and the secret service confirmed that contact, but also said those interactions were routine. aving said that, it looks a little different when you read the communications themselves. after speaking to stewart rhodes, one agent -- one secret agent -- described himself as an unofficial liaison to the oath keepers, inching towards official. that is a secret service agent describing himself as a would-be official liaison to the oath keepers, a paramilitary organization. stewart rhodes would later be convicted of seditious conspiracy and sentenced to 18 years in prison for his effort to keep trump in power. but another agent, after speaking to mr. rhodes, told colleagues that rhodes was not attending trump's rally to push a political agenda. no. the emails further give the impression that secret service agents took the oath keepers at their word when they said they were attending the event to protect trump supporters from leftist groups. joining me now is carol leonnig, investigative reporter at "the washington post", and author of "zero fail: the rise and fall of the secret servic

, you canceled requests to the secret service for phone records and text messages. why did you do that? >> if i recall correctly, and i mentioned during my prepared remarks here, dhs was delaying or denying us access to relevant information. >> did you report that the congress at that point or asked for a report to congress? >> i was working with the senior leadership of the department to free up or to pry loose information that the department was withholding from us. in fact, i met with the secretary of homeland security in about september or october of 21, explain to him that we were having delays in getting information. and the secretary saw fit to publish a memo in which he directed all the employees in the department to cooperate with our office. we subsequently received a tranche of documents from the department. they were basically emails that we had been waiting for eight months to receive your i think there were about 700,000 e-mails. >> yeah. what i don't understand is your office revived the request that you nullified six weeks after originally making it.

, whether they're — and the secret service, whether they're in — and the secret service, whether they'reefinitely an effect and very impressive. a few minutes ago, the motor— impressive. a few minutes ago, the motor to arriving at there were — the motor to arriving at there were dozens of different security vehicles, police vehicles and secret service in a couple _ vehicles and secret service in a couple of different fans containing media members, medicai— containing media members, medical units, fire trucks, this— medical units, fire trucks, this is— medical units, fire trucks, this is a _ medical units, fire trucks, this is a very large caravan that— this is a very large caravan that made its way here and donald _ that made its way here and donald trump coming in with the highest _ donald trump coming in with the highest level of security. in the highest level of security. the skin highest level of security. in the skin idea of what you anticipate to happen after the former president of the codefendants have surrendered to authorities as expect them all to do, what will happen next? .

so he has secret service when he wants secret service, when he's in china he specifically made a point not to have anybody follow him around to know where he was going, who he was meeting with in communist china and of course this raises all kinds of questions now that we know that the oversight committee has released information indicating he's taken in millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars from chinese companies tied to the ccp which is right in their mo in terms of how they infiltrate themselves, the ccp, into america. >> well, if i was in china, the one place i would want diplomatic security or secret service is in china. i'm not sure why he would get rid of it there. maria: unless you're getting paid for something, unless you're meeting with companies to get paid for access to your father. >> what i don't understand, and i would love the oversight committee or someone to explain this, how does all of this not violate fara? we have seen fara pursue these charges, pursued against people. this is the act that requires you, if you're lobbying the u.s. government on behalf o

not just the secret service but the facility itself.would really look very poorly on them if they're really not on their "a" game. >> yeah, absolutely. the eyes of the world looking at them, even on this fourth time for donald trump. evie, thank you very much for joining us. >>> i want to bring in a senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracy, thomas jocelyn, also a senior staffmember for the january 6th house select committee. thomas, many of the names that were brought up in the january 6th hearings, they're now facing charges in georgia. that's actually very different from even the federal investigation where it's only trump. what was your reaction to both of those scenarios, that jack smith didn't charge those individuals? and that fani willis decided to do so? >> well, i think they're pursuing different legal strategies, obviously. i was impressed with ms. fani willis' indictments. i thought it was very comprehensive. i thought she laid out the case and the narrative of the conspiracy to overturn the election in a

joining us now is retired secret service agent ray moore. office and is a personal friend of the fulton county sheriff. great to see you. thank you so much for being with us. what is the secret service most interested in in this process, in this surrender? >> well, thank you very much for having me. the secret service is most concerned about the security of their protectee, former president donald trump, making sure he gets from point a to point b, safe and secure. >> the security of the protectee which in this case is donald trump. i can't imagine that when any of these secret service agents signed up for the job and got in the protective detail that they ever thought one of the things they'd try to be arranging is the arrest of a former president, in this case, not just one, but four times. have you thought about what that must be like for them to be in this moment? >> i'm sure that is wearing on them, but they're going to do their job and their job is to build a 360 umbrella, a protective bubble around the protectee anywhere and everywher

secret service and com an starting to move. secret service and company of — starting to move.o move. secret service and company of president trial, we - starting to move. secret service andj company of president trial, we don't know if it's just leaving right now but it's due to leave around this time it's about a two hour 15 minute journey to atlanta, do there at the countyjail house at around 7:30pm. and some of the reasoning for that is because of the notorious commuter traffic in atlanta, they are trying to whisk him in whisk him out, due to whisk him in whisk him out, due to a very quick booking process at the jail house, but we will keep our eyes on those pictures and we'll bring you anything as and when we see it. we'll take a short break, you're watching bbc news. bbc news, bringing you different stories from across the uk. when the shop it was based and closed with little warning, the town was left without one. but after seeing a report right here on look north and launching a petition, the people of helmsley came up with one heck of a good idea. helmsley came up with

is because of safety and the secret service wanted this. there is no questions and no one denies the fact that trump, as a showman, having this primetime moment as bad as it is for him, legally, it is very, very beneficial, he believes politically. >> we had sarah matthews, former white house trump communications official on the show earlier and she was talking about how donald trump likes being the center of attention for good or for bad. he likes the fact that today we are all talking about this and not the republican debate that featured eight of his challengers last night, which is true. he sucks the oxygen out of the room. we are now waiting for him to obviously come out of his boeing 757 and make his way down the stairs and i'm sure there will be a motorcade that will take him and his entourage, including his new lawyer. was that his new lawyer? was that stevenson now? sydow? we know it was susie wiles, when of his aides and so -- along with someone we think is stephen sydow, his new attorney. >> on a quick no, i mean, just as we are

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they all have secret service, and my daughter has secret service. you know, it is just wonderful.laughter] i'm not sure what they think about it i'm a but it is wonderful. any rate, thank you very, very much. for a beginner want to say a word about the devastating wildfires that have claimed at least 36 lives in hawaii. we have just approved a major disaster declaration for hawaii which will get paid into the hands of the people desperate -- desperately needing help now. anyone who has lost a loved one, whose home has been damaged or destroyed, is going to get help immediately. i have directed that we serve support to these brave firefighters and first responders and emergency personnel working around-the-clock there, risking their lives. i just got off the phone for a long conversation with governor josh green this morning, letting him know i'm going to make sure the state has everything needs in federal government to recover. administrator grows well will be in maui tomorrow, and i have addressed her to streamline any request for help, and survivors registering for federal assis

and, of course, western secret services. they're so dumb that they can't make them.s i can only be done by russians, because they are so smart, although, on the other hand , russians are so stupid that they still cannot use it correctly in other words, this whole story is me. so annoying, not knowing how you are, but it pisses me off. tell the truth. say that you just don't want gas from russia, but instead we want american gas, because we are their partners. because a critic of the russian government was poisoned dependent on america , whose critic of the german government is advertising navalny to the fullest. after all, until that time there is little. who knew and this man is being poisoned with weapons of mass destruction, poisoned with a poison that exists only in the form of a gas. and this poison is difficult to put into a solid state, but the russians were able to do it. then they mixed it into his tea at the airport and, quite by accident, a suitable photograph of navalny was taken, in which he drinks this tea, and more photographs were taken on the plane q

i want to now bring in retired secret service agent reighmoor. he was the special agent in charge of the heat atlanta field office. ray, thank you for being here. can you walk us through what the surrender process is likely to look at as trump moved from his rival at the airport over to that now infamous county jail on thursday. >> first of all, thank you for having me. and if you want to talk about the arrival at the airport, it's going to be in a secure location. they would have a secure motorcade made up of secret service personnel, atlanta pd, georgia state patrol. and they are going to travel in a secure motorcade that's been plotted out over the past two weeks, the best route to take, the safest route to take, to get him to the jail. >> and you've been in touch with both the agent in charge and the county sheriff, who will be handling this. how crucial is that communication between the agents who are working on this protection of trump, and the local authorities there try to get this process moving forward? >> that communication between tho

thank you all very much >> i want to now bring in retired secret service agent ray moore, he was the service agent in charge of the field office in atlanta. thanks for being here can you walk us through what the surrender process will likely look at. will trump arrival at the airport over to the now infamous county jail on thursday. >> well first of all thank you for having, me and if we want to talk about the arrival at the airport it's going to be out of secure location. they will have a severe secure motorcade made. -- georgia state patrol, and they are going to travel in a secure motorcade that has been planned out over the last two weeks. the best route to take, the safest route to take to get him to the jail. >> and you have been in touch with both the agent in charge and the county sheriff who will be handling this, how crucial is that communication between the agents that are working on the protection of trump and the local authorities who are trying to get this process moving forward. >> that communication between those two organizations are vital. the great thing here is, bo

are on the fbi and secret service are on the job the fbi and secret service are on thejob keeping the. we are still learnin: his family safe. we are still learning details _ his family safe. we are still learning details but - his family safe. we are still learning details but you - his family safe. we are still| learning details but you said essentially you think it's an isolated incident not presented above something larger happening? i don't. you can go back tojulius caesar. violence and politics is hardly anything new, i deplore it as tom does, it is something we need to keep after and root out and i think this is a demonstration of having more sophisticated tactics that allow you to do that and diane then allow you to do that and diane then a happy this did not get the degree of an actual attack on the president but i think that is a good thing. 0ur correspondent is going to be looking into the story, hopefully we can bring more updates to unr moment but, how do you think as you said you described violence in politics in the uk. how is that impacted how politics are played out he

so many times people have been waiting in line in the coming that door and there is a secret servicent and 90% was a, is this the white house? are we in? [laughter] yes, you are in. comeme on in. there is a real need, we will talk about this and have plans for this but amen, this is something that really needs to be done for visitors experience. >> i want to say, thank you for working an act that keeps people in access even though we are dancing unfortunate circumstances, it gives people access to be able to understand the events going on and helps people be over. >> i would love see a more inclusive story of the white house so staffing and resources and this is about features of families and their stories they wish to china light on and it is track of being m honest and we have been tackling this, to. >> we can tell you that conversations are underway and we are actively engaged but there is a scenario where there making unknown. any others? >> with now got new bicycle lanes going all the way down 15th street and electric scooters on the sidewalk and people waiting to get into thes

they essentially tipped off the secret service and fbi about want to to have interview.tleblower told us gary shapley on "special report." >> i called david weiss with my senior executive on the phone and we said we needed to execute the search warrant. he will responded that the prosecutors didn't want to. no sooner had i gotten off the phone with david weiss will we learned that the prosecutors were informing defense counsel of that storage warrant and the evidence that existed there it completely ruined our chance to access those unfettered and that interview never happened back and forth. david weiss is now the special counsel appointed by the attorney general. let's bring in our panel katie pavlich news editor at town hall.com. stef kight and former republican national committee communications director douglas hyde. katie, keep on getting a little bit more. a little bit more. and this obviously backs up what the whistleblower was saying to congress. >> it's corroboration of this idea and this allegation that has been made and proven now with multiple testimony from

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>> you'll see the secret service coming into the facility with the president.hey want to make this -- keep the public, press and protectee all celebrated. bring the protectee in, privately, do the business in front, processing and get out. the wild card here is what we have seen in the past. which is upon departure going back to the airport, are we going to do an off the record movement where the president takes and seizes this moment to capitalize on a pr moment. i've been arrested the fourth time we know the narrative that he could represent. that's the challenge. not just for the secret service but the atlanta pd, local law enforcement, again because could someone with nefarious intent capitalize on that moment to cause harm. >> it may be a challenge for donald trump's lawyers as well, the wild card moment you were talking about. because as part of the bond agreement, donald trump's legal team has agreed to restrictions on what he can say about the atlanta case, the defendant shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a co-defend

sarah, first to you, tell us about this secret service presence? >> my colleague, ryan young, has been reporting secret service has been around the fulton county jail for the last couple of weeks. this is as jail officials, the secret service, and the city of atlanta trying to get on the same page about how a trump surrender would look at the fulton county jail. obviously if you're the secret service, you don't want to be ushering the former president in there for the first time without having gotten the lay of the land and understanding what he will be going through the different rooms of the jail where he may be interacting with other people and how to keep him separate from the general jail population, which of course, we expect to have happen. again, this is what we would expect, the secret service is not going to want to show up there blind with the former president of the united states. >> absolutely. jennifer, to you, the deadline for trump and his co-defendants to turn themselves in is a week from today, at noon. are you surprised no one ha

elizabeth: hunter biden flew overseas six times with secret service protection. watch has been tracking the flights on air force two and don't know how many based on the documents and we understand that reporting out there and judicial watch saying it was hundreds of times more than what we're tracking here and hunter biden using secret service protection and he was a burisma board member and doing deals with china. >> how seemlessly he integrated the federal government into his business ventures. i have to have a meeting with a business partner in hitly or ukraine -- italy or ukraine and i'll hop on the plane with dad. if it was a private sector, okay, but it's public and it's our plane, it our taxpayer money. in the pantheon of hunter biden scandals and alleged crimes, it doesn't get talked about a lot but a lot of taxpayer money was used to finance his business ventures whether flying on the plane with his father, the vice president or secret service protections in business meetings and he shouldn't be getting protection for and these are hundreds of thousands

he is flanked by secret service members. it is in both sides' interests to get in and out of there as quickly as possible. jails are always concerned about disruptions. they are always concerned about saw of the. again, they are under resourced, under staffed. this one, this particular jail is reportedly the source of an investigation by doj. so it is probably like most other large county jails an unsafe, inefficient place to be unless you are the former president. >> the next guy that walks in tonight it won't be 15, 20 minutes. >> he will not ride back in a motorcade in 15 or 20 minutes after he gets out. he will probably sit on a cot that is maybe an inch thick if there is a cot. sometimes there isn't. you know, i've even seen photos of fulton county jail pretty similar to most other jails not a great place to be. normally you get a full health screening. i don't think he'll get that. of course it depend on what they worked out with secret service and maybe even with the sheriff in advance. >> we may be getting a little m

>> the secret service is going to go with him through this process. i fully believe he'll be fingerprinted, mugshot, probably not a body search. usually a defendant gets a body cavity search. i don't see that happening. but i think you'll see the presence of the secret service agents who are sworn to protect donald trump as the ex-president. i think you'll see greater involvement with his processing than with any of the other defendants. >> now to the charges. trump is facing 13 charges in this georgia indictment. perhaps the biggest threat he's facing is the racketeering or rico charges. help people understand the reach of this racketeer influenced corruption organizations or rico law. and why should trump's legal team be worried about it? >> they should be worried. this is a very serious matter. georgia's rico statute was passed in 1980, ten years after the federal statute. the georgia statute is much broader in its application and grasp of various crimes. there are 161 separate incidents mentioned in this indictment. all of those are going to play

. >> i think it's going to be minimalist, which is the secret service is going to get him on his plane in new jersey. they are going to fly into the airport there. they are going to have a full motorcade, abby. that means the limo, the bulletproof car that's carrying donald trump with lead cars from the secret service and the local police. they will have intersection control, which means as he passes by those roads, everything is going to be blocked. he will go into the sallyport in the jail. that's where you come in that back entrance. the gates close behind the car then the next set of gates open and you go the jail. the rest of the motorcade will reform for the departure. we will never actually see him until he gets back to the airport where he may make a statement. >> and that's going to be the key, the coming in and going out. but explain to us -- >> 20 minutes, i think, the whole process in the jail is going to be. >> why is this happening? we are expecting it to happen in the evening. typically, we expect court business to be done during normal business hours. why is that happen

they'll say the secret service believes you can't be adequately protected in a prison so you're going to serve your term in house arrest or some modified -- >> it's very possible. >> modified custody that that is effectively a downstream from his status as a federal protectee. that's absolutely untested territory. it may be something that makes even the prospect of prison time, a prison sentence, a tolerable outcome for donald trump in terms of thinking about what he's willing to stand. >> i would say two things. one, the precedent under american law are not good for defendant trump there because governors who are the chief executive of their state, although they don't have as you precisely pointed out, necessarily the lifelong protection, governors oversee sometimes the attorney general and definitely the chief law enforcement officer, and when convicted, most of them have wound up as democrat rod blagojevich did, in prison. there are extra measures taken. tucker was asking donald trump about jeffrey epstein, who had -- who did die in a prison. there were measures taken. i use that a

they are going to say, the secret service believes that you cannot be adequately protected in a state prison or federal prison, so you're going to serve your term under house arrest for some sort of modified -- >> it's possible. >> modified custody that is effectively downstream from his status as a federal protect the. that is absolutely untested territory, it may be something that makes even the prospect of prison time, a prison sentence a tolerable outcome for donald trump, in terms of thinking about what he is in -- >> i would say two things, one of the presidents under american law are not good for defendant trump there. because governors, who are the chief executives of their state, although they don't have, as you precisely pointed out, the lifelong protection, governors oversee sometimes the attorney general and sometimes of the chief law enforcement officer and when convicted, most of them have warmed up as in princeton. there are extra measures taken, tucker was asking donald trump about jeffrey epstein who did die in prison. there were measures taken, and i use that as a re

the secret service that day is missing. we have seen some recent examples of how secret service records can be missing. and all the proof he and his friends came up to prove did not work. the proof that he was there is still not set in concrete. i think that's incredible. i was hoping for a confession from him and if he did, he did not make it. the only other living present from the american side who was probably there was robert gates. he had a low low admiral position in the cia. came close to admitting it when he was vetted the secretary of defense. there's lots of evidence that took place. we know casey had a meeting in madrid with other representatives of the ayatollah. the diary in journal from those days so far as missing. i believe we will. we have had so much history but if somebody keepsng looking if it's still in existence. that's what i did not put in the book because i did not want to write a whole book on this subject. one of whom was paul manna fort and his friends. they are at a level i cannot understand it

secret service are downtown awaiting the former president's arrival. a truly historic arraignment. we will be live tonight in washington throughout and bring you all the reaction with expert analysis this evening from both sides of the argument, as president trump is indicted for the third time. so there, you see donald trump just getting into the motorcade. we are watching pictures from reagan national airport. it is not a very long journey from reagan national airport, about a 10 minute ride. he is due there at 4:00 p.m. eastern time, and security is extremely tight around the airport and on the journey downtown. security is very tight, in fact, there was a secret service sweep of the courthouse last night. strangely, these pictures we are watching are all very familiar now, because it looked something like this when he first appeared for the first indictment in manhattan. the fact that he is using these political appearances in court for political capital, you will see tonight perhaps a camera following him on the journeys, it is all carefully docum

you can hear on the vocal tambor on the comes of the secret service, they are in fight or flight modeained to deal with eventualities. they are trained to deal with that exit is closed, we'll go to that exit. you can hear panic in the voices. >> stephen: they don't have total operational and situational awareness. they wouldn't react if a fried egg winked at them. [laughter] okay? >> has that happened to you? >> stephen: no, it never has, thank god. thank god. any other revelations from tonight that leap out to you? for instance, what about we saw outtakes, especially of the january 7th speech, where he seemed very out of sorts, the former president, slamming the podium, and -- and said he didn't want to say that the election was over. he wanted to take that out of the script. what did you make of that? >> i thought it was very revealing, that sentence. that substance where he said i don't want to say it's over, which says everything. >> stephen: right. he'll even say the ballots had been certified. >> exactly. he will say congress has certified but doesn't want to say it's over. when

we worked with secret service to let them know how important this was. we cataloged it. we also made sure that it was going to be protected in taking care of as much as the historic fabric that we had and so if we've got the slide there we could maybe you say you can see the historic old fence here that was in front of the white house and we have we are in the process of replacing that with that's about a six foot two inch fence with a 12-foot fence and you can see the project here on the south side. going on. and here on the pennsylvania avenue side. where is you can see the 12 foot fence in place, but along the way you can imagine that that fabric that we touched we had to make sure that secret service was going to you know, be respectful of the process that we had to go through in order to to put that fence in and and all the work that needed to go on in order to do that. there was one real symbol to me of the success that we had in this objective this collaborative objective and so on the south east side of the white house complex. it's a long e street and it's a gin

i >> "washington post" reached out to secret service where you used to work.his. this is not something we've ever had to deal with before. how do you even go about creating a structure and a policy for that? >> i don't think that you need a policy for it because when you do protections, the president goes somewhere. i'm going to check out the structure, the ways in and out, the security plan, look at all of it. at the end of the day, it doesn't matter where he goes. the advance does its thing. they do a thorough assessment. even if it's prison. prison is just -- it's secure, it's already got the manpower, they've already got it locked down, they've got theiring me not only tears, securing everybody. i see that as a safe place. is it a strange thing to go to work and say, i'm going to work to secure the president in prison? yes. i think from the psychological factor that this plays is -- is relevant. if we look at it from an international level, there have been so many heads of state all over the world who have gone from prime minister and president to going to

the secret service record of where he was that day is listening. all of the proof.till to the contrary. i get that perfection from them. the only other losing person from the american side around the gates. having precision in the cia. he came close to admitting it. you know, i guess. a lot of efforts that took place living in madrid. the pages dying from those days. i believe that we will. research so much history. you willev never find someone looking. i did not put it in my book. some of the low-level people in the campaign. they were very involved in it. they were involved at the level i cannot understand. they are extremely involved in it. they have done many positions. they turned it down because they would have to have a lot more money doing other things. >> the land contract scandal. the truth of the matter is that is where it really began. bush was trying to, well, actually, as president. this came out that he was trending hostages. it was illegal. and then they went back to the early part of reagan's presidency. they really exploded when hw bush was r that

you have the secret service. you have the u.s.at have assigned police tape says "do not cross" and the metropolitan police who have said they are prepared for this day hosting a series of calls in recent days. we have been seeing, among others, a small number of protesters, demonstrators on both sides, perhaps numbering in the dozens right now, but no sincere security issues that we have witnessed at this time. it will be a magistrate judge who will be presiding over today's hearing. we do not know if we will hear from the former president himself with that not guilty plea as with the indictment that took place in florida. only a matter of weeks ago it was the attorney on his behalf who gave the not guilty plea. this magistrate judge is not the judge who is presiding over this case. that's the federal judge by the name of mudzila, and she's presided over many cases with criminal defendants who are accused of storming the capital on january 6th and more than a thousand of cases have come through this courthouse. more than 700 of th

secret service has worked to bring as many tours into sherman park, so they provide a soft target and they decided to expand and it becomes more challenging. and hopefully this is a situation that will forestall any of that in the future. and when i first came here i couldn't believe you could get a ticket and go inside, to look at the white house grounds, walked around and listened to fans that have -- to sell a used car, come back and hugged me because this is amazing because this is incredible, thank you for telling me. please enjoy, we love that we brought them back online. in the spring and hopefully that will continue. thank you. >> any other questions? join me in a round of applause. ♪♪ [applause] >> this brings us to the close of our entire day. i want to thank our panelists and everyone who participated all day long. it has been an extraordinary occasion. our shop is open. if anybody would like to take advantage of the shop, it is there for you and hope that you will follow the mission of -- that we all undertake in all our slides and locations through various social media ch

he is a former president, and he has secret service protection, and with me now is the stealthy johnt without anybody seeing you. and look, wherever the former president goes, there are security situation, and what is this? >> well, some of it is boiled down to the drill. the secret service has now guided donald trump through a booking process in new york city, miami, washington, and so there is practice. but the difference here is that this is not being done in the office of the district attorney or the u.s. marshal as they have done it before through a special arrangements. this is being done at the county jail, which is kind of makes him like a regular person who has to go with they tell him to go, and they could have done it another way and set it up special, but they have not. >> and let me break it down. one of the thing they have said in georgia, they want to treat him like anyone else, and are they? >> to the extent that they can. you have two interests here. one is georgia trying to say, we will treat him like anybody else, and the other is the effect that it has on the jail

the secret service is now paying $16,000 a month to live next to a biden hunter in malibu. pays for that? this is a secret service issue, it is well reported that hunter biden is selling art affiliations to pay his $15,800 monthly rent in malibu. how can you ensure that people don't buy these works of art to woo the president with his representatives. it's a matter of whether i know i hear hear. i hear your questions. we know one of the art buyers. got a job in biden administration. can you guarantee what is here? no? i hear. i hear your question quid pro quo. i'm not going to get into this question as hunter biden's rep. so, but now we know this hunter biden associate who was selling opportunity to the biden president. are you sure that he stopped doing this to the representatives of someone who will hold the white house is a matter for the white house. no it's yours, i don't know it take it this way, i'm reading david archer's testimony. he said i'm sorry, not peter i'm just not going to give into it i'm just not going to so that's what this testimony says since i was las

and i just knew in my heart after four years under secret service protection it was a high likelihoodkaren and i got in the car and close the 200 pound doors somebody will tell that driver to go. because that was their job. was. i looked at tim and i said is this area secure he said it is for now i said well then we are here. and we stayed. i was absolutely convinced that it was important that i stay at my post. i thought it was important that i stay in the capitol and do whatever i could to assist the response by capitol police by federal law enforcement even by the pentagon squared away and i must tell you that they did it. because of the extraordinary courage of law enforcement capitol and federal. violence was called. we were able to reconvene the congress the very same day and complete our work under the constitution and a day of tragedy become a triumph of freedom. today the world will witness the resilience of our democracy. i will always be grateful for the support of the members of congress house and senate and both political parties that completed their duty that day and i m

the secret service agent came in again and said sir, we have got to leave the building. i said, we are fine. we will stay here. i was not leaving my post. a few minutes later, they came back in and they were more insistent and said we need to leave the building. and i stuck my finger in our lead agents chest, and i said you are not hearing me. i said, i am not sleeping, i am not giving those people the site of a 16 car motorcade speeding away from the capital. he looked at me with some anxiety and said, well, you cannot stay here. this is a glass door. we cannot secure it. with a note from my daughter, he offered that we could go to the loading dock a few floors down that was still secure. i agreed. but as we made our way down the stairs, we could hear the sound of footfall, we could hear the noise of a crowd in the hallways . but arriving in the loading dock, they began to walk me towards the cars, the motorcade was lined up on the ramp going out of the underground parking garage. the doors were both open, and i stopped and looked at my lead agent, a wonderful courageou

hunter requested secret service protection in egypt south africa and kenya.e dates as dad traveled there in 2010. so remember while joe was vice president hunter siphoned everything he could out of africa helping the chinese buy up african cobalt lines in 2016 with most vice president you don't have to think twice about families going on trips but with the biden's you have to ask questions so we have a request demanding records for every person who was on the dozens of trips as vice president this is a family with 20 shell companies offshore bank accounts bribe allegations millions and dirty cash and no taxes paid most people end up in jail with that kind of record in my next guested. a former mobster with the colombo family so what did you do to get convicted? >> it was a rico case i pled guilty on i have three cases 2 were federal one brought on by giuliani and another was a state case out of florida. so i spent several months on trial defending one i was acquitted i pled guilty to a second indictment and also pled guilty to 1/3 in florida so i am very fami

secret service agent came in again and said sir, we've got to leave the building and i said fine, we will stay here but i wasn't leaving my post. and a few minutes later they came back in and were more insistent and said we need to leave the building . and i stepped my finger in our lead agents chest and i said you're not hearing me. i said i'm not leaving. i said i'm not giving those people the site of a 16 car motorcade speeding away from the capital . and he looked at me with some anxiety and said well, you can't stay here, this is a glass door, wecan't secure it . and with a nudge from my daughter he offered we could go to the loading dock a few floors down was still secure. and i agreed. but as we made our way down the stairs we could hear the sound of footfalls and hear the sound of the noise of the crowd in thehallways . but arriving in the loading dock they began to walk me towards the cars so that motorcade was kind of lined up on the ramp. going out of the underground parking garage. the doors were both open. and i stopped and looked at my lead agents, a wonderful courageou

so there now are secret service people out there, i assume so i can get by with it. it took me four years to get to interview and i wanted to interview. i asked them for the logistics of partly i wanted to interview the two of them together in their home in plains because i was riding a dual biography, so i wanted to see them together and place a plane in the south and their lives. they are from start to finish. so i finally got set up and i was told linda right i was struggling to leave. i had exactly an hour and a showed up at the gate to the combat, to the compound i find that grandkids coming out to the to the compound this voice comes on and asking me name and i told them that my name and so the gate opened didn't see anybody i just drove in and what it was is that was the secret code for that time, if i had been early or later, wouldn't have worked and i was slightly early. so i drove in part, started walking up to the front door. i didn't see anybody and then all of a sudden guy appears beside me who course was the secret service agent demanding the id, making

and now i have a bunch of grandchildren, they all have secret service, and my daughter has secret serviceust wonderful. [ laughter ] i'm not sure what they think about it, but it's just wonderful. at any rate, thank you very, very much. and look, before i begin, i want to say a word about the devastating wildfires that have claimed at least 36 lives in maui and hawaii. we have just approved a major disaster declaration for hawaii, which will get aid to the hands of the people desperately needing help now. they've lost -- anyone who's lost a loved one whose home has been damaged or destroyed is going to get help immediately, and i've directed that we surge support to these great firefighters and first responders and emergency personnel working around the clock there risking their lives. i just got off the phone before i got here for a long conversation with governor josh green this morning, let him know i'm going to make sure the state has everything it needs from the federal government to recover. a fema administrator griswell will be in maui tomorrow, and i've directed her to streamline

here to break it down is a former secret service agent eddie. this needs a million caveats.ow what the punishment would look like but the idea this is something people are talking about and given they have secret service protection for life how would that work? >> i really don't think it's going to be very difficult. he's going a very secure location so depending what prison he goes federal or state, because he's also being charged in new york through the state, miami you see there charging him federally so there's a difference in the prison. you want to go to federal prison. state prisons have more violent offenders. the other thing he had the security set up bureau of prisons federal they have a system set up. it's safe. you're looking at less manpower less row sources, less money for taxpayers so when i see him going to an already secure facility the kicker comes in who is he going to be with, where are they actually going to put him so i could see them actually moving him or inmates around to try to figure out who to put him near which is interesting because usually we n

the secret service agent came in again and said sir, we have got to leave the building.d weea are fine we will sty here i was not leaving my post. in a few minutes later they came back in and work more insist it is need to leave thest building. i stuck my finger in her chest and i said you are not hearing me. i said, i am not leaving. i am not giving those people at the sight of 16 car motors kade speeding away from the capitol. he looked at me with some anxiety sent you can't stay here this the glass door we cannot secure it. and with a nudge from my daughter he offered we could go to the loading dock a few floors down that was stillll secure. and i agreed. but as we made our way down the stairs we could hear the sound of footfall. we could hear the noise of a crowd in thewd hallways. but arriving in the loading dock they began to walk me toward the car. the motorcade was lined up on the ramp going out of the underground parkingg garage. the doors were both open. and i stopped and looked at might lead agent wonderful courageous man, tim, and said i'm not getting in the

but because all former presidents do get secret service protection for the rest of their lives and given the notoriety of this case, they are not going to want to see anything go wrong. thank you for that. rather than joining live in atlanta, georgia, the people in ecuador have voted against drilling for oil in a protected pos of the amazon, and time to tribes have chosen to live in isolation. it's also one of the wells most diverse devices with hundreds of species. but reptiles and fish. a referendum on the issue was held long, signed sundays. presidential elections, 60 percent voted yes. discount, controlling it is a blow to the outgoing present game will last. so who thinks oil drilling is crucial to the economy? you know, who's the pool? the popular consultation showed the majority one. and now we want to stay beyond the last. there is the feeling of the people. they have to respect. we do not want mining of any scale or in any of its phases in the reserve of a joke. o, and do you know, this is a historic struggle and a historic try and not only for the metropolitan district of quito