my final question, seema mehta, we begin with you. at do these moments tell you about the vice presidential candidate for the democratic ticket? seema: these videos show her charisma on the trail, ability to form a connection with people . they show why joe biden picked her to be his running mate. also, her background, childhood, family, upbringing, influence, who she is, who she became. on the other hand, there are some weaknesses, her struggles to answer some questions. perfect, and she is not perfect. a lot of these moments show you why joe biden picked her. steve: holly otterbein, we conclude with you. what has this taught you about senator kamala harris? holly: again, i agree they show her charisma, how polished she is as a speaker, when you joe biden, who knownwn for his gaffes, for not being the most polished speaker in the world. when i watched the first event they held together in watching this video, it comes across that she is so much more polished as a speaker than he is. it does show some of her weaknesses, in terms of que

times political writer seema mehta. seema mehta had covered harris extensively during her tenure as california a.g. long before she was a national figure, long before she became a household name in the senate. and now, as of tonight, a member of the 2020 democratic presidential ticket. joining us now is l.a. times political writer seema mehta. thank you for joining us. it's nice to have you here. >> thank you for having me on. >> so this isn't exactly like winning the journalism lottery, i know, especially because it comes with no money. but it is a special form of kind of journalistic either foresight or luck when somebody you've been covering since before anybody knew them ends up in a position of national prominence. i have to ask you if there was any foresight there on your part, if you knew that she was going places or if this was just lucky that you were on that beat. >> i mean i think people in california -- and not just me. i mean obviously political reporters across california have known for quite a long time t