segarra was fired a few months later. the fed has denied any connection, but said it will conduct its own review. those issues were the subject of a recent senate hearing with new york fed president william dudley. jake bernstein helped break the initial story for propublica. judy spoke with him recently.. >> woodruff: jake bernstein, welcome. so tell us more about what has sparked interest in the fed all over again and how it does its job. >> sure. the genesis of this is really a bank examiner who was at the fed in 2011 and 2012. she was fired after about seven months on the job. but before she was fired, she secretly recorded hours -- approximately 46 hours of meetings of her on the job with her colleagues and at the bank that she was supervising which happened to be goldman sachs. we got access to those recordings and have written some stories based on them. >> woodruff: and how does the fedex plain it? as we -- and how does the fed explain it? they seemed to go soft on goldman sachs, is that a fair interpretation? and