your wanting to answer questions of the secret service. ma'am, you are the secret service.you said you're the best for the job. you been passing the buck to this entire day and i'll start with something to be the fbi does know because it has to deal with you personally. you said you spoke with president trump after the assassination attempt and i want to know, did you apologize to him directly? for nearly having president trump killed? >> i did. >> i appreciate that. i appreciate that you recognize that this was your failure. since the assassination attempt, you are under oath, reminding you, have you communicated with anybody in the white house and messaging cap like signal? in are you willing to surrender your phone for personal analysis? >> if i am required to do so. >> okay, i will look into making that request because i would like to see your personal phone to see if you were mitigating with your messaging app. have you ever turned down security request from donald trump's detailed special agent in charge? >> i have not. >> have there been -- as your team, the secret s

to that the headquarters of the secret service. hey, we got two incoming planes because you have a protectee a vice president at the white house where the planes are coming too and it is literally a minute before the incoming plane that ends up crashing into the pentagon. buzz is the white house before the detail leader breaks into chaney's office and says we got to go grabs his belt and literally hoists him out the doorway down the stairwell into the underground bunker another failure of imagination. that day was nobody thought we're gonna have to rush the vice president to the underground bunker in seconds to prepare for a plane incoming to hit the white house. and the agents who are with him do not have this classified s key to instantly get him inside the protected bunker and they have to wait in the underground tunnel, which is protected but not the same kind of protection. to get him inside again, ridiculously long answer i am going to have to work on my decision. this is all. fascinating i can see everyone in the crowd is on

the secret service in general, not i secret service in general, not speaking _ secret service in generalrefer— snipers or other technology, we prefer to— snipers or other technology, we prefer to have _ snipers or other technology, we prefer to have sterile _ snipers or other technology, we prefer to have sterile roof- snipers or other technology, we prefer to have sterile roof tops. l prefer to have sterile roof tops. did the — prefer to have sterile roof tops. did the secret _ prefer to have sterile roof tops. did the secret service - prefer to have sterile roof tops. did the secret service use - prefer to have sterile roof tops. did the secret service use any i did the secret service use any drones for surveillance that day? again, i won't get into specifics of that again, iwon't get into specifics of that day— again, iwon't get into specifics of that day in— again, i won't get into specifics of that day in itself, _ again, i won't get into specifics of that day in itself, but _ again, i won't get into specifics of that day in itself, but there - again, i won't get into specifics of t

why did the secret service not come can answer why the secret service didn't place a single agent onthe roof? >> we are still looking into the advanced process and the decision speed okay, okay. wasn't that building within the perimeter that should be secured? do we agree with that? >> the building was outside of the perimeter on the date of the visit. but again that is one of the things that during the investigation we want to take a look at and determine whether or not other decisions should have been made. >> one of the things that you said i believe in an interview at the wasn't an agent on the roof because it was a sloped roof. is that normal, and did you fear that immediately creates an opportunity for future would-be assassins to look for a slanted roof? i mean, this is a huge question that every american has. why was it a secret service agent on the roof? and the ribbon reports that agents were supposed to be on the roof but it was hot that day and they did want to be on the roof. can answer those questions, director? >> i appreciate you asking that question, chairman. i shou

about why the secret service is not answering questions. >> again, secret service is rnc coordinatorould prefer any questions regarding yesterday's incident. >> obviously, you don't want to talk about what happened in pennsylvania. have you had to change your security here? looking over everything once again and a follow-up question would be in terms of resources and 18 months have been going into this and you have all of the resources needed to get into this today? >> that designation is the highest level of security designation that the federal government can determine, so we are confident that the security plans in place for this event and are ready to go. it has been an 18 month process and we have worked together over that 18 months to develop security plans for any and all aspects of security when looking into this event. >> have any changes been made? >> we are not doing any changes to our operational security plans. >> wisconsin governor told us a little bit ago. >> we are having trouble with the video and sometimes the audio. secret service saying that they are not there to

he loves his secret service agency. every president i think obviously there's concerns for their safety, rightfully. so as we are watching play out tonight. but but donald trump has always had a good relationship with the glasses. there is the one who was sitting right behind him during the trial in new york? i recall, yeah. and there are always with him often this was the same case when president biden returned to the white house. they have similar age. its obviously there's a big coterie of agents that are travel with him anywhere if you're a reporter and you're out on the south lawn where the president, when he's exiting the oval office, there's two standing right in front of you. there's two behind you. there's two over there. and that's when you're on the white house premise. there's also snipers, the counter snipers on the ruth to look out as well. i mean, obviously any reporter or photographer, anyone who's ever been around a president sees the secret service immediately, but it is notable tonight this new report

the secret service has begun an internal investigation. secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas has announced a a bipartisan independent law enforcement review. and later this weak congress will vote on a resolution to establish a task force on the attempted assassination. this committee also has begun its oversight as well. yesterday as the chairman indicated i joined the bipartisan group of committee members on a visit to the butler farm showgrounds. we walked the site where the attack occurred. we saw the layout, buildings and infrastructure for ourselves. we met with local officials and the county sheriff. today's hearing is the next step in our oversight. and i hope it will be a productive one in keeping with the seriousness of the issue at hand. we must understand what happened in butler and take corrective action to ensure the security of every secret service protectee. i hope to hear from our witnesses today about how state and local law enforcement work with secret service and other federal agencies at these events and w

is it the secret service? and i'd like to get to the bottom of that and make sure it's the secret service that's in charge. i don't know who is in charge and hope to god that we do find out. and hope it's the secret service, and if it is the secret service, reaffirmed that they are in charge because the buck stops somewhere. it's got to be here. this committee, the government come with us in congress. gentlemen, thank you very much here mr. chairman, i yield. >> jet of an yields back if i never get as muscle for five minutes of questioning. colonel paris and mr. yoes i appreciate your patience and being in consuming to go through this questioning. i would submit that i think your candor, colonel paris, has been very refreshing and it paints a clear contrast from what was the testimony of the director of the secret service yesterday who has now resigned. but her resignation doesn't solve a thing. and affect the criminal investigation that your department is undertaking that presumably but the resource may be in

is it secret service? fbi?it's going to be all your federal agencies that will play a very crucial part in all this. certainly to secret service, it will play a very important role. all of your federal agencies, any of them that you can name that are involved, secret service, fbi, they are watching this, and they will be part of this process, too. we don't know exactly what happened here. but i think as we go out throughout the night into tomorrow and over the rest of this week, and hopefully we will learn more, but i can assure you that even at your state and unquestionably at your federal level it's going to be all hands on deck when you have this type of horrific incident to take place. it looks bad regardless of what happened. it is troubling here in terms of what we are seeing and what has occurred to a former president of the united states. >> cedric alexander, senior law enforcement analyst thank you so much for getting on the phone and talking with us today. joining me now, max boot, washington post col

i know it's a challenge to secret service and something every secret service agent wants to wake up every day and avoid so please pass on our gratitude for the work they're doing every day and the work they're doing and appreciate about that. i want to ask you about the interviews that's happening and you've done about 400 to this point. the counter team that was law enforcement that was on the rooftop, have they been interviewed? ronald: i believe so. sen. lankford: do you know they were at that post sometimes, were they at that post 6:08 to 6:11. ronald: i have not read the reports directly, to be fair but briefed on some of it. paul: they were at times during the time frame i'm talking about here on post within the a.g.r. building and i do believe, i'd want to confirm it at some point, one or more did venture out in an effort to locate and isolate. sen. lankford: they also were looking for this individual that was suspicious and they left that post to look for him on the ground at different points to see if they could get a different perspective and we're trying to discover if during t

a tree blocked the secret service you. this kid did investigation and he had a drone for days prior and had surveillance of the premises and that position was probably the best and there was also a water tower that would be a perfect for secret service. >> i was not. >> you are aware of what i'm talking about? >> i physically flew out there saturday the 13th and i did not walk the roof but -- >> on the adjacent building, we got a tour of that as well where i believe local police were positioned there were three windows in the first one had a plain view of where this paper would be. however, they were stationed in the second and third windows. are you familiar with this? >> i'm not from a i have been see the secret service operations plan and assign butler esu. >> counters papers -- do you know if they should have been assigned to the rooftop? >> there are many ways you can cover positioning people on the rooftop would be one. >> going to the site way too close, he should never have been allowed to get on top and i know you

been in the secret service since 1995. she applied for the position while she was still in college, all right? she was elevated to head of secret service two years ago in 2022. moments ago we were talking with jim jordan when she arrived and gave us a preview of what he will act the director. >> the key question about what happened during it. 6:09 the shooter is identified. 6:ten the counter sniper is notified about the shooter on the rooftop. 6:11 the shooter fires and hits president trump. 6:12 the counter sniper takes him out. 6:14 the president is taken off the stage. so that's five critical moments. five critical minutes. we want to know exactly what was going into on the five minutes. what were the communications? that's an important line of questions we need to get to. >> dana: fox team coverage. kennedy and paul mauro are standing by. dana marie how the trump campaign plans to pivot with biden out of the race. lucas tomlinson, set us up for the hearing. >> we're moments away from the house oversight committee heari

secret service red ties, donald trump. the secret service was more concerned about protective agents around donald trump, if you think i'm making this up, go to -- go to a left wing search engine, go to scroogle, they were more concerned about the color of the secret service agent ties around donald trump given the perception that a red tie was some -- i'm got red ties, i'm a republican p. it's nothing to do with it. red ties go nice with white shirts. that's an actual -- you see it right now. i'm not crazy. this is what the secret service was concerned about. they put out 1,000 tweets about all of this dei stuff. do i know that's related? i don't. i'm saying like there were -- you have one job. and only one job. your job is keep the body alive no matter what. donald trump, joe biden, jill biden, the president of dijabudi, it doesn't matter. that is your job. absolutely, resolutely, 100% failed. not a single excuse should be made. not a single excuse should be attempted. this should be the subject of congressional hearings

secret service and f.b.i. for this event on the days leading up to the event to determine and assess whether there was any information or intelligence pertaining to a threat against the rally or to former president trump or anyone else there. there was an absence of that in the lead-up specifically. none of us had any information or holdings with regard to the ultimate shooter. >> thank you very much, both of you. >> senate judiciary committee is senator grassley. >> i want to introduce my oversight letters and investigating documents into the record. the information i've already made public. >> no objection. >> thank you. i would also like to call my colleagues' attention to a legislation that senators have introduced requiring senate confirmation of the director of the secret service. i think this is a very important because no other agency has a no-fail mission. mr. rowe, in your written testimony you stated that to prevent similar lapses like the one on july 13th from happening again, you will insure every

as well as the secret service and f.b.i. for a very productive and informative briefing with our committees last week. today our witnesses will help us begin to answer critical questions and get the information that we need to implement reforms that are clearly needed to strengthen security protocols for the u.s. secret service and the people who receive their protection. the homeland security and governmental affairs committee has already begun that work. this discussion comes in the midst of a bipartisan investigation that senator paul and i have launched in which we launched shortly after the assassination attempt took place. our teams are still collecting critical information speaking to law enforcement and piecing together the details of this event. this past weekend, a bipartisan team of our investigators along with key staff from senators blumenthal and johnson's office traveled to pennsylvania to speak with local law enforcement officials reviewing critical information from security officials working alongside the se

>> it wasn't the secret service. we don't factor into the decision. >> can you take a look at why that happened now that you are in charge and consider the possibility that he might need that protection? >> i will do so, senator. >> i want to reveal the protective details. i am pretty confident that the agency can get this done. i think it needs to get done if you look at the kind of ongoing threats that he had all these others face. despite all the resource constraint we've talked about tthe day, is not the president f the united states. he doesn't have an 18 car motorcade. i think he needs that protective detail. i'm asking you to take a new look at that and talk to your supervisors inside the department about whether you can spare just that small limited amount of resources. >> thank you very much. first of all, thank you both for other tremendous work that you do and for all the folks behind you. thank you for that. i kind of want to follow up a little bit on senator cotton. there is issues that have been raised.

and do you know if the officers on the ground that day had communication capabilities with the secret service? >> you are asking me a very specific question i would defer to our communication information services. i can get an answer. >> do you know if the secret service provided any guidance? >> i've not seen their operations. >> 5:forty five p.m. pm, a local law enforcement sniper observed the suspect with a rangefinder and reported the suspect to command. how would you have responded to that information? >> i wouldn't articulate that. a range finder which could have legal and legitimate, that is a threat but certainly a highly suspicious activity that should be addressed. >> you testified communication is crucial to ensure the security of the protected and local law enforcement should be part of the command post to facilitate real-time information sharing and rapid response to emerging situations. separate communications are necessary and expected during a large-scale event like this. no way everyone could be on the same channel. he would talk over each other and not get everything done bu

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and yes, this was a failure of the secret service. >> yeah.on to the shooter getting that semi automatic rifle so close to this event, and first of all, you have to look at the open setting, right? what do you think went wrong, what did the secret service miss? >> so, the secret service is responsible for coordinating the security for all of these events, but that doesn't mean that they cover every piece of it, right? they are sort of like the conductor of an orchestra for this, so they bring together all these assets and local law enforcement to help protect the venue. and it appears this was outside their perimeter. so, i think that all of these questions need to be answered, including why there was a line of sight vulnerability and how he was able to get there. was it because someone is stationed there wasn't at their station at the time or was it because of a lack of communication? all that will need to still be found out, but what we do know is the secret service was looking in that direction. there is video of the sharpshooter ready and

you are searched by secret service. they go through your bag as well to make sure you do not have any items that are barred. typically, people aren't even allowed to bring in large backpacks or items as well because this is an event with the former president and members of the press are allowed to bring our laptops in. t but secret service takes this very seriously. they do screen every single person that enters these rallies and because of that, the lines often get very, very long as they are waiting to get people cleared in order to enter these rallies. we have seen that at every single rally we have gone into. people be turned away maybe because they brought something they weren't allowed to have or maybe they had to leave something with secret service. so they are diligently checking every member that enters these trump rallies. clearly, we do not know exactly what happened here today. we are still learning details and we'll bring those to you as we have them. but there are definitely security precautions under way

the new acting director of the secret service is a 24 year veteran of the secret service. we can only hope he will provide the protection that will allow this campaign to make it to election day with the big surprises being only political surprises and between now and then donald trump is going to have to get used to hearing this. >> when i was elected united states senator, i was elected attorney general and i was a courtroom prosecutor before then. and in those roles i took on perpetrators of all kinds. predators who abused women. fraudsters who ripped off consumers. cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say, i know donald trump's type. >> kamala! kamala! kamala! kamala! >> and in this campaign, i promise you i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. as attorney general of california i took on one of our country's largest for-profit colleges that was scamming students. donald trump ran a for-profit college that scammed students. as a prosecutor i specialized in cases involving sexual abuse. well, trump was found liable for

the secret service why? it it's interesting that they did not move him until they got the clear that there's shooter was down yeah. >> anderson, there is a lot going on in just a few seconds and it just speaks to how dynamic and unpredictable these situations are. but this is something that the secret service constantly trains for and as you said earlier, there are people who their agents who were on that stage that i worked with that i trained with. and i can attest that we have practiced for these situations thousands of times. and what we saw was a flaw near flawless execution by not only the secret service that we're seeing but what we don't see. let me first talk about what we are seeing. we're seeing the secret service react very quickly upon identification of a threat. now, at that moment, they may not know that it's an actual it's actual gunfire, but it's a perceived threat and they're going to action offer that. they're going to go to the protectee as we saw the president was already moving down whi

the secret service needs it's to adapt and improve its methodologies it's simply put the secret servicentury threats. with a 20th century budget and manpower stance based on 19th century assassinations we need the united states secret service ready to emerge and face the threats of the 21st century and beyond current leadership, needs to be a gifted and augment john miller what you think, i mean, obviously we're going to hear a lot of talking points today. a lot of finger-pointing initially, it sounded as though the secret service was trying to put this on local law enforcement. they backpedaled from that just has not been a great week or so for the secret service. i mean, obviously they as paul was saying a few moments ago, lesson lessons learned, yes. obviously, those need to be applied but the public seems to be calling out for a lot more than that well, the secret service director stepping down is probably, as paul said, a bad idea to that time, you're coming out of one political convention. >> you're going into another. she has been intricately involved with the large team and the

they said that you have to put those two secret service and of course secret service was not present at this particular press conference. so again, there are still at this point, a lot of questions that we do have certainly about the identification of the person, how long he was there and how in the world this was able to happen. but the eff bi and local law enforcement there encouraging people who may have been at that rally to call into provide any other cell phone video that they might have taken to give any information if they potentially know who might have been that shooter, to come forward and to help with this investigation. and i think that we're just getting an incredible look. certainly we a first look i should say at the massive scale of this investigation that is underway right now from the federal level to hear at the local level in western pennsylvania back to you. >> au question danny freeman as we noted earlier, the fbi is now leading the investigation. and to danny's point, there were a lot of eyes and ears in the audience there. some of them taking videos of this a

the secret service has an incredible culture. our men and women play service over self. they come in every day willing to risk their lives for our protective mission . and they work investigations that for people who would do harm to children, child exploiters. we have an incredible mission and our culture is we will get the job done no matter what. well, those on the front line certainly have a great culture, and they were willing to risk their lives for president trump. but i'm not sure. the leadership at the agency has this right kind of culture. i jo back mister. sure . sure. now recognize miss conley from virginia. thank you mister chairman. well, i hope the american people do appreciate the incredible daily risks secret service agents pay on our behalf. as you mentioned, there are $36.00 regular clients. you've got that you protect constantly, but i was participating in the nato summit just 2 weeks ago. we had $32.00 has a government and it has the state plus visiting has a state and has a government. presumably you provided protection for all that is correct. just

is it the secret service? and i'd like to get to the bottom of that and make sure it's the secret service that's in charge. i don't know who is in charge and hope to god that we do find out. and hope it's the secret service, and if it is the secret service, reaffirmed that they are in charge because the buck stops somewhere. it's got to be here. this committee, the government come with us in congress. gentlemen, thank you very much here mr. chairman, i yield. >> jet of an yields back if i never get as muscle for five minutes of questioning. colonel paris and mr. yoes i appreciate your patience and being in consuming to go through this questioning. i would submit that i think your candor, colonel paris, has been very refreshing and it paints a clear contrast from what was the testimony of the director of the secret service yesterday who has now resigned. but her resignation doesn't solve a thing. and affect the criminal investigation that your department is undertaking that presumably but the resource may be in

why did the secret service not? can you enter why the secret service didn't place a single agent on the roof? we are still looking into the advance process and the decision, the okay. okay, let's. was it that building within the perimeter? that should be secure? do we agree with that? the building was outside of the parameter on the day of the visit. but again, that is one of the things that during the investigation we want to take a look at and determine whether or not other decisions should have been made. and one of the things that you said, i believe in an interview, that there was an agent on the roof because it was a slope roof. is that, is that normal and do you fear that that immediately creates an opportunity for future would be assassins to look for a slanted roof. i mean it, this is a huge question that every american has why, it wasn't a secret service agent on the roof. and there have been reports that agents were supposed to be on the roof, but it was hot that day and they didn't want to be under is ca

why did the secret service -- can you answer why the secret service didn't place a single agent onto the roof? >> we're still looking at the advanced process -- >> okay, okay. wasn't that building within the perimeter that should be secured, do we agree with that? >> the building was outside the perimeter on the day of the visit. again, that is one of the things during the investigation we want to take a look at and determine whether or not other decisions should have been made. >> one of the things that you said i believe in an interview, that there wasn't an agent on the roof because it was a sloped roof. is that normal and do you fear that that immediately kreets an opportunity for future would-be assassins to look for a slanted roof? this is a huge question that every american has. why wasn't a secret service agent on the roof. there are reports that agents were supposed to be on the roof but it was hot that day and didn't want to be on the roof. >> i appreciate you asking me that question, chairman. i should have been more clear in my answer when i spoke about where we placed pe

the director kim cheadle runs the secret service on a daily basis. you do have the fbi investigation ongoing now and the fbi of course takes the lead and since this was an attempted assassination against the former president the secret service steps aside and they will provide information as part of their investigation, but you see simultaneous efforts here and you will likely see the department of homeland security inspector general look at this and conduct an investigation and we will have congress which has sent documents already to the secret service and dhs requesting operational plans and other items so they can start their investigation. this will be a bumpy road and i won't sugarcoat it. this is for the near future for the secret service as they are put under the microscope. >> do you expect somebody to lose their job over this? >> i would never say never. the director of the secret service and the director of homeland security are going to have to defend an agency which has a no fail mission and they have to be right 100% of the time in thei

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that include secret service as well.o stop at stifling the innovation and use technologies the way it should be to protect our public and government officials. >> sandra: you make a great point and hopefully it comes up in the hearing why this was not used and why a drawing was not deployed. there is a big question over the site survey that the secret side of us has to do before the event takes place. former fbi agent and sink the site will basically tell us everything. if that building with the sloped roof's and the slight survey and they did not secure it, that will answer a lot of questions, brett, thank you for joining us, right, john. >> john: you mentioned secret service growing questions with new details emerged with the attempted assassination of former president trump. fbi retired agent bobby chacon will make sense of the investigation and where it goes next. plus this. >> they tried to put joe biden through. these are scripted become essentially taped interviews, pretaped interviews. he can even get through tho

and you were telling the police and the secret service. telling the police, we are pointing at him for the secret service, the they were looking at us the whole time with binoculars. could they see him? probably not because the way the slope roof went, he was behind where they could see. but why are there not secret service on all the roofs? this is not a big place. ok, so that was a witness speaking to gary o'donoghue soon after that assassination attempt. lots of questions. robert mcdonald is here, a retired secret service supervisor who is also a lecturer. he was part of the team who protected the then vice presidentjoe biden. so, robert, what would you have said to that witness? he had so many questions — how would you have answered him? i'm troubled by his information, very trouble that a citizen who was at the event was able to see that something appeared to be not right, was taking it upon themselves to pass that information along, and i'm a bit concerned that the information didn't get to the detail that specifically is around the

s. secret service. that is the agency that protects the lives of the president, former president's top candidates for office as well as born diplomats. and she testified and she did take responsibility for what appeared to be a pretty big failure. but from there, she couldn't really answer questions. very insufficient answers were given much of the us public is largely dissatisfied by what they heard about a specific line of questioning about the fact that a suspicious man was in the crowd that he was climbing the roof. this roof was not occupied by a secret service agent that his roof was outside of the security perimeter. it raises some very serious concerns about whether or not the secret service was really taking its job seriously. on the day when the fatal or nearly fatal attempted assassination attempt that failed when that took place in pennsylvania years ago, what happened here is the conversation on capitol hill. it's been reported that before former president trump got up on the stage at aroun

this is a secret service talking. so i, they wouldn't say what a change from absolutely false, unequivocally false to oh, by the way, there were some times where we didn't give them what they want it. that's a huge change in 5 days and the fact that you can't answer how many times you did that, that's pretty darn frustrating, not just for me, but for at, for the country. i hear your frustration. let me ask you this. were any of those request denied to present from detail after you knew about the iranians, right? what i can tell you again, i don't know the specifics is that there are times when we can fill a request. it doesn't necessarily have to be with a secret service asset or resource. we can fill that request with locally available . so i just spoke to anyone at the white house since july 13th. yes, i have to talk to i have brief to the president and the vice president talked to the 1st lady. no, i have not talked to the white house staff anymore. the white house communications . no, i have not. have you talked t

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the secret service _ secret service at this time. funding each year, as has been explained by my colleagues here. you have had an increase in real terms of 55%, as you are no doubt aware, staffing levels for those assigned to protect the president, former presidents and other senior officials at has decreased by about 350 between 2014 and today. clearly a lack of financial resources is not to blame for the staffing shortage. in 2022, the secret service saw nearly half its workforce leave in one year, and during the same year it was ranked last a among law enforcement agencies in the best places to work in federal government. can you explain why your agency was so poorly rated and why so many staff left in just one year? with all due respect, i dispute the statistic— with all due respect, i dispute the statistic of — with all due respect, i dispute the statistic of half _ with all due respect, i dispute the statistic of half of _ with all due respect, i dispute the statistic of half of the _ with all due respect, i dispute the statist

listen to the secret service right now. this is obviously a very, very delicate, very sensitive moment in american history right now. we're watching the former president united states, donald trump at a rally in butler, pennsylvania, just a little while ago. you can see he raised his right hand towards the side of his face and then you can see there's some blood near his ear. we're watching all of this very, very closely indeed, let's show that video one more time from the beginning. so everyone can get a sense of what unfolded. watch this look what happened well, you're writing on, you good to know you can hear people screaming, you can hear people saying get down, get down, get down. obviously a very, very dangerous, very sensitive moment. indeed, the former us secret service agent, jonathan wackrow, is joining us right now. jonathan, you've watched the video, you saw the secret service agents rushed to the podium. there russia up, tell everybody to get down. what's your sense? what unfolded i'm not hearing jonathan wackr

secret service. just breaking, moments ago president trump's first reaction on truth social, i want to thank the u.s. secret service and all of law enforcement for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in butler, pennsylvania. most immorally i want to extend condolences to the family of the person at the rally who was killed and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. it is credible such an act can take place in our country. nothing is known about the shooter who is now dead. they said i was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right year. i knew immediately something was wrong and i heard a whizzing sound, shot and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. much bleeding took place so i realize what was happening. "god bless america". according to secret service tonight, during former president trump campaign rally in butler pennsylvania on the evening of july 13 at approximately 6:15 p.m., a suspected shooter fired multiple shots f

when it comes to the secret service, we have various channels for secret service agents and aspects of that event. >> it's not possible that the delay in communication or the losing of the thread of tracking this individual was sort of lost in the commotion of all of the other communications that could have been or maybe was not -- was separate from the communications channels that were happening? >> senator, i can only speak to the secret service lines of communication, and we did not have anything beyond suspicious person that was communicated to us. >> last question, and really quickly because i am out of time, but acting director, was there any communication with the secret service that was talking directly with the president's -- the former president's detail, and there are questions by my colleagues about why the call was not made to delay the event. help us understand the communication of what was directly happening with the president's detail to make the call, and we all have been to these events and they never happen on time, but to delay this while it was being investigated?

it's zero-fail mission, to protect our senior leaders the secret service has an incredible culture. >> our men and women place service over south. they come in every day willing to risk their lives for our protective mission and they work investigations that thwart people who would do harm to children. child exploiters. we have an incredible mission and our culture is we will get the job done no matter what. >> well, those on the frontlines certainly have a great culture and they were willing to risk their lives for president trump. but i'm not sure the leadership at the agency has this right conduct, culture. i yield back, mr. chairman. >> chair now recognizes mr. khan late from virginia thank you, mr. chairman. well i hope the american people do appreciate the incredible daily risks. >> secret service agents take on our behalf you mentioned there are 36 regular client you've got that you protect constantly, but i was participating in the nato summit just two weeks ago. we had 32 heads of government and heads his a state plus visiting heads of state and heads of government presumably

secret service. now, the district attorney did not know if the shooter died through a self-inflicted wound or not. we also don't know more details about what kind of shooter this was. i think we need to be really careful until we find out more. i asked you know, was this did the shooter have a gun? is that what you're saying? he said i can't confirm that right now. i can't confirm from anything about bullets or anything like that. so i think we need to be really careful till we get the actual confirmation of what kind of shooter this was. but the butler district attorney, richard goldfinger, is confirming that one spectator is dead. a second spectator isn't serious condition and the shooter is dead. i asked him, how did this person, this shooter that he did not have details about biden the way get through security and get get have access to caused an injury to the former president. there. and he said to me, look, that's the million dollar question right now. that is what we're all trying to figure ou

now the secret service countersniper and secret service personnel are bound by typical u.s. shoot somebody because they see somebody. they have to make sure and identify it's a threat and make sure that the threat is actionable. in this situation you're talking about a threat even 100, 120 yards out, that is not easy to see from a rooftop speculative. -- perspective. when you do see that you have to make sure that it is a threat and it wasn't a mechanic or somebody else going on the top of the roof to do something, or worse another potential law enforcement officer. if you watch the video it looks like they identify the threat, they probably call in a ground team to go assess, is that a friend or a foe, and then almost simultaneously, you see the rifle discharge the round at the target. so it appears to me that they did see the threat, they did take action as soon as they could identify that it was a threat and ultimately stopped the threat. >> robin: we so appreciate your insight. it's very, very helpful. you talk about the investigations. we know that the fbi is going to b

what i would caution, though, is that i sense -- is and you're the secret service and these people are your friends and heroic people that do good things, that we can't let our friendships blind us from responsibility. so someone is in charge of the secret a at the zone. would the secret service be in charge of the entire operation and work with law enforcement, with us they are in charge of c entire operation, and that's the secret service not the local police. >> you are correct, sir. this is a failure of the secret service. >> that's what i mean. i don't wish anybody harm. i appreciate the bravery of the capitol hill police, and i was at the shooting at the ball field and i have heard 100 shots coming our way, and fortunately none came to me, but i appreciate the bravery of all the people who protect us. there's also the idea that there are certain mistakes that don't make you a bad person, but they are inexcusable if you made that mistake. for example, let's say you determine the local police should have been on there and they told us, and the local police say they didn't tell us t

i know this is a challenge to all secret service. this is something every secret service agent wakes up and wants to avoid. pass on our gratitude for the work they do and for what's happening out there. >> i will. >> i want to ask you about some of the interviews. you have done more than 400. for the countersniper team that was local law enforcement that was on the second floor overlooking that rooftop, have they been interviewed? >> yes, senator, i believe each of them have been interviewed. >> do you know if they were at their post at that time able to look across? they were at that post? do we know they were at that post at 6:08 to 6:11? >> my understanding -- i want to be fair. i have not read the reports, but i've been briefed on some of it. they were at times during the time frame we are talking about here on post within the agr building. i do believe -- i would want to confirm this -- one or more did venture out in an effort to locate and isolate -- >> we understand they were looking for this individual that was suspicious, th