neil: i always think you should never let them seeyou sweat. them see en multi-moment by not looking like him and not moment. >> it's a fine line. you don't want to have a crazy out of control moment like you said. at the same time you don't want to. this way. neil: he combed his hair, it looks a little deranged. [laughter] >> yes, but i still think that you don't want to look glib. you don't want to look like i'm too big and too famous and too intelligent. i'm too important to have any of these charges are accusatis really matter. the. neil: so you look like a smartass in some cases. >> that is not what you want to public perception. you don't want to look scared either. because that could imply guilt. but we look at these pictures again and again. neil: their famous mugshots that seize on this. they don't want to look like they are vulnerable or give their enemies any gloating. so they are interpreting it as their moment to say that i'm going to get past this and i think these charges are stupid. so i am not getting caught up in us. >> justin