secret service. today, spencer serves a as the global business development, inc., and action premier company. we planned to have with us, the former secret service agent kathleen flat ti, aley, and due medical emergency, kathleen could not be with us, but we all wish her a speedy recovery. so thankful to joe, nick and larry for being on the stage tonight. so let's welcome spencer and the paneltist s tos onto the stage. [ applause ] we will have a fantastic program tonight and interesting information on the secret service and how it runs and a lot of the back stories that you'll find fascinating. and so let's get started. joe, director clancy i should say is a former director of the secret service, and can you set the scene with sort of the history of the secret service, and it is not always about protection. >> that is correct, spence, and first, as we are sitting here, it is unusual for the agents to be sitting on stage, and typically stage left or right, and we are good talking into the sleeves, bu

we chatted about the german secret service and learned that he once met the president of the b. and d. we asked if he had already seen the fine new building the b.m.d. had been given of course he said and laughed. best that. we then arrived at the comparatively modest building housing the ukrainian foreign intelligence service the s.b.u. until 2010 mile or more she was the boss here and they still listen to him looking today don't worry he tells the guard is german television everything is ok his office is somewhere else near the parliament he wants to go into politics as head of the secret service he told us he knows all about the secret port of akio brusk the arms bazaar in or across the river from order to shore it's actually a good model of the port was controlled by our secret service is yours and also by russia's. but behind the official facade but of which there was a shadow economy in the border young is the corruption born of god as a result large quantities of arms could be transported secretly but without us being able to keep check water on what was there or being lo

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secret service, who has been turning around the secret service to increase morale?>> i don't have any data showing what kind of impact that has on morale across such a large organization. it certainly does not help morale but i think there are so many factors that go into individual morale, and the component of moral, i think is a difficult question to answer. >> congresswoman, i think there is no question that when senior leaders, in any as part of our society, have negative things to say about their employees or the civil servants that are there as career and merit-based employees, it's a bad thing. we ought to have -- >> thank you for saying. that >> we have lawyers across the board understand it is a problem that we've seen not just now, but it one that we've seen for decades. and i think it's a mistake, because fundamentally these are folks that are working for the american people. they're working not for any particular policy that the political leadership decides, they're working on the basis of supporting the constitution of the united states. so fundamentall

secret service who has been turning around the secret service to increase morale? >> well, ma'am, i don't have any data showing what sort of impact that has on morale across such a large organization. it certainly doesn't help morale, but i think there are so many factors that go into individuals' morale as a component, that i think it's a difficult question to answer. >> mr. stier, do you have an opinion? >> i think there's no question that when senior leaders in any aspect of our society, but certainly ones that are actually running the government, have negative things to say about their employees or civil servants that are there as career merit-based employees it's a bad thing. >> thank you for saying that. >> we need to understand that this is a problem that we've seen not just now, but it's one that we've seen for decades. and i think it's a mistake, because fundamentally these are folks that are working for the american people. they're working not for any particular policy that the political leaders decide, they're working on the basis of supporting the const

to treasury. >> secret service is fantastic. he secret numbers could be big. "washington post" cites documents showing the government spent about $a96 million by obaa over eight years. while with the current large first family, trump's travel costs $13.6 million in just one month in 2017. by cnn's count, trump spent nearly one-third of his presidency away from the white house. while he vowed he'd never golf as much as his predecessor -- >> he play ed more golf than tiger woods. >> reporter: the president has spent 257 days at a trump golf club often without disclosing whether he played golf or who he played with as for his pledge to always be open about what he was doing and where and why -- >> i have been the most transparent president and administration in the history of our country by far. >> reporter: trump has not released his tax returns, no briefings in almost a year, and numerous administration figures have been ordered not to talk to congress about the impeachment probe. just some of the items that are fueling democratic

the secret service is part of the treasury department.reasury secretary steve mnuchin has reportedly agreed to the idea but wants to start it after the presidential election. >> trevor: oh, yeah, that's right, steve mnuchin, treasury secretary and corporate kyler wren says he will disclose how much money the secret service spends on trump but only after the election. that can't be a good sign. why after the election, huh? that's like asking a hookup if they have been tested and they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, i was, and i'll tell you the results after we smash. ( laughter ) protecting a president has always cost money, let's be fair, but trump is a special case because this is the first time where the secret service also has to protect the president from himself. watch out, mr. president, the stove is hot. sir, what did i just say? stop that. you want to touch it? touch it, touch it! no, i learned my lesson! ( laughter ) just picturing him now. are you going to touch it? no, no, i'm not touching. ( laughter ) we already know that since he bec

. >>> there's reaction from buckingham palace to royal bomb shell, and some spending by the secret servicecret at least for now. those are some of the headlines on the morning newsstand. "the washington post" reports the trump administration wants to delay until after the election a democratic proposal. it requires the secret service to disclose how much it spends on protecting the president and his family when they travel. the secret service is part of the treasury department. treasury secretary steven mnuchkin agreed to the idea but wants to start it after the presidential election. democrats say the public has a right to know the price of mr. trump's frequent visits to his resorts in florida and new jersey. >>> "chicago tribune" reports an illinois judge ordered google to turn over a year's worth of act joor jussie smollett's priv data. the judge wants google to give information to a special prosecutor investigating why investigators abruptly dropped criminal charges against him. last year charges were dismissed against jussie smollett for staging a racist and homophobic attack in downt

whether he wants that transfer of secret service bad enough to give in on this demand, i guess we haveto wait and see. >> david fahrenthold, thank you for spending time with us. mnuchin, again, because it's all relative, right, you cover politics and compared to attorney general barr and others, but he is the guy who has been a human shield for donald trump's secret and shady business dealings as president. >> and all through the russia investigation as well when we were trying to get answers about his tax returns which may or may not be quite illuminating. he has fought that. he has total control over that unless we go through a very lengthy court process. let's also highlight some of the amazing numbers david had in there. $1.3 million per visit to mar-a-lago? >> unbelievable. >> we're not mathematicians but this is a lot of money going into trump's pocket from the u.s. government. it's a circular -- and then look at the date. is that an arbitrary date, december 2020, just happens to be four weeks, you know, a month after the next election. so what are we to make of why he would choo

democrat efforts require the secret service to disclose how much it spends protecting potus and his family are being rebuffed by treasury secretary steve mnuchin. how odd. we don't know how much the president has spent or how much he could be profiting considering he's made dozens of visits to his own properties. if there's nothing wrong with his spending, why hide it? familiar question, right, for the most transparent people ever. thank you for watching. cnn tonight with d. lemon starts right now. >> well, you know why. you know why. >> you are just like, you know why. >> you are just a big rain cloud on a daily basis. >> i'm not a rain cloud. i'm the truth. >> you are not the truth. you are not the truth. what are you talking about? >> the truth is they don't want you to know how much he spends. the truth is the last time we did it, and it's been a while since we did a fact check, the projection was he would spend more in his first year as president than barack obama would spend in his entire two terms as president in eight years. yet he used to criticize barack obama for taking vacation

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secret service are fantastic. e fantastic people. >> reporter: still the secret numbers could be big. the government spent 86 million with obama over eight years, while trump's travel cost 13.6 million in just one month in 2017. my cnn's count, trump has spent nearly one-third of his presidency away from the white house. while he vowed he would never golf as much as his predecessor -- >> he played more golf last year than tiger woods. i'm not going to have time to play golf. >> reporter: -- the president has spent more than 257 days at golf courses not pledging who he played with. >> i have been the most transparent president and administration in the history of our country by far. >> reporter: trump has still not released his tax returns. there have been no regular white house briefings in almost a year, and of course numerous administration figures have been ordered not to talk to congress about the impeachment probe, just some of the items that are fuelling democratic demands, or at least a better accounting of

the secret service has a playbook for just about everything.there is very little -- in fact, there is nothing they don't train for a bit whether it's a rogue regime, the crazy people running the iranian government, all of it really comes down to the same level of protection whether it's the white house or whether it's overseas. >> neil: whether people like this president or not, he's the president of the united states, leader of the free world for there was a time will be look at iran and said they would not allow a takeover of american embassy. of course, they did, the fact is the government continues to that's why this is worrisome for a lot of folks. their crazies are loose. that'll do it here. here comes "the five." ♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm juan williams. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." we have a jam-packed shell, including new questions in the death of jeffrey epstein, stunning new autopsy and gels of photos have been released. plus comedian ricky gervais' because a hollywood during his opening gold and gold golden glo

i did not know that sending the secret service south to shoo them away was an option! >> who does she think she is, tucker? a member of the biden family? even hunter biden in his recent paternity suit, he accepts service. you know, it's a civic responsibility like jury duty or paid taxes. everybody has to accept service. this is not too surprising when you think she is also the subpoenas, more serious. they wanted to get their hands on the emails from her private server. it was government property. not only did she defy the subpoenas, she destroyed the government property, the government evidence. i mean, this is just another day at the office for her. you know, tucker, here's the question. i have a secret service agent to go out and tell the person, just tell them to get lost. what would you do? i mean, this is their m.o.! the clintons have always operated this way. >> tucker: a government employee working at taxpayer expense to opt out of the system? i've got to admire the brashness this shows. i'm not participating in your stupid civil justice system. i'm just not p

, altered, or illegal to own. >> stack's declared the nickel a fake, but the secret service said, "keep it's okay"? >> it was not totally illegal to have an altered date, but if you tried to sell it to someone, that was illegal. >> the secret service returns the nickel but warns the family never to try to pass it off as the real mccoy. in the meantime, george walton's reputation as an esteemed coin collector takes a posthumous beating. >> it was just a piece of junk, so it was put in with the odds and ends, so my mom picked out the 1913. she was born in 1913, so that could have been a reason. my other thought was she wanted it put away permanently, and that's what she did. >> to protect his reputation? >> right -- in other words, try to keep it from getting any worse. >> melva givens never wavers in her belief that her brother george had the real nickel somewhere in his vast coin collection, but she accepts that the one in her closet really is a fake. >> she had some coin magazines, newspaper articles, that kind of kept up with other 1913s, so she knew he had it. she just couldn't find

and then you use the secret service, you golf more than he did. you spend more money than he did. and i'm also going to talk about all these conspiracy theories you hear from the president at these rallies and you hear from all these panelists and all these hosts on fox news. uranium one and all that and they turnout to be nothing. the emails, they turnout to be nothing. and they go on with another conspiracy theory and their audience laps it up, eat it up, eat it up, and it turns out to be nothing and they move on. they don't apologize, they don't say i'm sorry, screw it up, whatever. there's no repercussion, nothing. >> this is a smile of a man who knows he was just made party to yet another don lemon meme with whatever that gesture was, that noise you made. >> i can only tell the truth. that is my truth. let them have it. >> you're very truthy. i'm saying this. this is what a demagogue does. the argument you and i have is oh, he must be a bigot because he says bigoted things and gives comfort too big oughts. >> who, the president? no, i say he's a racist. >> you can't be a raci

at that point secret service came and said the president's waiting for mr.at his private residence. they asked us to wait with his friends, me and igor waited with his friends in the lobby. people started gathering, the donors for the party, the hanukkah party, in the meantime rudy was with the president. then at some point they said the president's coming out. the president came out. and went through the red room behind to go make a speech to the public. at that time rudy joined us and he came up and he was very happy and excited and said i spoke to him, everything's great, very good. and at that point we were standing, they were having a drink and then secret service came up and said president trump was asking for you to wait at the red room after he's done with the speech he'd like to see you and they escorted all of us to the red room where we waited 10, 15 minutes while he made the speech and then the president came in and he was there with the first lady melania. and vice president pence. and first lady, vice president, and also jared was there. and so

approached her home on tuesday to deliver the lawsuit but wasve turned back by the secret service.a radio host ad offer of what really happened. joins us now. most of us and journalism have been served. i've been served and my boxer shorts at home, maybe a dozen times over the years. i didn't know that sending the secret service out to shoo them away was an option. >> who does she think she is, tucker? a member of the biden family met even hunter biden in his recent paternity suit, he accepts service. you know, it's a civic responsibility like jury duty or paying taxes. everybody has to accept service. and this is not too surprising when you think that is also defied subpoenas, which are even more serious. congressional subpoenas. they wanted to get their hands on the emails from her private server. it was government property. not only did she defy the subpoenas, she destroyed the government property, the government evidence. so this is just another day at the office for her. and you know, here's the question. if you had had a secret service agent go out until the person, just tell

my understanding is for a while, the orthodox church and secret services were well integrated.nder if you could talk about that more, to what extent do priests see themselves as secret services, to what extent do they see their mission, especially those serving here or in other foreign countries? with their ideology and what do they see as their mission? >> we have about five minutes and we need to cover poisoning, estimated immigration and orthodox church relationship with security services and any final thoughts you might have. >> i will try to combine the first and last one. these are related. we got several people poisoned. many in the uk, they have also people who live between two countries. in moscow, he was poisoned twice. the interesting thing is that when you have these people poisoned but they are still alive, you have this picture in your mind that the secret services are so incompetent and stupid but not really competent. so why they do this? i also have this question, too. when i spoke to people about the oligarchs and priests, they played a big role. the red and t

he wants control of the secret service. he will be willing to sacrifice things to get it. the bill isn't written. this is a fight about when it will be written. it's too early to know who has leverage to win this. >> david, thank you for joining us to talk through it. appreciate it. back to capitol hill now. a live look at the room where any minute she's supposed to be beginning in minutes, nancy pelosi talking about big headlines in washington. she has not arrived in the room just yet but we do expect she'll expect impeachment, iran, a lot of things. we'll bring it to you live. while we wait we want to follow first on the 2020 campaign trail that relates to congress. democrat pete buttigieg is announcing his first endorsement from a member of the black caucus. anthony brown saying he will support the south bend mayor. not only that he's going to become a co-chair and packing his schedule with stops in iowa. the news is a bit of a shift for a candidate buttigieg who has been struggling to win over support from african-americans, a key voting bloc in the democratic primary.

the secret service has declined to comment.he president has taken more than 50 trips to trump branded properties outside of washington. and of course the issue is how much are the american taxpayers paying the secret service to stay there? >> absolutely. >>> 40 minutes past the hour. american businesses are asking from relief from the president's wine tariffs. the wine industry is caught up in two separate trade spats. the trump administration placed a 25% tariff on most european wine in october in retaliation for european subsidies for airbus. and trump also threatened tariffs on champagne. unlike chinese made industrial materials wines are not interchangeable. sellers can't substitute a sparkling wine from california for a french champagne. the french tariff could lead to smaller profits in the wine industry triggering layoffs and higher costs for consumers. shoppers haven't seen prices increased in stores because importers have absorbed the costs of the tariffs so far just like many retailers have eaten the costs on trump ta

shots fired by the secret service and two sheriffs. david wright is there. >> reporter: tonight, this woman is under arrest after a chaotic scene near the president's palm beach club just hours before his arrival. police say 30-year-old hannah roemhild drove a black suv through two of mar-a-lago's security checkpoints. >> this woman's driving on the wrong side of the road, going 70 plus miles per hour, with people all over the place. >> reporter: the secret service and sheriff's deputies then opening fire, hitting the vehicle. but the driver sped off. >> we're going to fire when our lives are in danger and there's danger to the public, and that's exactly what happened. >> reporter: police say roemhild then managed to pick up a passenger before a florida strait trooper located her bullet riddled suv at this palm beach hotel, tackling her as she attempted to flee to her room. >> this is not a terrorist thing. this is someone obviously impaired somehow. >> reporter: there's the latest in incidents at mar-a-lago since the president took of

alone, renting golf carts at mar-a-lago to follow trump around as he plays golf has cost the secret service nearly $600,000. if you're in an election year, you don't want your opponents running around saying you know, you spent all this time at your golf course, and you're costing us millions of dollars, you're costing the taxpayers millions of dollars. it's a great talking point for democrats, and the republicans clearly want to avoid it. >> so ultimately who is it up to in terms of releasing the money figures? >> i mean, that's the complicated bit. so you know, we're in a situation where this legislation passes the way it's -- it could be released within 120 days, but the treasury secretary is trying to hold that up and say we don't want it released until december 2020 which of course is a month after the election. >> got you. and so what do democrats specifically want? they just want those cost figures, and they want them, you know, for political purposes before the election? >> of course, i mean, like, look, there's a legitimate oversight purpose here, too. in any democracy you want to

. >>> next on the presidency, former secret service agents talk about protecting the first family andenges they face. the speaker including larry buendorf. and the george w. bush presidential center hosted this event. >> here at the bush center, of course, we have a wonderful relationship with our partners at smu and so nice to have the president gerald turner and his wife gayle with us here tonight, and we are grateful to the board members in attendance and knowing the panelists out here, tonight is going to be one of the engaged programs that is informative and highly entertaining and these guys know how the tell a story. and it is a rare treat to have the curtain pulled back from those who are on the front lines of protecting the president and the first

glue so. 41 year old eureka ski has requested asylum in another european country he says the secret service in his home country by the roots is after him. and reports that i left my family behind in 2008 after i was attacked by the blue then i realized that my wife and daughter were sacred to me. living there so i got divorced and now i'm living alone you. must also that so that. yuri no longer felt safe in his own country because he decided to speak out and unburden his soul as he puts it now he's afraid his former comrades at the security agency are coming for him. but the people in 4 months or so i got information that they wanted to arrest me and put me in prison. to live but. i didn't want to do time or make any statements or be accused of something i had done neither was a kid the book was on the move and there's a story of being on them. yuri was involved in a crime that still haunts many people in eastern europe. on may 7th 1999 near the old fire lookout tower in downtown minsk former interior minister yuri's that got out of his car. was a leading figure in the opposition as usual h

mnuchin argues the secret service anti-counterfeiting operations and cyber security are better suitedo the treasury department. he may be right about that. in fact, lawmakers in both parties have been working with him, including democratic senator dianne feinstein who is apparently all for it if we can just make some small adjustments to the reporting laws so the cost of presidential travel be included to greater transparency, accountability and oversight of protection for traveling presidents and their families. in other words, all those costs related to the. like the more than 50 visits to trump properties outside the washington area since he took office, we need to see that within 120 days and we're good to go. to that mnuchin said, yeah, how about now? he prefer they make those disclosures next year. in other words, in 2021 after the election. because of the full extent of trump's travel released before the election, that would be no good for donald trump and that's thing two in 60 seconds. >>> we talk about the corruption of this president and this administration, we're often tal

can you imagine the secret service allow the president of the united states to be flown by a rookie pilot? it didn't happen. louis freeh checks back with sources with a freedom of information act and with conclusive evidence that bill clinton was never on the island, never flew in the helicopter, secret service agents never flew in helicopter. she made up the whole story. she's interviewed early onset she met jeffrey epstein she was 14. we then check your employment records, her own employment records she was over 17. which is the age of consent in the art, england and most of the other places, but she lied about her age in order to make under age and so she could call the people out. this is a long, long history of lying. she's caught lying. her lawyer admit she's wrong and people still believe it. i urge you to go on the internet and just google me, , go on twitter. uca names that i'm called on the internet, baby -- the first letter is f and the last letter is our. but pedophile. you can imagine what it must be like for my grandchildren who are at the time were in college, my granddaugh

>>according to tmz the secret service is aware of the 58 year-old comedian's online comment and is currentlyine if there is any legitimate threat behind it sources telling tmz that the comedian can likely expect a visit from secret service agents very soon the duke and duchess of sussex making their first public appearance of the year they visited the canada house in london today to. >>thank the nation for hosting them over the holiday season. the couple took off 2 months from the royal duties and celebrated their first holiday as a family of 3 on vancouver island. megan says baby archie had a wonderful time. the high commission of canada. in the u k says in a tweet that it was delighted to hear of the warm canadian hospitality they had received well visiting, vancouver island. >>just delightful and that wraps up kron 4 news at 00:09pm tonight, but our primetime coverage continues at the top of the hour, ken wayne is here with kron 4 news thank you very much next to that and some are calling it an act of war we are following a ron's a missile attacks on us air bases in iraq. we talk with a s

. >> a special thank you to the secret service. rob: saved her from the total parenting failed. "fox and friends first" fails right now. ♪ ♪ just what i needed ♪ rob: the cars. good song. good morning. "fox and friends first" on tuesday morning. jillian: thanks for starting the day with us. breaking overnight, designates the american military as a terrorist organization, taking down the top military leader in the country. rob: iran's revolutionary guard it will set ablaze places supported by the united states. >> reporter: more breaking news out of iran. the funeral for the general killed in that drone strike, a massive crowd and a stampede. iran state tv reporting 35 people have been killed at that funeral because of a stampede that broke out, waiting for more details on that. there are now fresh threats to set us facilities on fire, chance of down to israel, designating the us military a terrorist force, oliver developing in iran where the general is being buried in his hometown, taken out in a targeted attack at baghdad's airport, waiting for more details on that stampede but

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>> ted nugent got a visit from the secret service when he made a remarka barack obama.freshing moment at the golden globes. you still have mitchell williams saying she would be there to get the golden globe if he was not able to celebrate her right to choose and have an abortion. it's shocking for the american people to listen to this. people were watching twitter and saying i might go back and watch the golden globes. audiences are declining because they don't agree with their values. >> sean: larry? >> to follow-up on matt's point. it's not like ricky gervais has done a 180 on politics. he doesn't like trump. he doesn't like religion. but it was refreshing. >> sean: he said it's a joke and we don't take jokes anymore. come up shocking pictures inside jeffrey epstein prison cell. trace gallagher has the details and that report straight ahead. ♪ i feel like i'm losing my identity. business cards...new logo...outdoor sign. you always get me. this week, buy one hp ink, get one 30% off at office depot, officemax and officedepot.com are you sick and andtfeeling heavy?g prob

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