well, secretary lahood, we appreciate your time. >> guest: thank you. always good. >> host: that conversation continues on highway funding, obviously, in washington. >> you're watching booktv. it's for serious readers -- television for serious readers. watch any program you see here online at booktv.org. >> being pressed to go on the road, because once panic sets in, it's unstoppable. and hannah is panicked. he's now, by late july and early august beginning to believe, by god, we've got a race on our hands, and he keeps pressuring mckinley, you've got to go on the road. mckinley says to him, look, i can't cothat. if i go on the road -- he's going to get on a trapeze, and, you know, i'm going to have to mimic him. i've been on the road before, i know what it's like. hanna sends charles g. dawes to go talk to him, sends a friend, myron t. herric, to talk to him, and finally mckinley says i've got to think before i speak. so what happens is people are already showing up in groups, so somebody -- and i think that somebody is mckinley -- says let's make that