. >> here is kathleen sebelius about to testify at a senate appropriations committee on the annual budget. the white house has requested a net $79 billion for 2010. -- 807 $9 billion for 2010. region $879 billion dollars for 2010. job in the cabinet but also think the best job in the cabinet. your response please include comprehensive health reform, preparing for a possible pandemic influenza, addressing entitlements but also by medical research, substance abuse, drug safety and quite a few others. i certainly look forward to working with you cooperative lee in any way that i can. this hearing will focus on your discretionary budget but i would just like to mention some, what we are doing on comprehensive health reform. i know that you feel very strongly that prevention and public health must be at the heart of any serious reform in healthcare system and i commend you for your work in that area. i also believe in reform to the healthcare system must address the injustice of people with severe disabilities for being forced to spend their lives a nursing homes because we are not provided an

chairman and as a fellow kansan i want to agreed it would welcome for secretary sebelius. congratulations on your confirmation. i know after getting back to washington and seeing the traffic you had the same fault i have, we are not in kansas anymore. as the secretary of health and human services you have the responsibility to ensure the nation's health care and social services are in an excellent and indeed improve. like a physician your philosophy should be first do no harm. this is often hard for the government. from a doubling and access and choice that government does in fact to harm. i'm interested hearing how he will balance the desire here to improve access to health care and human services while not interfering in the quality of the systems themselves. one of the biggest concerns with government interference in health care delivery systems that i have is that, and i assure you have health care reform will be a large part of the discussion today, is that we will limit the innovation of choice and access to this process we are going to try to involve more government

the new hhs secretary, kathleen sebelius has and op-ed there, too. she writes that we need reform that will improve the quality of care and give doctors the best research to help them make the most effective decisions, not just the most costly. we need to reform the eliminate the barriers. we must insure americans are not denied coverage because of pre- existing conditions, and we must provide insurance security for americans who lose or want to switch jobs. that is secretary kathleen sebelius writing in "the hale" newspaper this morning. caller: please bear with me. on the revenue side -- it is a well-known fact as i have been cancelled by my accountant and people of my brokerage firm, that i should not report my profits and options since options are never reported to the government. that is a trillion-dollar industry. it is voted down every time by a voice in congress. that tells you how deep the corruption goes. secondly, we should be taxing oil. and since when does being a doctor make you a millionaire? they buy into other mri facilities and repe

i think secretary sebelius may be here. we were together at a previous event and i have a little more to say about that in a minute. but i loved getting involved in the d.l.c. for one thing, i was just tired of getting beat. and i'm old enough now to know what it was like to get beat over and over and over again. essentially, here is what happened to us. national elections and the standing of national political parties are determined by they things. the political culture. the conditions at election time. and the quality of the candidates. for much of the 20th century the political culture of america kept us coming together and looking for common sense solutions because both parties had about a w40% base and there were 20% that can go either way and that gave pressure for people to trustruggle to find s way to come together. it also meant that even if you ran a bank robbery you would get 40% for president. we only departed that significantly once when president roosevelt won 63% in 1936. 1968 was one of the most difficult ye

. >> i know you are also working with secretary sebelius on the health care fraud prevention as we are going into the summer, focusing on health care there's still a significant problem with health care fraud. estimates can be 3% to 10% of the total amount of spending amounting of billions of dollars. i saw cases myself as a prosecutor of identity theft in hospital settings and things like that. i think it will be very important as we move into this health care debate that the work that you do, you're doing with this new focus is understood. you want to talk a little about that. >> i would agree with that. if you look at the statistics for last year it was about $1.2 billion that was recovered as a result of the fraud found in the health care system. that is why secretary sebelius and i have made this a priority and why we have announce add joint effort to look at these issues. in two additional cities in addition to what we are doing more generally. that's a lot of money. $1.2 billion in actual money received by the federal government as a result of its enforcement efforts. we plan to

that is why secretary sebelius and i have made this a priority. and it is why we have announced a joint effort to look at these issues in two additional cities in addition to what we're doing more generally. i mean, that's a lot of money when you think about $1.2 billion in actual money received by the federal government as a result of its enforcement efforts. we plan to keep those efforts as strong as they are. as robust as they are. >> and one of the things that came out in the fbi's financial crimes report for 2007 was that they're actually seeing some cases and i care about this because i come from a state where we value high quality healthcare. we haven't had a lot of issues with this but there have been recent healthcare fraud cases which included medical professionals risking patient harm with unnecessary surgeries and things like that. what are you doing to combat this particular kind of fraud? >> i mean, that's a very good point. there's not only an economic consequence to some of the fraud that we see. there are healthcare outcomes that

. >> i know you are also work wg secretary sebelius on the health care question, too, as we're going into the summer focusing on health care. there is still significant problems with health care fraud. estimates are amounting to billions of dollars. i saw cases myself as a prosecutor of identity theft in hospital settings and things like that. i think it would be very important as we moved into this health care debate that the work that you do with this new focus is understood. do you want to talk a little about that? >> i would totally agree with that. if you look at the statistics from last year, i think it was about $1.2 bill recovered as a result of the fraud found in the health care stifment that's why -- health care system. that is why secretary sebelius and i have made a joint effort to look at these issues in addition into what we're doing more generally. i mean, that's a lot of money. when you think about $1.2 billion. it is enforcement efforts that are needed, and we plan to keep those efforts as robust as they are. >> one thing that came out -- i care about this a lot beca

we need to be derivative, careful, thoughtful and i agree with the secretary -- secretary sebelius, we need to proceed with great care and make sure that we carefully craft will we have in front of us. i'm willing to work with you to do that, but i do think it will take time. thank you for your indulgence. >> thank you very much senator and your point about how the energy committee proceeded with is certainly our intention here. we want to deal with this area by area, a title by title rather than just opening this up in a way that will be impossible given the magnitude of the issues to prepare properly for discussion and debate about those matters and you never knew which was the book next item up so we can confine ourselves with advance notice and i've asked with senator and state because obviously we did leave out the committee market may not all, i did not understand this and i have been on this committee for a long time but having this gavel the last couple of weeks that the rules of our committee, this committee are different than the finance rules committees. the rules of this co

kathleen sebelius and i have launched a new effort that will increase a sustained focus. we recognize that health care fraud has its debilitating impact, including those in long- term care facilities. coordinated activities of our attorneys and agents to address the abuse, neglect, and financial complications, bringing to bear the full weight of our department by making sure that these crimes are prevented and prosecuted. the american recovery and reinvestment act would grant funding, being used for tribal law enforcement efforts, including new police officers to combat violence against women and children. it will help to reinvigorate, which is vital to keeping our communities strong. members of the committee, i want to thank you again for this opportunity to address this priority. i will be pleased to answer questions might have. thank you. >> thank you. i understand that a career attorney in the department of civil-rights division made the final decision regarding the black panther issue. an employee from the bush and british alicia -- the bush administration. i wanted

. >> coming up, kathleen sebelius testifies at a hearing about her agency's budget. then "washington journal," with your phone calls. and later, gavel to gavel coverage of teh u.he u.s. house.

for president clinton who changed our party and made democrats sprout, to secretary sebelius, and all of the other former dlc shares, the vice chair tom and a dozen others are here from the senate. and many house members and state and local fichu -- and officials, and think all of you from far and near who have come here tonight. this is an amazing crowd. all these years, al from mid name for himself as one of the all-time great trouble makers. it will ruin his reputation forever when the world finds out he has as many friends. tonight, it saddens me to tell my favorite joke one last time i was born with the ultimate washington curse. i look like alfred, and i think like our from -- al from. it could be worse, it could be the other way around. [laughter] the truth is, thinking life -- like al from is the privilege of a lifetime. the world is a vastly better place, because over the years, so many democrats in this room and in this town have come to have like -- and have come to think like al from. [applause] we take for granted now, but we should not forget how well -- how he got start

kathleen sebelius spoke earlier today on "good morning america" says that there's no choice but to revamp health care because the costs are crushing businesses and families. another says that it will increase costs and reduced losses in the senate health committee continues its mark up of health care legislation. live coverage on c-span3. the world bank has updated its forecast for the year. it says the world economy will shrink nearly 3%, almost double the previous estimate. stock futures are down this morning. the senate is close to passing a bill that would mandate its expenses reduced expenses and fund-raising be posted on line, a few weeks after nancy pelosi mandated house expense reports be digitally published. a democrat from missouri says there's a decent chance it may happen soon, forcing senators to put all their office expenses including staff salaries on line. even without remarks economic stimulus money will go to members of congress who oversee funding for the army corps of engineers. more than $2 billion of that stimulus money is going to those members' home districts. fina

. >> sebelius and any element of engagement, the nuclear issue direct bilateral relation -- to allow these -- iranian protesters would to be able to express their views, to be able to assemble peacefully. these are all very strong statements. >> on the broad level and the trend with iran, the approach toward the nuclear issue on the block level these things are undisturbed by the defense the last few days, correct? >> as i said before right now we are not really focused on the bilateral relationship so much. what we are focused on is what is going on inside iran >> -- what appears to be among the members of the bureaucracy inside iran the? >> i think we are monitoring of these situations very closely. we are monitoring how the iranians people are being treated by their own government. we are monitoring the way the situation is unfolding. i will leave it at that. >> you talked about the need to coordinate approaches with allies. how have you done that so far? we haven't seen joint statements with the u.s.. how exactly are you correlating -- >> as i said the secretary has called on her

kathleen sebelius will testify about her department's budget. that is live at about 2:30 p.m.stern on c-span3. >> elizabeth warren is recognized for as much time as she may consume. >> thank you, chairwoman maloney, representatives. i appreciate the invitation to be here today on behalf of the congressional oversight panel and to be as helpful to you as i can. i should start by saying i am not scripted. since i do not have a preapproved script, you should take my comments as my comments alone and not necessarily reflecting those of the panel. i will do my best to regret -- to represent their reports, but otherwise, you are hearing from me. what is the congressional oversight panel? we are the smallest of the oversight unit here, particularly compared with the special inspector general. what we try to do is a fact based analysis of the end -- of the operations under the toxic acid relief program andy -- the toxic asset relief program. ob;we return to the same things that we started with are very first report about transparency, accountability, and clarity throughout the system.

written now and the way the secretary of health and human services, a good friend of mine, kathleen sebelius has stated it, cer is going to be used -- its main purpose is going to be cost. if we do that, mr. chairman, we're headed for trouble. because that decision between you and your doctor will be taken away. i'm offering several amendments, mr. chairman, which i hope my colleagues will consider seriously and also hopefully accept. in an attempt to improve upon this bill. they'll include provisions to protect patient choice. the patient-doctor relationship. ensure that rural and low-volume hospitals are not disadvantaged by new regulations for hospitals. and secure equal footing for rural and urban health care workforce enhancement programs. i hope that these -- what i call commonsense amendments can find some bipartisan support. it goes without saying that this bill will affect every single american for generations to come. it should be better considered, it seems to me. it should even be bipartisan. and it must do better than this in improving health care access for the uninsured. mr. c

i think secretary sebelius may be here. we were together at a previous event, and i'll have more to say about that in a minute. i loved getting involved with the dlc. for one thing, i was tired of getting beat. i am old enough now to remember what it was like to get beat over and over and over again. essentially, here is what happens to us. national elections and the standing of national political parties are determined by three things. the political culture, the conditions at election time, and the quality of the candidates. for much of the 20th-century, the political culture of america kept us coming together and looking for common sense solutions, because both parties at about a 40% base, and 20% that can go either way. it gave great pressure to find some way to come together. it also meant that even if you ran a bank robber, you would have 40% for the president. president roosevelt won 63% in 1936. 1968 was one of the most difficult years in american history, certainly in modern history. it was dramatic and 90 -- in a l

. >> thank you secretary sebelius. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you mr. chairman. i join my colleagues in welcoming you. madam secretary many of us were shocked and saddened by the horrific murder of dr. george tiller over the weekend in four years the bush administration went out of its way to protect doctors from being forced to provide services they found objectionable, yet did nothing to shield physicians providing legal and life protecting medical care to women from ongoing harassment, threats and violence. this is unconscionable and must change in my judgment. the federal government must send the gibbet-- that acts of violence will not be tolerated. i was pleased to learn that attorney general holder has indicated that the u.s. marshal service will begin protecting certain abortion clinics and doctors, and this is a good first step. today "the new york times" also pulled on attorney general holder to revitalize the national task force on violence against healthcare providers. that was originally established in the 1990's. i realize this task force would be un

director out at nih and i know the distinguished senator from maryland knows him personally, kathleen sebelius said this, the new secretary of health and human services and a personal friend of mine. i even have heard the president's dog boe said, well he barked, but in case you didn't follow cms there would be a biting consequence. now, i don't want to quarrel and get down into the weeds to the degree that we talk up our efforts for the whole morning especially since it is a friday and i do want to thank the chairman for his perseverance again also the ranking member. and i do want to thank again, senator mikulski who works with everybody with good intent, but we had a counter counter if i can find. allison, do you have that or do i have it? [inaudible conversations] >> okay, just to make sure everybody understands we want cms to inform and disseminate, we see now senate reports and recommendations are prohibited from being used by any government entity for payment coverage or treatment decisions. and then we thought that that would be more precise. so i still believe that the board prohibit

he's the director out at nih, and i know the distinguished senator knows him personally, kathleen sebelius said it on his secretary of health and human services, and a personal friend of mine. he even -- he'd heard that the president's dog bo actually tuesday. >> well, he barked, but he said in case you didn't follow cms, there would be a biting consequence. i don't want to quarrel and get down into the weeks to the degree that we just tie up our efforts for the whole morning especially since it's a friday, and i do want to thank the chairman for his perseverance again and also the ranking member, and i do want to thank again senator mikulski who always works with everybody with good intent. we have a counter counter, if i can find it. allison, do you have that or do i have that? >> if we want cms to inform and disseminate what they're about that we say now senator, reports and recommendations are prohibited from being used by any government entity for payment coverage or treatment decisions and we thought that that would be more precise. so i still believe that the word prohibit certainly

my box kathleen sebelius says you're in charge of health care. well i was in charge of everything, window, rug, administrative assistant, whatever else. agriculture, too. but every time that we would get into problems with our hospitals, our doctors, our home health care people, clinical la, everybody in the health care delivery system it was because of some goofy thing out of the hqs on a cost containment principle based on something like cer and cer, i'm all for this, in terms of what you said, well established principles. i mean i'm not opposed to to that and to protect the public. jon kyl had and agenda on the senate floor, you get into the weeds on this and you bunch of acronym acronyms and whatever else so nobody pays any traengs. i can tell you that every time that has popped out of the woodwork it has been manage that came out of the hew, you remember joe califano and all of that, we had a wonderful seg suggestion from hew, no medicare bill would be paid unless was reviewed every 24 hours by three doctors. under cost containment. sounds p

and i know kathleen sebelius, but she was just appointed about a month and a half ago. i'm so glad that you had linda douglass on because i wanted her to go and look for my letter. how can i get her direct number or e-mail or fax number? host: you can call the white house. by the way, you can go to whitehouse.gov. @@@@@@@@ tt tt we're talking about the white house health care plan, raleigh is joining us. caller: i am on vacation. i don't want people to think a federal employee son the phone talking while they should be working. i want to clear that up. but my question is, what makes the federal government think that it has the right to pay for all americans to have affordable health care when a, they can't even do it for their own employees? federal government is the largest employer in the country, but yet every year for the last 10 years or more, federal employees' insurance costs, including co-pays and premiums have gone up by 10% or more. secondly, if the american public thinks the federal government can run a federal health system, just look at our military's healt

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my box kathleen sebelius says you're in charge of health care. well i was in charge of everything, window, rug, administrative assistant, whatever else. agriculture, too. but every time that we would get into problems with our hospitals, our doctors, our home health care people, clinical la, everybody in the health care delivery system it was because of some goofy thing out of the hqs on a cost containment

secretary sebelius, you're the head of what i think is the largest public health agency in the world. you probably know as well as anyone that public health workforce is rapidly aging. by 2012, half of the public heathrow work north some states will be ready to retire. in my opinion, our public health system did a good job of managing the recent h1n1 flu outbreak but this incident has shown us how critical it is to not let our public health workforce deteriorate any further and i'm pleased that the -- my piece of us was incorporated into the draft bill. madam secretary, i want my colleagues to understand how critical the public health work forcest is. will you please outline for the benefit of this committee how your job is dependent on having a robust public health workforce backing you up? >> congresswoman, first of all, thank you for your leadership in this area. and your long-standing expertise and insistence that the public health infrastructure has to be part of this dialogue and discussion and i think you appropriately identified them. the recent situation still with us, the h1

and i know kathleen sebelius, but she was just appointed about a month and a half ago.i'm so glad that you had linda douglass on because i wanted her to go and look for my letter. how can i get her direct number or e-mail or fax number? host: you can call the white house. by the way, you can go to whitehouse.gov. we're talking about the white house health-care plan and ronald is joining us from raleigh, north carolina. caller: good morning, first, let me sarah on vacation and i do not want everyone to -- let me say i am on vacation and i do not want everyone to think that federal employees are the only ones on the phone. my question is, what does what does the government think it has the right to pay for health care when they cannot even do it for their own federal employees? every year for the past 10 years or more, federal employees insurance costs, including copays and premiums, have gone up by 10% or more. secondly, if the american public thinks that the federal government can run a federal health system, just look at our military health care. when the government ca

that cer would be used to contain cost, as did larry summers, as did peter orszag, as did kathleen sebelius my good friend and the governor of kansas. and that's what worries me and i think that's what worries the senator from oklahoma. if we can leave this open, that's great. >> sure we can. and i appreciate -- >> i withdraw my request under the circumstances. >> thanks. yes, senator coburn. >> it's a very important section of this bill. very important. medicine is personal. medicine is individual. it doesn't fit in a box. >> no, but it does fix practicing guidelines. you yourself have said that. that national academies of clinicians. >> senator, can i finish my point? >> please go ahead. >> guidelines are important, but they're just that. they're guidelines. and when -- if, in fact, you pass this bill out here with this, you are going to raise the cost of@@@arragrr")rráb individual and guidelines are just guidelines, and we create a situation where physicians now have another step in the process, here's the government guideline so now i have to back up what i'm doing with all this other s

later, kathleen sebelius says the president is willing to listen on how to pay for health- care overhaul as long as they do not increase the deficit. the senate received articles of impeachment from the house this morning in the case against judge samuel kent, a federal judge in texas who has been convicted of sexual assault in his home state. the senate has not held such a trial since the impeachment of president bill clinton in 1999. the federal reserve board continues their two-day meeting today. members are considering whether some programs intended to drive down rates on mortgages and other consumer debt to be slow down. most economists predict fed chairman ben bernanke will not raise interest rates. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> as this year's supreme court term comes to an end, here chief justice roberts talk about the court tossed work. as well as some court watchers, including linda greenhouse, gen crawford greenberg, and ted olson. live coverage at 9:00 eastern on c-span, saturday. >> join our 3 our conversation sunday, july 5, live on in depth on c

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius testifies about her department's annual budget.and federal reserve chairman ben bernanke discusses the economy at a house hearing.

later in the day, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius talks about their budget request for next year. live coverage begins at 2: 30 p.m. eastern on c-span3. now we marks from national intelligence director dennis blair. he talks about his priorities for the intelligence community as well as his recent trip to asia. the intelligence and national security alliance hosted this event. >> hello. i want to welcome all of you for what i am sure will be an interesting discussion. tonight's event is part of an ongoing series of events that will -- that is bringing together leaders that will lay the foundation for the national security and intelligence community and for our future. we have brought together an exciting group of leaders working on some of the nation's most challenging issues which includes cyber security, counterintelligence, and other challenges to national security. we are hosting the director of national intelligence, dennis blair, and given the opportunity to hear the direction to ensure the effectiveness of our nation's intelligence community. you spent 34 yea

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secondly there are so many regions we normally have at meeting of justice secretary sebelius from hhs, but also secretary napolitano. we have issues with the airport and tsa as any other governor and i have plenty of things to do and wednesday morning i was testifying before the committee on the bill h.r. 2499 regarding providing for a congressional mandate in the status and so i have a myriad of issues i'm dealing with. >> host: let's talk about health care how is puerto rico fearing an disk eight? >> guest: puerto rico has never farewell even though i represent some 4 million u.s. citizens, even though per-capita we contribute more men and women in uniform to every one except one state. we still do not participate fully in the major programs that encompass health care. that's medicaid, medicare, colburn and schip even though we pay for medicare taxes we still don't participate. >> host: why is that? >> guest: we are a territory. when you come from territory things are different and i certainly want that to change and we are willing to carry the burden as any other state and certainl

director larry summers and indications from our new secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius, all have pointed to the huge potential of c.e.r. to be used to contain costs -- not to recommend procedures best for the patient, as determined by the patient and doctor but by c.e.r. to control cost. that is why the white house does not want to prohibit a government agency if using the results to deny you and your doctor the right to choose the treatment that is best for you. now, after all that was said and done, and a lot was said and not much done, i got quite a lecture this morning in regard to my use of the word "rationing" to describe what this could lead to. this lecture was preferred to as a "scare tactic." and they indicated that i was using the word "rationing" as a scare tactic to scare people to say that we don't want health care reform. and i find that rather condescending and demeaning. and it certainly is not accurate. you tell me when medicare fuses to pay your doctor if he or she decides you need a particular course of treatment that definite eights from the governm