. >> lieutenant gary burke supervises the segregation unit at pendleton. when an enmate acts out in the general population, he's moved to seg for the safety of offenders and staff. most kids who come here are still a long way from rehabilitation and their defiance can cause added pressure for officers. >> the challenge is bring your "a" game when you come to work. bring your "a" game. >> brown, come on up. >> they look -- in lashing out and they suffer the consequences later but they never think about that until afterwards, of course. i have to tell them all of the time, this is fast. just sit on your hands, keep your mouth quiet, keep your mouth shut and let it pass. and sometimes it gets to them, sometimes it doesn't. >> [ bleep ]. >> i don't want the whole situation to escalate. it doesn't have to. no it does not. >> there ain't no the choice. >> after three years behind bars, this troubled teen has landed in seg more than once. his appetite for mayhem and attention is a continuous struggle but now the situation is much more serious. >> he was you know

our units are segregated. they don't interact with each other. f we find a unit where you don't have enemies, where they don't know you, you can make it there. >> it's not the neighborhood that's so bad. it's the neighbors. that's what it is. >> here's what you need to know. listen to me. >> what? >> you're not going to manipulate the system here at limon. you've manipulated the system at every other system you've been at. that's not going to happen to limon. you'll go through just like every other inmate that comes in here does. if that means you go out in population, that's what you're going to go. if we verify custody issues and we move you, that's where you go. but you're going to do our process. we're not going to do yours. >> i'm going to do everything in my power to make, you know, the system work for me, in my favor. >> entering -- >> in regards to going to the hole. >> coming up -- >> [ bleep ] happens. >> george grahf faces the disciplinary board for flooding his cell block. >> you know what happens here. >> an unexpected development inf

and so he talked with me when he was up on the segregation unit and said i really want a chance at the unit. i want to start making changes in my life. you know, we're pretty particular about who we take in. the bottom line on this is there can be no violence. >> i think this unit is the vehicle that i've been waiting for. i think that i'm ready for it because now that my system is beginning to settle, this will be the best time to tackle right at this moment. >> remember, you're trying to change your past. you've been going down a certain road for many years and you're trying to walk a different road. do your time a little differently than you have in the last eight or nine years? you're going to be one of our starters. i know that, i know that. >> i can come up here and i can get my stuff together. so i don't have to relapse into a condition that forbids me from being this free again. there is that form of freedom up here. so i come out here and play basketball by myself, about half hour to an hour as long as it takes me to vent that frustration, vent that rage, just push it all out.

. >> this is the segregation unit. it houses murderers, drug dealers, thieves, all troublemakers. these women are locked in their 8 x 8-foot cells 23 hours a day. >> a lot of them complain that the walls are closing in on them, and that's why they're actually seen by mental health staff, you know, at least once, twice a week, sometimes once a month. >> sergeant tracy wright has been at the prison for ten years. she spent the past three working in the segregation unit. >> this particular inmate, she wants to go to mental health. she does this every weekend. she's wanting attention. >> when an inmate here acts out, the officers follow a strict protocol and take no chances. >> we basically take their things, because a lot of times, they'll take some of their personal items or some of the state-issued items and try to tie it around their neck and give the illusion that they might be trying to hang themselves. and some of the inmates even try. >> working in this area, it can be dangerous. we have had some assaults up here. a lot of the inmates up here are violent. >> once a day, the in

. >> he's been in the idu, segregation unit, disciplinary segregation unit for i think 5 1/2 months nowd he's been conduct clear throughout that time. so that told me that he really is motivated. how you doing, man? welcome. >> thank you. >> they got you up today, right? >> wednesday. >> wednesday? >> bailey was recently transferred from idu to the residential treatment unit or rtu, where he's given more privileges and ongoing counseling. >> other guys like, yeah. we can do it like he did it, you know. >> well, yeah. remember, you're trying to change your path. you've been going down a certain road for many years. my only concern is we have to make sure that you have the skills in this initial part to not get suckered into something that's going to trigger your anger. >> everything is going to be all right. >> yeah, really, i'm excited for you. i think -- if you let us help you and support you, i think this is going to work really good for you. mr. bailey has done excellent in maintaining his behavior. when he got here, he decided that he's kind of done fighting, is done being disruptiv

he was housed in the prison's administration segregation unit. >> i had about five or six charges.st biggest charge is dealing with a teenager which i was 16 and she was like 15 i believe. i ended up killing both of them, the mom and daughter. came in 15 years, and i got 15 more. >> originally convicted of rape and theft, wilson earned his second 15-year sentence while behind bars after he brutally beat a corrections officer. >> ended up, cracked his ribs, his jaw. think i did something to his hip and broke his collarbone too. to me it was no thing, it was prison. you don't come here and work here and think it's cake. no, he didn't die, he just won't be a correctional officer no more. >> despite his attitude, some at holman are trying to help wilson turn his life around. >> i have known him several years. he's a young man with a lot of anger problems. he acts out through his anger. that's what we're trying to deal with now. >> i have a bad anger problem, you know what i'm saying? i'm angry because i ain't with my family. i'm angry because of the way they treat you, the things they

. >> a week later, prison officials allowed us back into the administrative segregation unit, where weonducted several more interviews without further incident. even george grapf and jonathan hall consented for interviewers, and allowed us to take footage of them. a few months later, michael gill was released on parole. >> whoa, whoa, there's ice on the ground. i don't feel comfortable. >>> coming up -- when inmates are left to their own devices, the result can range from bizarre, to horrifying. >> where do you want me? >> get him up front. get him on a gurney. ly delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> appearances and first impressions are every bit as important behind prison walls as they are on the outside. and one of the most fascinating experiences we have in prison is seeing the different methods inmates use to create their own look. from intimidating to tantalizing to just peculiar. our crews have see

you can't be in the security housing unit or administrative segregation.er inmate. you can't be on noncontact status. you can't be a condemned inmate. you can't be life without parole. >> ron golden is serving a 22-year sentence for armed robbery and prison staff assaults. four years ago while at another prison, he married hope golden, a woman he'd known since he was a teenager. he's been at kern valley for just a few months. >> we were corresponding from '98 to 2001, and we became intimate with each other. she wanted to come see me. she knew me from the streets. it just blossomed into something beautiful. we fell in love with each other. >> good morning. >> do you have your i.d.? >> it's in there. >> this will be ron and hope's first family visit at kern valley and the first time they've seen each other in five months. >> the orange shirt can't go in because it's orange. >> okay. now i know, i won't do that. >> okay. and the rollers can't go in either. >> okay. >> i'll give you a bag to put all this stuff in. >> before we were married i was always in a lo

act of violence or drug use inside the prison will bring an inmate here to the administrative segregation unitor ad seg. it is valley state's prison within a prison. while ad seg houses those on temporary lockdown, the other side of the building known as the security housing unit or shu is for serious offenders who are considered a more permanent problem. >> i was set up. i was set up. that's what i was. inmates were afraid of me and they put a shank under my mattress. >> they think i'm a threat to the institution. >> inmates in the shu are kept in their cells almost 23 hours a day. they are allowed out for only three showers a week and ten hours in the recreation yard. life in ad seg or shu isn't just a more intense experience for the inmate. correctional officers like diane vasquez are under the pressure of dealing with a different brand of criminal. >> working here in ad seg shu is very challenging. you deal with a lot of physical abuse, mental abuse, emotional abuse. it just depends on how much you let it affect you. you hear yelling. you hear cursing. you hear banging, kicking on the door

. >> while the review committee considers his release from pendleton, in the segregation unit, 18-year-oldnmate marcus branch is facing the possibility of spending several more years behind bars. >> i'll probably end up going to court from here. they said i could face 20 years in prison for what i did. what happened was, this staff member was kind of big and stuff like that. he always talked like crazy to me. i forget what he said, but basically, i was like, you know, [ bleep ] your family. he said [ bleep ] your family. i don't know, i always wanted to fight him. but, i got like swinging on him and stuff. i thought he was going to swing back, but he didn't. i kept on swinging on him. >> most of the offenders here are very loud. put themselves out there and they try to act really rough and tough and try to sound it. he's really quiet and can snap in a moment. >> hit the ground. i was thinking i'll show him mercy. so i left him alone. >> we talked about that with the staff a lot. i call it a kind of total awareness thing that they have to constantly pay attention to everything that's going

. >> i was on the idu, the segregation unit, and a couple of guys up there that i don't get along withare threatening to burn me up again. i got another one admitting to me that he's got hiv and hepatitis and telling me how he's going to mix up some hot water with feces and throw that on me so i catch the disease. so everybody that comes past my cell door, i say, these are the guys that are trying to hurt me and kill me. i said, i need to get off this unit. >> we have another high number of offenders who will self-mutilate and cut to get their way. officers don't come to their cell fast enough, they want a tv, they are having a problem with something, so they will cut in order to get somebody's attention. >> i'll pull out a razor blade and i cut myself right there. can you see that? right there. them little circles is where i had the stitches. when i did that, oh, i got everybody's attention then, everybody and their [ bleep ] mama wanted to talk to me and find out why did i it. i didn't care win just wanted to make it home alive, man. >> we're going up to "g" unit to talk to offender

he and his cell mate were both in the segregation unit after they attacked another inmate. >> you guys feeling like a real criminal here. >> and on the first day we met bloodworth he decided to put on another display of violence. though cuffed and shackled for his one hour recreation time per day, bloodworth attacked another inmate as we followed behind. >> usually when you're filming an inmate they're a little more cautious about what they're doing because they know they're on camera. this was blatant. this was right in front of us. it happened right there. he knew he was being filmed at the time he started this fight. >> central control we have two restrained -- >> you thought it was over, huh? you thought it was over. [ bleep ] >> we later learned that this fight was the result of a dispute that followed bloodworth from the streets into the jail. >> delshawn bloodworth has a distinction of trying to switch his gang affiliations. he was in a constant battle with different feuds and he is fighting the friends with the old neighborhood. that is his problem right now. >> if you are jump

. >> morgan was moved to the segregation unit pending an investigation into his role in the fight. but he denied any involvement, even when confronted by deputy warden joni brown. >> hey. >> they said i was involved, joni, and i wasn't involved. >> okay. but you know what i told you we caught it all on videotape. >> but i wasn't in the fight or involved in the fight or nothing. >> so you stood there, you watched them clean up the blood. >> no, i did not stand there and watch them clean up the blood. >> well, the videotape has a little bit different take on it. >> the video doesn't lie. you can clearly see peaches trying to clean up the aftermath of this crime. >>> coming up -- >> i want to show you the video. okay? >> kenneth morgan is confronted by the evidence. >> and who is this? >> that's me. >> and then -- >> hi guys. >> by an inmate who just might take his place. >> mr. peach, you've got competition. >> i see. >> he don't have a beard. i bought the car because of its efficiency. i bought the car because i could eliminate gas from my budget. i don't spend money on gasoline. it

minimum security facility but after several fights with other inmates was transferred to the segregation unit at tennessee prison for women. >> warden said i was a threat to security of his institution, that i was a threat to his inmates, that he didn't have a program for me, my behavior was too aggressive. >> her sons are living with family while she serves four years for aggravated assault and a concurrent sentence for forgery and she's concerned one of her boys might be following her example. >> first he stole like a dollar from his teacher and then he's stealing money from his grandma and i got on the phone and i asked him, why are you stealing money from grandma? he said, well, i was stealing $1 and $5 from her and she never knew so i thought i would take a $20. he got in trouble for that and the whole family came down and did like this intervention thing and so told him not to steal from grandma. instead of stealing from grandma, he stole from the next door neighbor. i am having to deal with my crimes, forgery, it's the same thing, i stole the money, i forged a check. i look at myself a

it's the cpsu, the central punitive segregation unit. this is where the toughest inmates stay for crimes that range from the most violent, murder, to the more unruly, violating jail orders, such as talking back to staff. >> close 2-7. >> here, inmates are locked in their cells 23 hours a day. >> if i wasn't spiritual, i think i'd probably kill myself. my goal is for the afterlife. i want to go to paradise. other than that, this is terrible. >> what we found, frustration and long periods of confinement can cause inmates to act up. >> inmate's about ready to charge. he was at the cell door with something in his hand this time. you guys ready? going in. >> officers had to restrain the inmate when he refused their orders to come out of his cell. >> cuff him, gentlemen, cuff him. >> watch your back. >> hold him there. >> 6510. >> today, the cpsu still houses the worst of the worst, but due to the re-arrest policy and its consequences, violent outbreaks are almost nonexistent. >> in the past when an inmate committed an infraction in the jail,

the holman correctional facility in alabama, we were filming interviews in the administrative segregation unit when a loud disturbance occurred. >> they put me in a cell! where it comes down to my [ bleep ] bed. it comes down on my bed, man. >> inmate jamie bell is in a rage because his toilet is overflowing. he blames the inmate in the cell above him of creating the problem by interfering with the plumbing. >> [ bleep ]. >> jamie bell. listen. >> i'm trying to handle this. >> the confrontation becomes so heated that warden grant culliver gets involved. >> if you would shut [ bleep ] up, then nobody would be so [ bleep ] off at your ass. you're acting like a child. >> the inmate above bell's cell is serving life. his name is andrew alexander. >> there was no proof that this guy above him had done anything. but while we were filming i glanced up and i saw andrew alexander staring at me through his window. and i kind of asked him with my mouth, did you do this? and he just had the most cold, evil smile come across his face. >> though it couldn't be proven that alexander caused the flooding, we l

he has spent most of his time at holman in the administrative segregation unit. >> he's an impulsive type of a guy. he's violent. he's in here for violence and apparently the time has not taught him any differently. >> can i be rehabilitated? yeah, i could be rehabilitated. if i could figure out how to get over the hatred. because i have a lot of hatred. i have a lot of hatred for people in general, for society. >> that includes warden culliver. >> he's a narcissist. he's super serious. he loves attention. he loves to micromanage [ bleep ]. and he loves to give everybody at his mercy a hard time. he's trying to be somebody. he's trying to define his identity off the demoralization and dehumanization of other people. trying to boost his own ego up. >> how would you describe steven parker? what kind of inmate is he? >> crazy. he's a nut. i mean, no more, no less. he's not a person that's very intelligent. >> culliver combats predatory behavior and other problems by knowing his inmates well and enforcing his rules. even the smaller ones, like being clean shaven. >> that's how you shave?

and the reason there's an eerie silence, as opposed to other segregation units, is because the inmatesdoors. this is as close to a hannibal lechter cell environment as you can get. they don't even leave for recreation. they just open one of the interior sliding doors and they walk out and they have their 45 minutes of recreation each day, and then boom. right back into the cell without ever interacting with another inmate. so it has a very ominous feel when you walk through the special management unit. and this is the path that i took when i went to meet shawn gaines. >> 29-year-old shawn gaines had spent most of the last six years in the special management unit, awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge that could land him on death row. >> i've lived here longer than i ever lived in one spot in my entire life even growing up as a kid so it's just, you know -- i have yet to call it home, but it is what it is. >> gaines may not have wanted to call it home, but his security threat ranking dictated it. he was segregated because he was once a major player in a violent arizona skinhead

stay" series, we found gilbert exactly where we had left him, in ad seg, the administrative segregated housing unit inmates are locked down 23 hours a day. it houses holman's most violent and destructive offenders, and it is where bobby ray gilbert has spent almost all of his 27 years in prison. >> i've got life without parole, i have two life sentences, two 99-year sentences, a 40-year sentence, a 20-year sentence and a 10-year sentence. yeah, i have anger issues. [ laughter ] >> gilbert's many convictions include robbery, assault and two counts of murder, one of which was carried out against another inmate in prison. during our shoot, we would see his anger erupt again. [ bleep ] >> five minutes trying to do it the right way! i'm going to show you what i'm made of! >> but gilbert proved to be more than just a violent man. he also showed us a thoughtful, creative side. in the last interview we did with gilbert, he seemed resigned to his fate of spending the rest of his life most likely alone in a small cell. >> at this point, you just look back and realize that the best part of it's over with anyw

but when they get into trouble here, they go to administrative segregation, a lockdown unit where they spend 23 hours a day in their cells. >> segregation is basically the jail within the prison. and that's where some of the more colorful, disruptive types are housed. >> one of those inmates is jonathan hall. serving 40 years for murder. >> take that camera somewhere else. >> our crew first encountered hall while interviewing another inmate a few doors down. >> this is what i think of your story. >> i believe he threw -- well, he threw a liquid substance under the door. it smelled somewhat suspicious, so we're going to go report that. yeah, he threw pee under the door. >> did he? >> yeah. >> better double-check. >> okay. >> we soon learn that hall's anger had really begun the day before. >> he started off yesterday night, he drew a bunch of gang graffiti on the walls. staff attempted to go in there, restrain him, take pictures of the graffiti, he refused, became belligerent. this morning i went up there and talked to him. he decided he would cooperate. we did restrain him, bring him ou

. >> male inmates considered to be the greatest threat are segregated in their own unit, section 20. >> when they are -- when they use a lot of drugs, when they are aggressive, when they're risk for escaping, then they come to section 20. >> burack ersen is a section 20 inmate. >> they say that i put a man through the window like this. >> in a wheelchair? >> in a wheel chair, yes. >> unlike most high-security units in american prisons where inmates are locked in cells 23 hours a day, burack and other section 20 inmates are given access to common areas. but less than 24 hours after our arrival, a fight breaks out between two inmates. surveillance footage would later reveal that burack ersen, shown speaking on a pay phone, was one of the participants. he's suddenly approached by another inmate who has just picked up supplies and food from the prison canteen and just seconds later they take each other to the ground. correctional officers swarm the two men and take burack into custody, while the other inmate picks up his supplies and leaves the scene. burack will be confined to this stri

role in the aryan brotherhood is one of the reasons he has been housed in administrative segregation, a lockdown unitocated on the east side of d cell house. >> what's this i see back here about a hit that he had put out on? >> that was part of the reason why -- that's part of the reason why we sent him over there. >> just his activity and his influence over the population being a leader within the stg group is enough reason to keep him over there. just at that because he can call shots and make things happen and stand back in the shadows. >> the thing i don't understand is, they put me in ad seg thinking i can make a hit. how does that save that person? he's still going to get hit. if i had the authority to do that, which i don't. but my past haunts me. and it's bloody. >> coming up -- >> but as far as the extortion, i think he's lying. >> nick compton's story comes under fire. >>> and later -- >> you miss your mother? >> yes. but i can't bring her back. >> we check in on one of the most memorable inmates to ever appear on "lockup." >> not what they used to be. all of these guys telling on each othe

unit. it's segregation. due to the fact that i'm on idu, i've got to have noncontact visits. i don't get to touch my loved ones. i got to see them through glass and bars. >> as he is escorted to visitation, billy groves has no idea the visitor internal affairs has received a tip on is his girlfriend. >> i woke up like at 5:00, got up, shaved, brushed my teeth, because i'm going to see brandy. she is like the love of my life. so i'm smiling. i'm feeling good. it's a good day. i know everything's going to be perfect. >> groves' girlfriend, brandy graves, has just been picked up on surveillance cameras passing through security. claiming to have a back injury, she arrives in a wheelchair. >> okay, here we go. he's checking her out. checking her shoes. she's moving those legs pretty well. i don't know what we're anticipating on the visit. we've heard anything from tobacco to cell phones to cocaine, marijuana. >> she's refusing to get out of the chair. >> unable to complete their patdown, officers follow prison policy and turn brandy away, throwing a wrench in whelan's plan for a b

he's the ginormous one. >> after spending three nights in segregation they have been returned to unit two, a cell block already populated with several other 211 gang members. >> holloman and wright are two guys that i want to keep together. well, they're known 211 members. you think if you have all of one group in one area it seems like, okay, there's too many of them in one group. but they're actually much more manageable that way. they're happier that way. which makes me happy. well, well, well. my favorite two. so here's what going to happen. ready? >> yeah. >> over there. you know where you're going. where? >> yeah. >> where? >> 23. >> happy? >> to avoid moving too many other inmates holloman and wright will have separate cell assignments but are hoping that sergeant thomas will negotiate. >> there's no way to move sebastian? just escort him down to 2-3? >> look, there's church and there's unicef and the pope and there's me. i've given all i can give. no, i've given all i'm going to give. you two stay together. everybody's happy. i know i am. >> 2-3. >> 2-3. god bless us all. >> l

segregation for investigation. there was new female staff that started over in unit 4, and my job over in unit 4 was the unit clerk. and they were saying that i was spending way too much time in the office with the new female staff, and i explained that i don't spend anymore time in there with her than i did with any other officer. >> but according to rookie office dawn mcdaniel, hansen did more than spend too much time in the office. >> it was kind of over a couple of day period. just, you know, nonchalant questions here and there and, you know, asking me if i had a man, he'd make me happy, and just out of the blue he offered me a ring and said it was mine if i wanted it. and i was pretty sure i didn't want it. so i had to write a report and turn it in to the shift commander. >> hansen was written up for solicitation of staff. a charge the prison takes very seriously. >> as a department and as a facility, we have zero tolerance for staff becoming involved with offenders in any type of personal relationship. some of the problems with new officers is their lack of experience in working in corrections or law enforcem

. >> shock callers are highly ranking members of racially segregated gangs who try to control the inmates within their housing unitsin a jail system where inmates of different races are housed together, that can lead to trouble. >> prisons segregate. jail settings do not. >> we don't segregate by gangs, either. so you could have two bloods and a crip in the same cell. >> for the most part, they've got to get along. they're in a jail system, they're waiting to go to court and be deemed either innocent or guilty. until then, they're going to function in our system the way the sheriff wants it run. >> big bro. i want you to take bam bam. >> sergeant erby leads one of maricopa's special response teams. a s.w.a.t.-like unit of highly trained sheriff's deputies. >> you all want them cuffed and brought out of there? for right now we're going to put them in the holding tank until after we search. >> are we searching first? >> yeah. all right? you've got a green light. all right? let's go. >> now with suspected gang activity on the rise, the team has been called in to clean house. >> how are you doing, man? >> we have ident

chicago and the most integrated part of the city, a city that is notorious and perhaps the segregated big city in the unitedstates. that is what the commission called in 1959 and still was true to different degrees in the late 80s when obama got there. hyde park was the pocket of integration. so he was comfortable there. and you spend every day going to the southside, which was 99% african-american, a sprawling, oblique breech area coverage in terms of personality, which is what he really felt at home for the first time in his life. he was embraced by a group of older black women who sort of took him under his wing and one can and just created a sense for him that he never felt before. but it was incredibly frustrating. community organizing that is 95% of the time and keep banging your head trying to get change done. so during that period, he became a community organizer largely out of his mother's sensibility. you know, she didn't organizing of a different sort trying to help poor women, artisans survive in a male-dominated culture. you know, her beliefs were transferred to him. that's why he did it. but h

. >> while segregated from the rest of the general population, within this unit the inmates are integrated meaning a member of a latin gang could be housed with a white supremacist. >> we try to create a balance throughout the building, you know? so they kind of have to live around each other, but there's not a big congregation of one gang versus another. they'll hang with their certain group. they are in such a confined spaces they're still basically forced to interact. they will do calisthenics. they'll lift water bags, play hand ball, play cards. >> it just brings more tension. they're trying at first to get along. but not everybody thinks that way. there's other gangs that just don't -- just don't want to get along. >> felix solis is a member of occ, ogden's craziest chicanos, a local utah gang. he's serving 11 months for possession of a controlled substance. >> i've never seen so much gang all in one place before. if you're gang-banging, and you're down for your set, you're down for it, no matter what it takes. >> you can tell any time something's going on. any time there's any type o

and we were following a decision of the united states supreme court banning discrimination-or segregation in intrastate travel. and when we started to enter the so-called white waiting room, we were attacked by a group of young white men, beaten and left in a pool of blood. the local police officials came up and wanted to know whether we wanted to press charges. we said, "no, we believe in peace. we believe in love and nonviolence." years later-to be exact, 48 years later-mr. wilson and his son came to my office in washington and said, "mr. lewis, i'm one of the people that beat you. will you forgive me? i apologize." his son had been encouraging his father to do this. his son started crying. mr. wilson started crying. he hugged me. his son hugged me. i hugged them both back. then all three of us stood there crying. was's what the movement about, to be reconciled. amy goodman: when we hear about voting rights today, we don't hear about these struggles that you and so many others that you led went through 50 years ago. rep. john lewis: that's why it is so important for people to understand

it was so fascinating to think of these black kids in the segregated schools reciting the preamble to the constitution of the unitedstates or standing out in the schoolyard, say the pledge of allegiance every day before school. what do we believe? everything so obviously in front of you is wrong. you can't go to the public library. you can't live in certain neighborhoods. you can't go to certain schools, but despite all that you live in an environment of people who said it was still our birthright to be included and continue to push not only to change the laws, but should maintain a belief in our hearts. i think today we sort of thing at all of the work is done with the laws. the heavy lifting for us was done here because the people who raised us to believe that in the nuns who taught us believe that. you know, today i was just down at louisiana state university. there is this tremendous enthusiasm about folk all. i am a diehard nebraska fan myself. so i understand these enthusiasms. but can you imagine i grew up? that's the enthusiasm i had for a country that did not allow us to fully participate. one of the birth

units of pnm. most recently, he's been put on disciplinary segregation for possession of dangerous contraband. >> which one was that? >> shank. >> yeah. >> it was a little piece of plastic about three or four inches long, sharpened at one end, with no handle, no nothing. what are you going to do with it? >> we have to shake down your house and make sure you don't have anything in there. >> as a rule, you shake down whatever cell you go live in. on a major shakedown, they find something in my cell, they write me up, so now i'm stuck here another five years. >> as a rule, you shake down whatever cell you go live in. on a major shakedown, they find something in my cell, they write me up, so now i'm stuck here another five years. >> what was found? >> allegedly a shank. >> a piece about this big. i laugh at that. you know what i mean? what am i going to do? piss someone off with that? if someone was coming at me like that, i laugh at them. yeah, i'm going to feel it, but it is nothing that can damage you. it is nothing to worry about. i would be more scared about a fist in the face than with that. >> today

as it was happening, as we were flying on united, it felt like we were being segregated.37 to the absolute back of the plane with our backs against the walls. no one told us oh, we're doing this for your comfort or safety. then when people tried to lay down and sleep in the empty rows in front of us or to the left of us, they were told by the stewardesses, those rows are blocked. >> well, i know it was a tough day for your family. robert vanderhorst, i hope your son is doing well. we certainly appreciate you coming on, taking the time to talk with us about it. we will talk more with you, we hope, in the future about this case. thank you. >> you're welcome. bye-bye. >> what's blue and red and yellow all over? the electoral map. we break down where the votes are going with a little election map. that's next. that'll be $973.42. ya know, your rates and fees aren't exactly competitive. who do you think i am, quicken loans? [ spokesman ] when you refinance your mortgage with quicken loans, you'll find that our rates and fees are extremely competitive. because the last thing yo

now, united airlines is saying the reason why they did that and almost segregated the family is because the family's privacy and to give them additional space. >> have they decided their next step? >> well, at this point, the family is talking to an attorney. they haven't filed any con plaint letter. haven't filed anything legal. what they are hoping is by bringing this out in the public, but talking about this, and making people aware of what happens with people with disabiliti disabilities, the challenges they face, regardless of whether or not we understand what happened, they say there are many challenges, many burdens that families and the individuals have to deal with. they just hope by talking about it, people will become more aware. >> that's what was running through my head. can't imagine what these families have to deal with already. keep following that story, will you, please? >> you bet. >> thank you very much. >>> moms an dads in the city of chicago being told to make some kind of plans for their kids tomorrow. there probably will be no school and not talking about just a f

segregating. when an individual comes, the first in the asking, where are you from? what is your nationality? that is how to divide and conquer. that is the way the united states is made up. that is how you work. north and south vietnam, for instance. they divide people so that the pressure will not be on them. that is how i see the system. i see it in prison, how they divide inmates. it is scary if inmates unite, and they do not like that. when i first come to prison, it will be a big thing if i went and sat with the blacks. it would be a big think if they caucasian sat with the asians. we only did that one time, where everybody got together, and we got what we wanted. when you unite, you can conquer. [applause] >> next question is for the commander. how can they community-based organization contact the task force for speaking engagements? >> if you call and ask to speak to jim miller. >> is there any effort to formalize the relationship with a community-based organization? >> right now, we do not have that effort in place. it is a good idea, it is something that we have talked about. it is important for us to understand what the cbos are doing. it is

segregating. when an individual comes, the first in the asking, where are you from? what is your nationality? that is how to divide and conquer. that is the way the united states is made up. that is how you work. north and south vietnam, for instance. they divide people so that the pressure will not be on them. that is how i see the system. i see it in prison, how they divide inmates. it is scary if inmates unite, and they do not like that. when i first come to prison, it will be a big thing if i went and sat with the blacks. it would be a big think if