuncia que apelaÁ la decisÓn de la jueza boltonun documento del subdirector de inmigracion y aduanas revela que ese servicio solo tiene recursos para deportar a un cuatro por ciento de los inmigrantes detenidos.y el gobierno mexicano reacciona a la decisÓn de la jueza federal y dice que el bloqueo a la ley de arizona es el primer paso en la direccÓn correcta.Ás en despierta aÉrica tatales tendran empleados --miles de empleados estatales tendran que volver a tomar 3 dias libres al mes sin goce de sueldo.--asi lo decidio el gobernador, tras emitir una orden ejecutiva que estara vigente a partir de agosto. --los represantes sindicales calificaron la medida como un castigo de "arnold schwarzenegger" luego de que fra
houston muy buenos en 78 grados y nuevamente mañana el sur de país con temperaturas en 84 garados y seattlela ley sb 1070 de arizona, otorÁ ndole al gobierno un mandato judicial basado en que las cuestiones migratorias son responsabilidad de la administracÓn federal.que tal les habla edna schmidtla gobernadora de arizona dice estar "decepcionada". fustiga a la administracÓn obama y anuncia que apelaÁ la decisÓn de la jueza boltonun documento del subdirector de inmigracion y...
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. >> topping t list was seattle, washington, not surprising, with starbucks.tland, oregon was number two. >> denver came in fourth. they considere three things, availability of coffee, how much was spent on and total caffeine consumption from all sources. >> they found more than half of americans over 18 are daily coffee drinkers. a lot of teeth white they are is being used. that is a lot of energy. >> from hot coffee to cold cough a ee to ice coffee, what do you think? >> it's going to be a little peaking in international language) and he said unto them go yinto all of the world and prea the gospel preach the gospel ♪very creature in the world. (applause)
. >> topping t list was seattle, washington, not surprising, with starbucks.tland, oregon was number two. >> denver came in fourth. they considere three things, availability of coffee, how much was spent on and total caffeine consumption from all sources. >> they found more than half of americans over 18 are daily coffee drinkers. a lot of teeth white they are is being used. that is a lot of energy. >> from hot coffee to cold cough a ee to ice coffee, what do you think?...
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and fun for all children and people and therefore we sponsor projects throughout the country from seattle to michigan to chicago all over our country to make those people in our country and enjoy the summer just as you are trying to do here in the city of san francisco, so for all of the sacred heart schools doing projects around the country we thank you and sister davis and her family and the city of san francisco and to help you make this a wonderful summer. thank you. (applause). >> and thanks everyone for coming. >> god bless and we thank that you are here. will you do me a favor? will you touch someone next to you and let us bow for a moment of prepar prayer. we thank your this time and thank you for the friendship and this fellowship. bless this organization and everyone that is present. thank you for the children and what are you doing in our lives. in advance we say we are grateful and much obliged to what you're going to do in jesus name we pray. amen. come on let's give ourselves a hand of faith. (applause). >> sometimes in our lives, and especially as a preacher and a pastor i
and fun for all children and people and therefore we sponsor projects throughout the country from seattle to michigan to chicago all over our country to make those people in our country and enjoy the summer just as you are trying to do here in the city of san francisco, so for all of the sacred heart schools doing projects around the country we thank you and sister davis and her family and the city of san francisco and to help you make this a wonderful summer. thank you. (applause). >>...
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and from seattle, washington, cory, who is a college student there.here do you go to college, cory? >> university of washington. >> jimmy: all right. now, the first thing i'm going to need you to do is take off all your clothes. just kidding. this is kind of a combination of a scavenger hunt and "let's make a deal." i'm going to name an object, and your job is to find that object and be the first one to show it to us. all right? are you ready? okay. $100 to whomever comes back first with a pair of women's underwear. all right? go. now -- there we go. oh, look at that. wait a minute. cory -- are those women's underwear, cory? >> i think so. >> jimmy: hold them up so we can really see them. whose are those, cory? >> they would be my mom's. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: now that's -- all right. she must -- she must be delighted now. was this your first time going through your mother's underwear drawer? >> yes. >> jimmy: all right. let's do it again. $200 for a pair of men's underwear. all right. men's -- go leslie. go! leslie, again, is a fourth grade teacher,
and from seattle, washington, cory, who is a college student there.here do you go to college, cory? >> university of washington. >> jimmy: all right. now, the first thing i'm going to need you to do is take off all your clothes. just kidding. this is kind of a combination of a scavenger hunt and "let's make a deal." i'm going to name an object, and your job is to find that object and be the first one to show it to us. all right? are you ready? okay. $100 to whomever comes...
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and his lawyer, john henry brown, is joining us from seattle.w since he spent several hours with his new client. good morning, john. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> how would you describe this young man? what kind of a person is he? >> well, i was very -- yesterday i spent four hours with him and it's not my practice to spend that much time in a federal prison within anybody. he's fascinating. he's introspective. you know, he wanted me to give the message last week when i first met with him to the public that what he did was not romantic, that he shouldn't be a role model. he actually doesn't like the attention that he's getting. and i, of course, as his lawyer makes this case a lot harder, but it's just fascinating. >> hoi did -- >> go ahead. >> i'm sorry. how does he describe life on the run? you know, i think part of the myth is the idea that he was laughing his way, you know, across the country for two years. how does he describe it? >> yeah, i think that's totally -- i actually expected to see that and hear that, but he was panic
and his lawyer, john henry brown, is joining us from seattle.w since he spent several hours with his new client. good morning, john. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> how would you describe this young man? what kind of a person is he? >> well, i was very -- yesterday i spent four hours with him and it's not my practice to spend that much time in a federal prison within anybody. he's fascinating. he's introspective. you know, he wanted me to give the message last week...
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policing has involved considerably as we have learned from cities like new york, boston, chicago, seattle many others. and overed years we've addressed the problems that have been spot fires and of chronic distress throughout many of our districts and throughout the city to be able to require that the police department be more engaged. not that they're not and not that community policing v.i.a. a slice of that feature being foot patrols isn't happening but i believe it's time that the voters also have an opportunity to weigh in as to how important the strategy is. and i know that the police department realizes it's an important strategy but as debate often has revealed, this is a strategy that is quote, unquote, seen as a luxury in the police department's menu of how to deploy forces and it's often a reactive strategy. i believe there have been perfect candidates where we have foot patrols. it's something i've been talking about since coming into elected office and it's highly irregular and highly inconsistent. that would stem a lot of concerns and distress and aggravation people were fee
policing has involved considerably as we have learned from cities like new york, boston, chicago, seattle many others. and overed years we've addressed the problems that have been spot fires and of chronic distress throughout many of our districts and throughout the city to be able to require that the police department be more engaged. not that they're not and not that community policing v.i.a. a slice of that feature being foot patrols isn't happening but i believe it's time that the voters...
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. >> topping the list was seattle, washington, not surprising, with starbucks., oregon was number two. >> denver came in fourth. they considered three things, availability of coffee, how much was spent on and total caffeine consumption from all sources. >> they found more than half of americans over 18 are daily coffee drinkers. a lot of teeth white they are is being used. that is a lot of energy. >> from hot coffee to cold cough a ee to ice coffee, what do you think? >> it's going to be a little >> it's going to be a little warmer in the i spend three hours on my homework -- or at least that's what my mom thinks. with high speed internet from at&t, i get my homework done fast, leaving me time to download movies and music and chat witmy friends mo how's your studying? it's coming along! [ female announcer ] work faster, play more with our fastest internet speed ever... with speeds of up to 24 megs. or call now to get great deals on other high speed plans starting at $19.95 a month. please, i know what he's up to. high speed internet from at&t is so fast, that we
. >> topping the list was seattle, washington, not surprising, with starbucks., oregon was number two. >> denver came in fourth. they considered three things, availability of coffee, how much was spent on and total caffeine consumption from all sources. >> they found more than half of americans over 18 are daily coffee drinkers. a lot of teeth white they are is being used. that is a lot of energy. >> from hot coffee to cold cough a ee to ice coffee, what do you think?...
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site seems the only thing you can do, is sort of what seattle is talking about metropolitan wise. so peter, i don't know how your plan is a reasonable plan of that. so i'm wondering - and then you're saying,oh, by the way you have to move as fast as possible but don't build,dams, until you do analysis. i'm not sure how it fits together more coherently. i wonder if you could be more precise on what you tell people to do. >> on the,pa leoclimate, part, one thing to remember is the precipitation we're expecting is only suddenly changing in the climate model and one of the big concerns is an observation that brad mentioned, the 20th century when you look at what happened over several centuries - assumeg the proxy indicators are accurate and they are probably close - is that we developed infor structure and so forth during a period when the delivery was maybe higher than the long-term average. there's a real need to understand what the natural system is or sort of has the capacity to do and the way to do that is not just from the instrumental record. it's too short. unfortunately, the
site seems the only thing you can do, is sort of what seattle is talking about metropolitan wise. so peter, i don't know how your plan is a reasonable plan of that. so i'm wondering - and then you're saying,oh, by the way you have to move as fast as possible but don't build,dams, until you do analysis. i'm not sure how it fits together more coherently. i wonder if you could be more precise on what you tell people to do. >> on the,pa leoclimate, part, one thing to remember is the...
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portland, maine; boston and seattle round out the top 5. >>> charles rangel says he looks forward to fighting the ethics charges against him. the files against the 80-year- old congressman from new york have not been session tied yesterday but they reportedly include allegations of accepting improper gifts, failure to report assets possible conflict of tr. an 8-member house panel will make the allegations public next friday. >>> we want to go back over to sal. last time you were talking about an accident near the venetia bridge? >> that's right. i circled it on the bridge if i can. right here on marine vision tax south of the bridge. the traffic is actually not going to be affected so much because it's light there. we move over to the right. we just want to move the map over to the right. you can see that antioch traffic is a little bit lighter than unusual. north bound, traffic -- we are going to the sonole grave. this eggs north bound 280 getting up to highway 17 that traffic moves well. 648. here is mark. >> good morning to you, sal. we are taking another look outside with all the
portland, maine; boston and seattle round out the top 5. >>> charles rangel says he looks forward to fighting the ethics charges against him. the files against the 80-year- old congressman from new york have not been session tied yesterday but they reportedly include allegations of accepting improper gifts, failure to report assets possible conflict of tr. an 8-member house panel will make the allegations public next friday. >>> we want to go back over to sal. last time you...
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. >> jean, you want to - i mean,maurine, i believe seattle wants to talk about that. >> chuck ought to handle that one. >> i really do. >> go for it. how about the second part of that question. the terrorist. >> an issue of homeland security we've all had to do assessments and make improvements so almost - i can't think of a major water utility that's been dealing with this. our approach has been one using technology primarily and they've invested heavily for us to use? lieu of some of the initial reproaches but i think the water industry as a whole has been a remarkable job and there's also and,isac, program where we can share with each other. >> you painted a great picture of a diversified important foal quo is that in part o protect against events as well. >> more related to high ydraulic issue but i think the effort the water agencies have made since 1911 have been markable and i think we're one of the more secure utilities or areas as a result. obviously there's the converging but it does not mean just because you have a concern or risk you don't move ahead. you analyze the risk a
. >> jean, you want to - i mean,maurine, i believe seattle wants to talk about that. >> chuck ought to handle that one. >> i really do. >> go for it. how about the second part of that question. the terrorist. >> an issue of homeland security we've all had to do assessments and make improvements so almost - i can't think of a major water utility that's been dealing with this. our approach has been one using technology primarily and they've invested heavily for us to...
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seattle help. 81 in portland, also in the great lakes, chicago 81 and 88 in boston and 87 in new yorkason why we're seeing the cooling trend in new england, flight arrivals at j.f.k. and laguardia and newark. justice check out flight tracker at www.abc7.com and specific details what flights are affected. >>> 4:47. a herd of deer and four-legged creature's eating habits have divided people. they face the question how far should they go to protect their landscaping? lisa amin gulezian explains. >> this is a all chewed up. this has all been chewed up. the buds have been removed. >> michael has lived in the saratoga oak neighborhood for 20 years. he doesn't like what is happening. >> this is the result of deer. >> dozens of deer are eating their way through this development. a large fence keeps some deer out of the neighborhood but it doesn't surround all 12 acres of the subdivision. >> many homeowners have taken matters into their own hands and put up private fences. some are even electric while others have gone have bought cat urine to sprinkle on their plants to protect them. >> making
seattle help. 81 in portland, also in the great lakes, chicago 81 and 88 in boston and 87 in new yorkason why we're seeing the cooling trend in new england, flight arrivals at j.f.k. and laguardia and newark. justice check out flight tracker at www.abc7.com and specific details what flights are affected. >>> 4:47. a herd of deer and four-legged creature's eating habits have divided people. they face the question how far should they go to protect their landscaping? lisa amin gulezian...
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albuquerque and new mexico, followedly atlanta and seattle. when they contacted pita for a recount they responded that seven places are still pretty good. >> atlanta, number four? who makes these up. >>> we'll be right back with sarah palin's twitter blunder. >>> before we go to break here's a like at your seven-day forecast. >>> how is sarah palin like william shakespeare? she says it's because they both invent words. the problem is, shakespeare didn't use twitter. she treated to peaceful muslims her request that he -- under ground zero, new york city. there's no such word as "refudiate." but she stands by that use, but it must have been repudiate. she said she likes to make up words, too. >> that's all part of her str aechlt . >> that's for us. see you again at 6:00. advantage topical solution treats dogs... ( barking ) but destroys fleas. so y a veouskr teri rinafo anr advante, the flea specialist for gentle, but effective, flea control.
albuquerque and new mexico, followedly atlanta and seattle. when they contacted pita for a recount they responded that seven places are still pretty good. >> atlanta, number four? who makes these up. >>> we'll be right back with sarah palin's twitter blunder. >>> before we go to break here's a like at your seven-day forecast. >>> how is sarah palin like william shakespeare? she says it's because they both invent words. the problem is, shakespeare didn't use...
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i own a coffee company in seattle called coffee roasters. i hired into starbucks when there was eight stores. i am pretty well seeped in coffee. and i metal fonso not too long ago i honestly never seen a better place to do coffee. it's fabulous. and we're going to do that
i own a coffee company in seattle called coffee roasters. i hired into starbucks when there was eight stores. i am pretty well seeped in coffee. and i metal fonso not too long ago i honestly never seen a better place to do coffee. it's fabulous. and we're going to do that
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seattle, a beautiful day with you. same with portland, warm in her for a pop-up thunderstorm most of the day will be dry. san jose, cool and dry with clouds lingering in the morning. only hot spot pasco washington 99. we'll talk about that wednesday forecast when i come back a little later. >> thank you. >>> well, surprising home sales, optimism from fedex, and an airline gets spanked for bumping. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. >>> plus, is any movie star worth $20 million a film? apparently the hollywood answer is an enthusiastic yes. >>> mauer powers the twins, and matt garza tosses a gem for the rays. you're watching "early today." garzback to "early today." t i'm lynn berry, and here are some of your top headlines this morning. on the anniversary of cuba's revolution, fidel castro made the latest in what's become a not-so-rare string of public appearances. the former leader laid a wreath at a monument to cuban revolutionary jose marte, but did not attend the country's main celebration mar
seattle, a beautiful day with you. same with portland, warm in her for a pop-up thunderstorm most of the day will be dry. san jose, cool and dry with clouds lingering in the morning. only hot spot pasco washington 99. we'll talk about that wednesday forecast when i come back a little later. >> thank you. >>> well, surprising home sales, optimism from fedex, and an airline gets spanked for bumping. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. >>> plus, is any...
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>> hi i'm with king county many the seattle area. we're not a water supplier but a regional government that has a lot of responsibilities with flood management and regional waist water system and we do a lot of other things we expect to be a lot of changes due to climate change we have to anticipate. speaking on your comment about a template, the county council has asked us to develop an annual climate plan the first of which is news today and it maybe delayed by a week or two is what i've heard. what we've done, is put together an intraservice group to identify impact to all the different activities we engage in that range across planning, permitting, regulatory, as well as something like requiring access like purchasing hybrid buses and transportations systems. i think this is an annual report and we're going to be imposing performance measures on ourselves and reporting how much progress we're making, and it will, i think result in dialogue because we'll have to talk to state agencies on the issues chuck talked about, where we're
>> hi i'm with king county many the seattle area. we're not a water supplier but a regional government that has a lot of responsibilities with flood management and regional waist water system and we do a lot of other things we expect to be a lot of changes due to climate change we have to anticipate. speaking on your comment about a template, the county council has asked us to develop an annual climate plan the first of which is news today and it maybe delayed by a week or two is what...
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nearly 90 here in the big apple. 94 in atlanta. 91 in miami. 80s from seattle down to sacramento. phoenix hits 106. salt lake city 99, boise, 94. >>> ahead on this monday morning, a truly unbelievable medical mix-up. a young woman thought to have died in a car crash is identified among survivors from a family planning a funeral. >>> and a weekend fireworks show goes horribly wrong. we'll be right back. good morning! ♪ [ female announcer ] nutri-grain -- one good decision... ♪ ...can lead to another. ♪ ♪ ...made with real fruit and now with more of the whole grains your body needs. nutri-grain can help you eat better all day. nutri-grain can help you discover customers are getting 5% cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to get more. it pays to discover. for the first time, discover exotic fragrances... and rich moisture from aveeno, the naturals brand dermatologists trust most. introducing positively nourishing moisturizers. with active naturals, they're clinically tested... to lock in moisture for 24 hours. now, skin can be
nearly 90 here in the big apple. 94 in atlanta. 91 in miami. 80s from seattle down to sacramento. phoenix hits 106. salt lake city 99, boise, 94. >>> ahead on this monday morning, a truly unbelievable medical mix-up. a young woman thought to have died in a car crash is identified among survivors from a family planning a funeral. >>> and a weekend fireworks show goes horribly wrong. we'll be right back. good morning! ♪ [ female announcer ] nutri-grain -- one good decision......
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boston and seattle have been very embracing and welcoming o the trends and chicago's taking a look att because they have some health laws that are sort of at odds with what the street carts are all about. portland, oregon which had a long, long history ostreet carts and now with the trucks isn't exactly as big as new york is, but they have a really big and ready and willing audience to partake of what all ous are doing and it's not just limited to tweets. that's what's so interesting about it. there are trucks where there's lots of cooking going on. we have a fried chicken truck in l.a. and a fishy truck in l.a. it's all across the board. >> love that. >> how do you want to grow this business? do you have plans to apply for a loan to get bigger or perhaps build a brick and mortar restaurant? what's the next step? >> a bit oall that. no question we would like to have a brick and mortar restaurant. now i'm starting to see trends in where carts may be more at van takous than trucks. trucks have their own bagable, so to speak and carts strategically placed would be the next step. >> such
boston and seattle have been very embracing and welcoming o the trends and chicago's taking a look att because they have some health laws that are sort of at odds with what the street carts are all about. portland, oregon which had a long, long history ostreet carts and now with the trucks isn't exactly as big as new york is, but they have a really big and ready and willing audience to partake of what all ous are doing and it's not just limited to tweets. that's what's so interesting about it....
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those that do it, seattle shoots to have an 18-year pruning cycle for its trees in its parks. it really operates on a 40-year cycle. that is the only solid example of knowledge about that. what would it take to reduce the pruning cycle? one of the opportunities will be to increase the number of staff who are uprooting trees at the current 1253 per year use. that would require significant additions in urban forestry staff, which i don't think are going to occur, but i simply want to point out to you the current conditions or situations that put the unit and the department are operating under. we would hope, i suppose, that bond money that this project is part of or rendered the assessments that will follow will be able to take care of some of that remedial work. the urban forestry program operates on a 100% reactive, requested driven mode. whether the requests come from the public through 311 or generated by the staff or department three of t.m.a. system. there is a backlog of about 450 requests which have not been gotten to yet, because the department unit operates on an emerg
those that do it, seattle shoots to have an 18-year pruning cycle for its trees in its parks. it really operates on a 40-year cycle. that is the only solid example of knowledge about that. what would it take to reduce the pruning cycle? one of the opportunities will be to increase the number of staff who are uprooting trees at the current 1253 per year use. that would require significant additions in urban forestry staff, which i don't think are going to occur, but i simply want to point out to...
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check out the country, seattle and portland in the low 80s.to push severe weather into ohio river valley and up to england. expect delays around chicago, detroit and even boston and new york this afternoon. when those develop our flight tracker will have them at www.abc7.com. >>> developing news, real tragedy a pakistani official has announced all 152 passengers on board a jet that crashed near the capital have died. the plane was flying to islamabad and was trying to land. they searched the forest and hills and was able to find any one alive. that prompted reports that a handful survived. the plane was operated by private carrier, air blu based out of karachi. >> today is hundredth day after the deep water horizon explosion. bob dudley is laying out a plan of attack to kill the well that has spilled 180 million barrels of oil into the gulf since the explosion. he hopes to have that done mountain next few weeks and then focus on cleanup efforts. much of that oil is so deep underwater researchers say the effect of the massive spill on marine li
check out the country, seattle and portland in the low 80s.to push severe weather into ohio river valley and up to england. expect delays around chicago, detroit and even boston and new york this afternoon. when those develop our flight tracker will have them at www.abc7.com. >>> developing news, real tragedy a pakistani official has announced all 152 passengers on board a jet that crashed near the capital have died. the plane was flying to islamabad and was trying to land. they...
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how about that, seattle, that's more like it, 86 degrees after an incredibly cool start to the summer you're trying to make up for it a little bit. this morning, showers, monsoonal moisture funneled all the way up through nevada this morning. the coastal clouds still very stubborn along the coast. this weather pattern shouldn't change this week. if you live anywhere typically affected by the marine layer in the morning, it's that type of week. late in the afternoon, you get some sun, morning and nights cloudy. as far as the forecast goes, cool in san francisco, 69, l.a. 77 with that afternoon sun, hot in vegas, beautiful in the pacific northwest. that's a look at up to the state of washington. it will be a warm and beautiful sunny day. we'll chat about that tuesday forecast coming up. >> sounds good, bill. thanks. >>> well, geithner says cut the tax cuts. chavez threatens no more oil. and nuns hoping to hit the top of the charts. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. >>> plus she's the woman who has it all except she can't seem to beat leonardo dicaprio at the box
how about that, seattle, that's more like it, 86 degrees after an incredibly cool start to the summer you're trying to make up for it a little bit. this morning, showers, monsoonal moisture funneled all the way up through nevada this morning. the coastal clouds still very stubborn along the coast. this weather pattern shouldn't change this week. if you live anywhere typically affected by the marine layer in the morning, it's that type of week. late in the afternoon, you get some sun, morning...
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check out the warmth midwest, mid-80s in seattle and near hundred in salt lake city. any around d.c. and new york. flight arrival delays so far so good. only threat of organized severe weather is in north dakota and minnesota. scattered thunderstorms around the south east and we'll have any flight delays at www.abc7.com. >>> salt lake city fire investigators are trying to determine what caused fire fireworks to malfunction and shoot into the crowd. the mishap injured ten people at a pioneer days celebration. >> the injuries are mostly minor burns and bruises. authorities say some of the fireworks shot horizontally. they had to stop the show before it reached the grand finale. >> and a family preparing to bury a daughter is instead at the hospital bedside this morning. 19-year-old girl was one of four involved in a single car accident a week ago. two of the girls died and third was critically injured and badly disfigured. they miss identified one of the girls. investigators realized their mistake after using dental records to identify the girl and realize highway abby
check out the warmth midwest, mid-80s in seattle and near hundred in salt lake city. any around d.c. and new york. flight arrival delays so far so good. only threat of organized severe weather is in north dakota and minnesota. scattered thunderstorms around the south east and we'll have any flight delays at www.abc7.com. >>> salt lake city fire investigators are trying to determine what caused fire fireworks to malfunction and shoot into the crowd. the mishap injured ten people at a...
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we may see drizzle in areas of seattle. right now call for 74, 80 in portland, 91 in medford. warm in vegas, 103. not as hot as you were earlier this week. we're still very cool right along the coastal areas. we're going to be unseasonably cool. same outlook as everyone on the coast. in the morning, clouds, you burn them off, a little sun late in the day. that's why you're only going to heat up to 64. nice day in roseburg, 85 and 70. i really kind of ruined it veronica by telling everyone not much is going to change but i'm still obligated to give the friday forecast. >> what is it? nothing to see here, keep moving along. >> thanks, bill. >>> techs wobble, citigroup pays up, and more recalls from toyota. your early morning business headlines are straight ahead. >>> plus, steve carell is funny, there is no question about it, but is his latest film too mean? >> the phillies get their man, the padres trade for an mvp, and beware of the claw. you're watching "early today." >>> well, good morning to you and welcome back to "early today." i'm veronica de la cruz. and here are some o
we may see drizzle in areas of seattle. right now call for 74, 80 in portland, 91 in medford. warm in vegas, 103. not as hot as you were earlier this week. we're still very cool right along the coastal areas. we're going to be unseasonably cool. same outlook as everyone on the coast. in the morning, clouds, you burn them off, a little sun late in the day. that's why you're only going to heat up to 64. nice day in roseburg, 85 and 70. i really kind of ruined it veronica by telling everyone not...
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this is video of colton harris-moore getting off the plane at the seattle tacoma international airporthe's accused of a series of crimes including stealing boats and planes and has one federal charge in seattle. the 19-year-old is being held at a federal detainion facility there. >>> a tour cyst recovering after being attacked by a bison in yellowstone national park. kathy hayes and a friend brp a mile from old faithful when they spotted this bison in the parking lot. they decided to get a closer look, which was probably not a good decision. she had the camera rolling. was actually saying or joking about how dangerous it was. there's her friend. they got about 30 feet from the buffalo when it charged. ramming hayes in her left thigh. she decided to take off. she's running for the car but didn't make it. she land on her right leg which is now badly bruised. >> i was waiting for him to stomp my head because i could hear his breathing and his toes were right by my head. i thought this is how i'm going to go out. >> the buffalo took off just about as fast as he came. her husband tried to h
this is video of colton harris-moore getting off the plane at the seattle tacoma international airporthe's accused of a series of crimes including stealing boats and planes and has one federal charge in seattle. the 19-year-old is being held at a federal detainion facility there. >>> a tour cyst recovering after being attacked by a bison in yellowstone national park. kathy hayes and a friend brp a mile from old faithful when they spotted this bison in the parking lot. they decided to...
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only areas of exception is the pacific northwest, yesterday cool in seattle at 78, san francisco 71. right along the coast, very cool. the weather pattern is changing in the days ahead. the eastern half will cool off a little bit while the heat will continue to build in the four-corners region, the rockies and interior valleys. yesterday was only 81 even in sacramento but 104 in vegas. salt lake city was hot along with boise. even medford got into the act with a high of 97. here is how the weather pattern looks today. there's a general flow, everything sliding to the north still. we're watching the trough off the coast, which will keep the coastal clouds in those areas. in the mornings will be the worst and the afternoon will break out a bit of sunshine. a few sprinkles and showers at the high elevations in utah and nevada. overall a pretty dry forecast, looks a lot like yesterday. continue with those coastal clouds, keeping you and san francisco at 69. l.a. try to get you more sunshine at 77. medford is going to be warm and of course we'll be above 100 in the desert. that's a quick
only areas of exception is the pacific northwest, yesterday cool in seattle at 78, san francisco 71. right along the coast, very cool. the weather pattern is changing in the days ahead. the eastern half will cool off a little bit while the heat will continue to build in the four-corners region, the rockies and interior valleys. yesterday was only 81 even in sacramento but 104 in vegas. salt lake city was hot along with boise. even medford got into the act with a high of 97. here is how the...
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and 70 in seattle. kansas city climbs to 94. and detroit, 84. a high of 91 here in new york. 89 in boston. and 93 in atlanta. >>> still ahead, paying the price. how much the sex scandal has cost tiger woods in those lucrative endorsements. >>> and it's been a summer of stingrays and sharks. now, the biggest species of jellyfish comes ashore. >>> and the daring rescue, just seconds before a car bursts into flames. [ school bell rings ] [ female announcer ] kids who don't eat breakfast may not be getting the nutrition they need to keep their bodies strong. a nutritious start to the day is essential. that's why carnation instant breakfast essentials supplies the nutrients of a balanced breakfast. so kids get the protein and calcium they need to help build strong muscles and healthy bones. ♪ carnation instant breakfast essentials. good nutrition from the start. aveeno hair shines in real life. new aveeno nourish plus shine with active naturals wheat smooths damaged cuticles for 75% more shine in one use. real shine, for real life. yours. [ female an
and 70 in seattle. kansas city climbs to 94. and detroit, 84. a high of 91 here in new york. 89 in boston. and 93 in atlanta. >>> still ahead, paying the price. how much the sex scandal has cost tiger woods in those lucrative endorsements. >>> and it's been a summer of stingrays and sharks. now, the biggest species of jellyfish comes ashore. >>> and the daring rescue, just seconds before a car bursts into flames. [ school bell rings ] [ female announcer ] kids who...
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so i want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to come here from seattle, los angeles, new york, all across the country, interestingly those coastal cities, appropriately those coastal cities that are taking the time to be here, and begin the process not only of identifying the problem today and working through the consensus again, sort of sharing the same set of facts which continues to dominate the dialogue, but then begin the process of resolving what we do about this reality tomorrow. that being said, in san francisco i'm very proud to be a resident of a city, fifth generation city, of a city that has always been a city of dreamers and doers, a city of entrepreneurs, a city that doesn't just identify these larger global problems but begins to address strategies to solve them. indeed, san francisco is very proud of its leadership to begin the process of mitigation so that we don't have it adopt and as some have said suffer the consequences of global climate change. more mitigation, less adaption, less suffering. this city decided a number of years ago after the unit
so i want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to come here from seattle, los angeles, new york, all across the country, interestingly those coastal cities, appropriately those coastal cities that are taking the time to be here, and begin the process not only of identifying the problem today and working through the consensus again, sort of sharing the same set of facts which continues to dominate the dialogue, but then begin the process of resolving what we do about this...