attacked and it was only once date that was actually breached according to the department of homeland securityo that meant that 20 states did their job and defended well again those attacks. if you look at where we are today in 2018, two years later, we are far better than we were in 2016, but i will say in 2016 i believe overall. >> we're talking the secretary of state from around the country today during the next two hours of the "washington journal." we are asking him about elections. he appeared in your mind, when our voting machines most vulnerable? is it right now, weeks or months before an election. is it on the election day when people are voting for is that sometime after votes are cast, but before there reported out. >> so, that is an interesting question the way you posed it. i would say that unless you're talking about technology. the are usually just scanners and calculate those results from the actual ballot. danger.e not in i think it's been poorly portrayed in the media and to say that there is theth potenti. when you think about it, there is a strict chain of command for the me