the business card of our first guest on the programme this week, google‘s self self—proclaimed security princess of the biggest names in cyber security. the buck stops with her if, for example, chrome, google‘s browser, is hacked. and if you've ever seen these while you're browsing, these little padlocks help us to know if the link between your computer or phone and a website is secure. parisa is behind google‘s push to get more websites to use the encrypted https protocol. now, not all hackers are bad guys, of course. parisa employs about 200 of them in a specialist unit called project zero. they hack all sorts of software before the bad guys do before any vulnerabilities can be spotted and fixed. they're like a police force but they all wear hoodies, because obviously that's all that hackers ever wear, apparently. anyway, dan simmons went to chat about all these things with parisa at the world's biggest cyber security expo, black hat. the security princess is informal, controversial and, unusually for the industry, she's a woman. so honours even with the paper—scissors thing, we agreed to star

the security princess. one of the biggest names in cyber security it sta rts biggest names in cyber security it starts with her if googles browser is hacked. if you're seen these padlocks they have a link between the computer or your phone of the website and make sure it is secure. she is behind the push to get more websites they see there is protocol. not all hackers are bad guys of course, she employs around 200 of them ina course, she employs around 200 of them in a specialist unit is on project zero. they hacked all sorts of software before the bad guys do so of software before the bad guys do so it can be spotted and fixed they are likely police force, but they wear hoodies, because that's all that hackers ever where apparently. he went to chat about all of these things with her at the biggest cyber security expo. the security princess is informal, controversial and unusually for the industry, she is a woman. we agreed to start. who gave you the title of security princess? i came up with that myself, i

who gave you the title of security princess? icame up you the title of security princess? t myself. when i started at google i had a job title engineer security engineer in the engineering security team which i thought was a mouthful and also not very meaningful so i thought i was going to go to a conference and they gave me business cards, i thought if i was going to have a meaningless job title, i thought i would make it cute and whimsical. it served me well because i think there's a lot of people serious in security and come from defence. they have their a—star generals and... and when they see a card that says security princess it's shocking and they smile and it's a nice icebreaker. on a serious note, you're one of very few women at your level in the security industry, even in the it industry, but specifically in the security industry. what's it like? when ijoined chrome to lead the security team i was the only woman, and now we have a whole team which is now majority women and they're the one who are actually responsible for all the work that we've seen to push https

they have their four—star generals and certifications, and when they see a card that says security princess and it's a nice icebreaker. on a serious note, you're one of very few women at your level in the security industry, even in the it industry, but specifically within the security industry. what's it like? when ijoined chrome to lead the security team i was the only woman, and now we have a whole team which is actually majority women, and they're the one who are actually responsible for all the work that we've seen to push https on the web. what are the things you pick up on that you think, actually, i reckon that probably does put quite a few women off? you hear a lot of stories. you know, very subtle things, like you go to an event and there's women that are, kind of, dressed in scantily—clad outfits and that's, like, the major women prescence there and that doesn't make you feel included and respected as a professional. small things like support for mothers so that they can actually participate i think would actually make environments much more inclusive. one of parisa's achievements

so who gave you the title of security princess? self—appointed. you came up with it.le i had a job title — information security engineer in the information security team, which i thought was a mouthful and also not very meaningful. so i was actually going to go to a conference and they told me to me you need to make business cards. and so i was, like, so, if i was going to have a meaningless job title, i thought i would make it cute and whimsical. on a serious note, you're one of very few women at your level in the security industry, even in the it industry, but specifically within the security industry. what's it like? when ijoined chrome to lead the security team i was the only woman, and now we have a whole team which is actually majority women, and they're the one who are actually responsible for all the work that we've seen to push https on the web. what are the things you pick up on that you think, actually, i reckon that probably does put quite a few women off? you hear a lot of stories. you know, very subtle things, like you go to an event and there's women th

the security princess. 0ne first guest on the programme. the security princess.ames in cyber security it starts with her if googles browser is hacked. if you're seen these padlocks they have a link between the computer or your phone of the website and make sure it is secure. she is behind the push to get more websites they see there is protocol. not all hackers are bad guys of course, she employs around 200 of them ina course, she employs around 200 of them in a specialist unit is on project zero. they hacked all sorts of software before the bad guys do so of software before the bad guys do so it can be spotted and fixed they are likely police force, but they wear hoodies, because that's all that hackers ever where apparently. he went to chat about all of these things with her at the biggest cyber security expo.

is the business card of our first guest on the programme this week, google's self—proclaimed security princesses in cyber security. the buck stops with her if, for example, chrome, google's browser, is hacked. and if you've ever seen these while you're browsing, these little padlocks help us to know if the link between your computer or phone and a website is secure. parisa is behind google's push to get more websites to use the encrypted https protocol. now, not all hackers are bad guys, of course. parisa employs about 200 of them in a specialist unit called project zero. they hack all sorts of software before the bad guys do so any vulnerabilities can be spotted and fixed. they're like a police force but they all wear hoodies, because obviously that's all that hackers ever wear, apparently. anyway, dan simmons went to chat about all these things with parisa at the world's biggest cyber security expo, black hat. the security princess is informal, controversial and, unusually for the industry, she's a woman. so honours even with the paper—scissors thing, we agreed to start there. so who gave yo

is the business card of our first guest on the programme this week, google's self—proclaimed security princesshone and a website is secure. parisa is behind google's push to get more websites to use the encrypted https protocol. now, not all hackers are bad guys, of course. parisa employs about 200 of them in a specialist unit called project zero. they hack all sorts of software before the bad guys do so any vulnerabilities can be spotted and fixed. they're like a police force but they all wear hoodies, because obviously that's all that hackers ever wear, apparently. anyway, dan simmons went to chat about all these things with parisa at the world's biggest cyber security expo, black hat. the security princess is informal, controversial and, unusually for the industry, she's a woman. so honours even with the paper—scissors thing, we agreed to start there. so who gave you the title of security princess? self—appointed. you came up with it. i came up with it myself. when i started at google i had a job title — information security engineer in the information security team, which i thought was a m