because we don't want a large contingency of people in our segregation units.re disciplinary problems and we try to keep down the violence. if we try to stem some of the violence, we do. >> that step has now been taken with one of suffolk county's most notorious inmates, daniel esdale. >> yeah, man. >> mr. esdale was transferred to another facility for a week. he was here for a long time and sort of taking that known identity for him out of it and placing him somewhere else where he's not so known will be good for him. it was a real win/win for both the department and daniel because he's given another shot in another county. >> the suffolk county jail has almost been a second home to cindy archer but today she'll have another chance to put it behind her. >> i'm leaving. i'm going home. i'm getting discharged. >> you are? >> yeah. i'm excited. i'm going to do the right thing, i'm going to stay clean. and i'm not going to come back. i'll remember where i came from. >> what's the first thing you're going to do when you get outside? >> i'm smoking a cigarette. you

. ♪ >> the segregation unit is a controlled unit.eople in here have assaulted staff in the past or they -- you know, you have overt sexual behavior. you have stealing, you have theft. there are some murderers that we have here. they are violent. you have chaos going on constantly. >> this inmate's rage in general population brought him time in segregation. >> i got in a fight. he had 15 stitches in his eye. i have got an anger problem. i don't really think before i act. and that was the main problem. >> every anarchy of prison that you can think of with adults, we have the same subsystems here. >> with as many as 48 violent teens kept in a confined area of the facility, the segregation unit has a society all its own. ♪ where cell phones and ipods are replaced by a fast-paced secretive practice known as cadillacing. >> sometimes it takes a while. you have to mash your mat up and put a string around it. get some toilet paper wet, get some cotton or paper around it, making it square, wrap a string around it and slide it out your door. s

leaving their cells only for showers and solitary recreation. >> some people will tell you that segregation unit is not the place for people with mental illness because we didn't design that particular unit for treatment. particularly for mental health treatment. we just didn't anticipate us having the numbers we have and going the way it's gone. >> although acute cases are referred to the psychiatric unit at a neighboring correctional institution, the staff in the shu deal with a variety of mental behaviors. >> there are those that are dangerous people, that you have to be very cautious of when you interact with them. >> inmate douglas mccombs, who is serving time for burglary, has spent three months in the security housing unit at wabash. >> since he's been inside the shu, he's been in a stripped cell. when you see a offender come out of the cell, and all he's wearing is his underwear, at that time he was on strip cell. we had trouble with him on about every range we put him on so far. >> say, i got a mental disorder, or they say i do. they say i got a mental disorder. they say schizophrenic d

. >> a week later, prison officials allowed us back into the administrative segregation unit, where we conducted several more interviews without further incident. even george grapf and jonathan hall agreed to interviews and allowed us to take footage of them. a few months later, michael gill was released on parole. >> whoa, whoa, there's ice on the ground. i don't feel comfortable. >>> coming up -- when inmates are left to their own devices, the result can range from bizarre, to horrifying. >> where do you want me? >> get him up front. get him on a gurney. >>> appearances and first impressions are every bit as important behind prison walls as they are on the outside. and one of the most fascinating experiences we have in prison is seeing the different methods inmates use to create their own look. from intimidating to tantalizing to just peculiar. our crews have seen it all. tattoos, however, aren't the only tools in the toolbox. at indiana state prison, billy kyle, serving eight years on a drug dealing charge, likes to strut the yard with his grill. >> i like blue and white diamonds. >

he was housed in the prison's administration segregation unit. >> i had about five or six charges.n -- my most biggest charge is dealing with a teenager, which i was 16 and she was like 15, i believe. i ended up, know what i'm saying, just dealing with both of them, the mom and the daughter. came in 15 years, and i got 15 more. >> originally convicted of rape and theft, wilson earned his second 15-year sentence while behind bars after he brutally beat a corrections officer. >> ended up, cracked his ribs, his jaw. think i did something to his hips, too. broke his collarbone, too. to me it was no thing, it was prison. you don't come here and work here and think it's cake. no, he ain't die. he just won't be a correction officer no more. >> despite his attitude, some at holman are trying to help wilson turn his life around. >> i've known him several years. a long time. he's a young man with a lot of anger problems. he acts out through his anger. that's what we're trying to deal with now. >> i got a bad anger problem, know what i'm saying? angry because i'm in prison. i'm angry because

. >>> the most violent inmates are housed in solitary cells in the administrative segregation unit.iteral prison within a prison. >> these offenders are the worst of the worst for indiana. conduct's what's put them over there. they did assaults, brought drugs into the institution. they're troublemakers, the ones that go around extorting people, blackmailing people, they're the ones that end up over here in the administration segregation unit. >> inmates are confined to their cells for 23 hours per day, with only one hour allotted for exercise. built up tensions can sometimes explode. >> it's aggressive, it's dangerous, it's violent. you can come out on the range and he may have had bad news from home, from his mother and he tries to take it out on you. this is the jungle of indiana state prison. >> in this noisy, hostile environment, our producer spotted an older, white haired man serenely walking the tier showing no fear for his safety. >> what are you doing? are you doing all right? >> good. >> i'm from south bend, indiana, notre dame and just sort of talking to the men. i mean, i

. >> a week later, prison officials allowed us back into the administrative segregation unit, where weducted several more interviews without further incident. even george grapf and jonathan hall agreed to interviews and allowed us to take footage of them. a few months later, michael gill was released on parole. >> whoa, whoa, there's ice on the ground. i don't feel comfortable. >>> coming up -- when inmates are left to their own devices, the result can range from bizarre, to horrifying. >> where do you want me? but you had to leave right now, would you go? man: 'oh i can't go tonight' woman: 'i can't.' hero : that's what expedia asked me. host: book the flight but you have to go right now. hero: (laughs) and i just go? this is for real right? this is for real? i always said one day i'd go to china, just never thought it'd be today. anncr: we're giving away a trip every day. download the expedia app and your next trip could be on us. expedia, find yours. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let yo

. >> he's been in the i.d.u., our disciplinary segregation unit, for 5 1/2 months now.en conduct clear throughout that time. so that told me that he really is motivated. how you doing, man? welcome. >> thank you. >> they got you up today, right? >> wednesday. >> wednesday? >> bailey was recently transferred from i.d.u. to the residential treatment unit or rtu, where he's given more privileges and ongoing counseling. >> other guys like, yeah. we can do it like he did it, you know. >> well, yeah. remember, you're trying to change your path. you've been going down a certain road for many years. my only concern is we have to make sure that you have the skills in this initial part to not get suckered into something that's going to trigger your anger. >> everything is going to be all right. >> yeah, really, i'm excited for you. i think -- if you let us help you and support you, i think this is going to work really good for you. >> mr. bailey has done excellent in maintaining his behavior. when he got here, he decided that he's kind of done fighting, is done being disruptive.

they usually served in segregated units black nurses caring only for black soldiers but they served in africa england the china burma india theater and the pacific. in liberia army nurse sammy rice and her fellow nurses treated patients at the 25th station hospital. prudence burns was a surgical nurse in new guinea and the philippines. before she left the philippines she and her fiancÉ wanted to get married so her fellow nurses not having any fabric for a wedding dress used silk from a parachute to make a wedding dress for her. darrell foster and agnes glass were among a group of nurses who served in the hospital in the clouds at the all blacks staff 235th station hospital in the china burma india theater. before they could treat patients and nurses help set up a hospital installing a wire and drainage system. in england african-american nurses cared for injured not see p.o.w.s. some believe the black nurses were intentionally designed to p.o.w.s a job that other nurses did not want. during the world war ii years generally the side of a military uniform commanded respect and special tr

. >> while the review committee considers his release from pendleton, in the segregation unit, 18-year-oldnmate marcus branch is facing the possibility of spending several more years behind bars. >> i'll probably end up going to court from here. they said i could face 20 years in prison for what i did. what happened was, this staff member was kind of big and stuff like that. he always talked like crazy to me. i forget what he said, but basically, i was like, you know, [ bleep ] your family. he said [ bleep ] your family. i don't know, i always wanted to fight him. but, i got like swinging on him and stuff. i thought he was going to swing back, but he didn't. i kept on swinging on him. >> most of the offenders here are very loud. put themselves out there and they try to act really rough and tough and try to sound it. he's really quiet and can snap in a moment. >> hit the ground. i was thinking i'll show him mercy. so i left him alone. >> we talked about that with the staff a lot. i call it a kind of total awareness thing that they have to constantly pay attention to everything that's going

. >> i was on the idu, the segregation unit, and a couple of guys up there that i don't get along with are threatening to burn me up again. i got another one admitting to me that he's got hiv and hepatitis and telling me how he's going to mix up some hot water with feces and throw that on me so i catch the disease. so everybody that comes past my cell door, i say, these are the guys that are trying to hurt me and kill me. i said, i need to get off this unit. >> we have another high number of offenders who will self-mutilate and cut to get their way. officers don't come to their cell fast enough, they want a tv, they are having a problem with something, so they will cut in order to get somebody's attention. >> i'll pull out a razor blade and i cut myself right there. can you see that? right there. them little circles is where i had the stitches. when i did that, oh, i got everybody's attention then, everybody and their [ bleep ] mama wanted to talk to me and find out why did i it. i didn't care win just wanted to make it home alive, man. >> we're going up to "g" unit to talk to offender

so both peppe and the other inmate have been sent to segregation, the 23-hour lockdown unit, for a period>> no one to play anything with, cards, checkers. anything, you know? isolation is not a nice place to be. they let you out for a shower, recreation a few times a week, and that's it. otherwise everything comes right to the cell. your meals are delivered here. caseworker comes by. nurse comes by. everything is delivered here. it's pretty dull. >> peppe's time in segregation might be even more stressful. he and the mother of his 16-month-old twins are having problems. >> me and my girlfriend, the babies mother, are not getting along right now. whatever she decides, she decides and i'll walk away from her. i would like to grow them up and everything, but if it's not meant to be with her, it's not meant to be with her. >> but peppe still has some hope for the future. >> i have had quite a life. really quite a life. i want to enjoy whatever life i have left, and i hope to return back to society, never do any more crime and just be at peace with the world. >> ace, hearts. >> now you re-ente

minimum security facility but after several fights with other inmates was transferred to the segregation unit at tennessee prison for women. >> warden said i was a threat to security of his institution, that i was a threat to his inmates, that he didn't have a program for me, my behavior was too aggressive. >> her sons are living with family while she serves four years for aggravated assault and a concurrent sentence for forgery and she's concerned one of her boys might be following her example. >> first he stole like a dollar from his teacher and then he's stealing money from his grandma and i got on the phone and i asked him, why are you stealing money from grandma? he said, well, i was stealing $1 and $5 from her and she never knew so i thought i would take a $20. he got in trouble for that and the whole family came down and did like this intervention thing and so told him not to steal from grandma. instead of stealing from grandma, he stole from the next door neighbor. i am having to deal with my crimes, forgery, it's the same thing, i stole the money, i forged a check. i look at myself a

he has spent most of his time at holman in the administrative segregation unit. >> he's an impulsive a guy. he's violent. he's in here for violence and apparently the time has not taught him any differently. >> can i be rehabilitated? yeah, i could be rehabilitated. if i could figure out how to get over the hatred. because i have a lot of hatred. i have a lot of hatred for people in general, for society. >> that includes warden culliver. >> he's a narcissist. he's super serious. he loves attention. he loves to micromanage [ bleep ]. and he loves to give everybody at his mercy a hard time. he's trying to be somebody. he's trying to define his identity off the demoralization and dehumanization of other people. trying to boost his own ego up. >> how would you describe steven parker? what kind of inmate is he? >> crazy. he's a nut. i mean, no more, no less. he's not a person that's very intelligent. >> culliver combats predatory behavior and other problems by knowing his inmates well and enforcing his rules. even the smaller ones, like being clean shaven. >> that's how you shave? >> see

. >> morgan was moved to the segregation unit pending an investigation into his role in the fight.but he denied any involvement, even when confronted by deputy warden joni brown. >> they said i was involved, jodi, and i wasn't involved. >> okay. but you know what i told you we caught it all on videotape. >> but i wasn't in the fight or involved in the fight or nothing. >> so you stood there, you watched them clean up the blood -- >> no, i did not stand there and watch them clean up the blood. >> well, the videotape has a little bit different take on it. >> the video doesn't lie. you can clearly see peaches trying to clean up the aftermath of this crime. >> coming up -- >> i want to show you the video. >> okay. >> okay? >> kenneth morgan is confronted by the evidence. >> and who is this? >> that's me. >> and then -- >> hi guys. >> by an inmate who just might take his place. >> mr. peach, you've got competition. >> he don't have a beard. so then the little tiny chipmunks go all the way up... ♪ [ female announcer ] when your swapportunity comes, take it. ♪ what? what? what? [ female a

units. it's done everywhere. there's no reason to be segregation. >> thanks to lisa for the report.is not the first building in the city to have separate entrances but the developer here should be following the spirit of affordable housing laws and the assemblyman doesn't think that. >> the new best friend in the white house. we'll show you next. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. you should not start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell

segregation. a 23-hour-a-day lockup unit for inmates who violate prison rules. >> i was taking him to north segregation to lock him up in our seg unit. >> when the inmate turns on him, morgan tightens his grip. but the situation would soon get much more intense. >> that's when he tried to pull away from me and turned around on me. >> he's grabbing on me. >> that's when i tried to secure him to the ground until i could get more security help. >> no, no, no. no, no, no. huh-uh. i'm going to walk. i'm going to walk. >> those particular charges that i charged the inmate with were insolence, disobeying a direct order, assault, he attempted to spit on me as well as turn around on me. and this inmate will go to an adjustment hearing, which is panel of hearing officers, and he will plead his case against my disciplinary report that i give him, and they will do whatever is just. >> while this inmate received an extended term in segregation, combative inmates always risk suffering physical consequences as well. wherever inmates congregate, common areas and cellblocks, the yard, or the cafeteria, there's usually

segregation. a lockdown unit located on the east side of d cell house. >> what's this memo i see back here about a that he had put out on -- >> that was part of the reason why -- that's part of the reason why we sent him over there. >> just his activity and his influence over the population, being a leader within the stg group is enough reason to keep him over there. just at that. because he can call shots and make things happen and stand back in the shadows. >> the thing i don't understand is they put me in ad seg thinking i ordered a hit on somebody. but how does that save that person? if i'm in ad seg, he's still going to get hit. if i had the authority to do that, which i don't. but my past haunts me. and it's bloody. >> coming up -- >> as far as the extortion, i think he's lying. >> nick compton's story comes under fire. and later -- >> you miss your mother? >> yes. >> we check in on one of the most memorable inmates to ever appear on "lockup." and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that's why hp built a new kind of server. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 7

. >> male inmates considered to be the greatest threat are segregated in their own unit, section 20. >> when they are -- when they use a lot of drugs, when they are aggressive, when they're risk for escaping, then they come to section 20. >> burack ersen is a section 20 inmate. >> they say that i put a man through the window like this. >> in a wheelchair? >> in a wheel chair, yes. >> unlike most high-security units in american prisons where inmates are locked in cells 23 hours a day, burack and other section 20 inmates are given access to common areas. but less than 24 hours after our arrival, a fight breaks out between two inmates. surveillance footage would later reveal that burack ersen, shown speaking on a pay phone, was one of the participants. he's suddenly approached by another inmate who has just picked up supplies and food from the prison canteen and just seconds later they take each other to the ground. correctional officers swarm the two men and take burack into custody, while the other inmate picks up his supplies and leaves the scene. burack will be confined to this stri

unit. it's segregation. due to the fact that i'm on idu, i've got to have noncontact visits. i don't get to touch my loved ones. i got to see them through glass and bars. >> as he is escorted to visitation, billy groves has no idea the visitor internal affairs has received a tip on is his girlfriend. >> i woke up like at 5:00, got up, shaved, brushed my teeth, because i'm going to see brandy. she is like the love of my life. so i'm smiling. i'm feeling good. it's a good day. i know everything's going to be perfect. >> groves' girlfriend, brandy graves, has just been picked up on surveillance cameras passing through security. claiming to have a back injury, she arrives in a wheelchair. >> okay, here we go. he's checking her out. checking her shoes. she's moving those legs pretty well. i don't know what we're anticipating on the visit. we've heard anything from tobacco to cell phones to cocaine, marijuana. >> she's refusing to get out of the chair. >> unable to complete their patdown, officers follow prison policy and turn brandy away, throwing a wrench in whelan's plan for a b

disciplinary officer hale, who will determine how much time they will each get in segregation -- a solitary-confinement unit or, among other things, they're locked in their cells 23 hours per day. >> they're not allowed visits. they're not allowed to go to the gym. they're not allowed to have books. the only thing they can have is legal material that pertains to their case. >> narrator: most inmates don't like to fight, but some relish violence. >> i love to fight. excuse my french [bleep] i want to fight. [ laughs ] >> are you good at it? >> fighting? i've never been beat. call me the white tyson. >> narrator: brian voltz is currently serving six months for an act of violence, though the victim was anything but a heavyweight. he admits an argument with the mother of one of his sons got out of hand, but denies injuring her. still, he pled guilty to domestic abuse and returned to louisville metro once again. >> 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19 times he's been in jail. you can pretty much say he's grown up inside the facility. >> i started coming in this jail when i was 18, and i've probably been back three

segregated. it's sort of like sunday morning in the united states, the most segregated time in america.son is probably more segregated than that. i actually was part of the only interracial, like, cell group, so i had a black cellie when i first came in. consequently, the only people i knew for my first week were black, and i sat down at a lunch table with that group and i was told in no uncertain terms by a white man afterwards, you need to stop sitting there and sit with your own kind. so i had several, you know, very tense experiences in prison, but many of them revolved around race. >> there are two americas. an america that thinks it has nothing to do with the criminal justice system, that this thing churns in the background, it never affects their life. don't know anyone who's been to prison. have never gotten on a bus to go three hours to visit their loved one there, never been at a midnight arraignment down at the criminal court. don't know what a parole violation is, have never talked to a c.o. there's another part of america in which that is life. in and out of prison. people

segregation. dr. king is in jail in st. augustine, florida, and in that one summer, partisan politics turned upside down in the united states. the democrats went to the party of south segregation that they had been for a century. usurping states' rights and a sign of tyranny in the government. the first republicans popped up in the south, and the party of lincoln gave way to the party of presumptive white people, so it turned partisan politics on its head in one summer. between the far reaches of texas and the atlantic ocean in 1964, the very first ones came up. the chapter right in the middle shows how the power of race and the power of this movement really drove partisan politics in ways that people do not appreciate today. that is part of our misremembering. we do not want to remember how powerful a force race can be in our politics. tavis: this was really one of the greatest movements, but what does your study of this era say about the through line that allows us to go from moment to momentum to movement. you can talk about drones or others. >> that is a wonderful question. that is what i talked to my students about. i

. >> my question is why do the affordable units have to be segregated apart from the condos the wealthy can afford to buy? it is 2 buildings. that again are conjoined but treated separate you have 2 entrances. condo owner is getting tack breaks by having those more affordable apartment buildings that's why he did a mixed use building we asked if people thank you is fair that the owners do what they want. >> that is discrimination it is no different from what happened in the past where people of a color had to sit at the back of the bus or not enter place now it is income discrimination. i don't see a problem. i suspect those who are paying market price will pay for amenities the subsidized renters will not pay for much the shock go to face book/myfoxdc. that is our comment on that tonight much [laughter]. >> all right gentlemen the next time your wife or girlfriend or mom or sister want a new pair of shoes i will not say this. you may want to refer to this. i don't agree. okay. i will say that. a survey some people surveyed shows how many women have shoes that never get worn. >> wait yo

i wrote was about a much lesser-known part of that story, which was out of that experience a segregated unit of american soldiers called the 447 regimentaregimenta l combat team was formed out of volunteers. about half of whom came out of the camps and this unit went on to become the single most decorated unit for its size in world war ii. and writing this book i was struck as i am sure you are by the fact that the very men whose families and in some cases themselves had been treated in the worst possible fashion by their own country nonetheless volunteered to fight for the very country that betrayed them. and i saw in this a story about what it means to be a citizen because we have had a lot of talk about the formal process of citizenship but being a citizen is more than taking an oath and meeting the formal requirements of citizenship. one of the suggestions that came out in the last panel was that this process takes several years and it often does but it also takes a commitment on the part of the individuals that is exemplified by what the members of the 442 did but can be found across al

he always bristled at the idea that in the capital of the united states there were segregated schools segregated restaurants and he couldn't even go into a certain store and try on a coat. >> a very important part of the story -- and i hope i'll explore this more with ed nation and all that we do following the track of this with ed nation following the track of this book is the fall of dunbar after the riots and, you know, when it should have been at its height, it became a neighborhood school and really fell victim to all of the pathologies of the neighborhood. >> yeah, it was a very sad time. >> and now we're trying to, you and others, are trying to really lead to the rebirth. we've shown some pictures as well of the new dunbar. >> yeah, this is the one from 1977. this is the one that will be torn down. this brand new $122 million gorgeous high school is going to go up. there you see it right there. there's always been this seed of what old dunbar was, even in the hardest times. everybody realizes that is a seed that needs to be watered and encouraged to grow again. i think with thi

pioneered the use of gandhi and nonviolence as a way of calling attention to segregation and other forms of racism in the unitedtates. so he organized a freedom ride long before the freedom rides that we know about from the 1960's. againstion to his work nuclear weapons, when the montgomery bus boycott started at the end of 1955 and word traveled north and this was went down toustin montgomery alabama, introduced himself to dr. king, and begin a process of -- began a process of entering and tutoring him so that gaudy and nonviolence would become central to have dr. king conduct these freedom struggles. brought up the plans for -- southern cone pitched in christian leadership conference. by 1963, when there was a convergence on this idea of arching on washington, rustin was better prepared than anyone to be the organizer of that event. >> early in his life, bayard rustin challenged segregation, arrested from a movie theater balcony. outsider,""brother rustin response to how he dealt with racism. >> i went inside, and could do believe it? there was absolute consternation. that was the first time i knew that they

. >> my question is: why do the affordable units have to be segregated apart from the condos the wealthy entrances. >> another building with a fancier front entrance. >> isn't this some what common? you pay high prices you get fancy stuff. on the other side you don't get fancy stuff? >> if it is two different buildings, perhaps we are emotionally responding to what it sounds like. it is a talker. >> yes, it is. time is 8:43 on this tuesday morning. coming up next, firsthand account on the march on washington. >> holly, good morning. >> good morning. they have a wonderful exhibit about the march on washington. fifty years later, this man is heading up the celebration. we have a special day planned to teach your kids, all the details next on "fox 5 morning news" stay with us.  >> we continue to share facts and information about the march in washington. women, though a large force in civil rights movement by the time the march happened in 1963 had no formal speaking role. two managed to get before the microphones, left, daisy baits, first lady of little rock. naacp organi

the schools in the united states are segregated now as they were in the late '60s, which is insane.don't address that anymore. we talk about how attitudes are changing. i'm not sure attitudes have changed that much. rhetoric has changed. the racism remains. and blacks are now farther behind than they were several years ago economically. >> i think attitudes can change. and at the same time, the structure of the society that was built on like basically a racial case system can remain. so the perception of blacks -- i'm sure a lot of people would say i'm not a racist, i have no ill toward black people but still they could -- they can subconsciously recognize blackness as being something they to want stay away from. >> that's racist. >> but it's not -- >> if you see black people as lesser beings, as genetically inferi inferior, so i seo think most whites see blacks -- >> i think racist is a too broad of a term to capture what we're talking about. >> but i -- >> and even this-n that -- i need to ask this question. why are we so scared to say that people's views of me seeing a person of

directly or indirectly helped to bury the policy and the issues of segregation for a large part of the people who were living in the united states at that time and for many of these marchers here today, people like the holloway brothers of mobile, alabama who grew up as children in that segregated environment. i spoke with them on the passage way earlier. >> it was rough. segregation was alive and well. it was hard for black people to stick together to achieve things because of the violence. the bombing that was going on in birmingham and medgar evers and all these things were going on at that time, so your parents was a little reluctant to let you participate, because they knew the consequences, you could probably lose your life. >> there's work in progress, and there's a lot of work that's left to be done and that's up to us to pass on to our -- those of my great nephews. being a part of the movement and the action, you know, and to volunteer and help your fellow man. >> reporter: as the crowd passes by here in different segments you hear different chants. no justice, no peace, jobs, not jail, another segment chanting,

directly or indirectly helped to bury the policy and the issues of segregation for a large part of the people who were living in the united states at that time and for many of these marchers here today, people like the holloway brothers of mobile, alabama who grew up as children in that segregated environment. i spoke with them on the passage way earlier. >> it was rough. segregation was alive and well. it was hard for black people to stick together to achieve things because of the violence. the bombing that was going on in birmingham and medgar evers and all these things were going on at that time, so your parents was a little reluctant to let you participate, because they knew the consequences, you could probably lose your life. >> there's work in progress, and there's a lot of work that's left to be done and that's up to us to pass on to our -- those of my great nephews. being a part of the movement and the action, you know, and to volunteer and help your fellow man. >> reporter: as the crowd passes by here in different segments you hear different chants. no justice, no peace, jobs, not jail, another segment chanting,

king called equal votes and equal souls in the united states, not just race relations, end of segregationated the white south, created the sunbelt, created all kinds of rights for women people take for granted, the disabled. basically race has always been the chief barrier but also the gateway when people deal forthrightly with race it pays other benefits. now 2013 we have benefits that make us optimistic we can tackle tough problems but our politics is in gridlock largely because we don't deal with race and acknowledge what we've done. >> it struck me. you said this. the first thing i thought of was eric holder's line from three years ago calling us a nation of cowards when it comes to the issue of race. lonnie you're building a whole museum you're hoping launches uncomfortable conversations. you think we need to have an uncomfortable conversation about race right now? >> there's no doubt race has been and continues to be the most important issue that divides us. for us we ought to take advantage of the fact the smithsonian is a place people come to engage and educate. so for us it's cru

units of pnm. most recently, he's been put on disciplinary segregation for possession of dangerous contraband. >> whichone was that? >> shank. >> yeah. >> it was a little piece of plastic about three or four inches long, sharpened at one end, with no handle, no nothing. what are you going to do with it? >> we have to shake down your house and make sure you don't have anything in there. >> as a rule, you shake down whatever cell you go live in. on a major shakedown, they find something in my cell, they write me up, so now i'm stuck here another five years. >> what was found? >> allegedly a shank. a piece about this big. i laugh at that. you know what i mean? what am i going to do? piss someone off with that? if someone was coming at me like that, i laugh at them. yeah, i'm going to feel it, but it is nothing that can damage you. it is nothing to worry about. i would be more scared about a fist in the face than with that. >> today alejandro finds out if he completed his segregation time. >> hi, alejandro. >> hello. >> you know you're off disciplinary status today, right? but you also know you're going to

and other organizations decided to do exactly what you suggested and go to the united nations and raise issues about segregationthe u.s. and racial description, they framed it in the context of human rights. however, human rights as a label tied toeen as too leftist politics and perhaps too much tied to communist politics. so it increasingly sell out and usage by civil rights leaders and they began to use the terms civil rights more so. but human rights has always been at the center of many of the ways in which people have framed the struggle of african- agoicans and in the 1960 the, people actually did go to the united nations, which is why again i think johnson, president johnson was so concerned was because the soviet union and newly african countries were raising criticism that u.s. was violating the human rights of african-americans. just expected to start around 9:00 today. it is the 50th anniversary of the commemoration of the march on washington with activities planned and washington, d.c. at the lincoln memorial, the washington monument. we will show you pictures from that as we get going. jesse is fro

republican you would think the only black sten tore and united states senator from south carolina one of the states that was the hotbed of segregation during the civil rights movement would have been invited. i know senator scott and i know that he would have moved heaven and earth in order to be there if he were invited. >> scott wrote a column where he said the march shows that americans need to come together and continue to moving forward. >>> johnny football suspended for half a game by the ncaa. texas a&m quarterback and heisman trophy winner johnny man zell will reportedly sit this saturday. he was investigated for an autograph scandal. the ncaa says there was no evidence manziel took money but violated the rules by signing certain photographs. meet justin timberlake's biggest fan a brain surgery survivor. he was on his way to a radio interview when he met her mom and told him about her daughter. he asked mede item immediately meet her. even though the singer's security said no pictures she asked and timberlake said yes joking he had to make it her screen saver and she did eventually. >> very cute. the company if fisker back f

in it, in a very honest, raw way , you described what segregation was like in the united states.if you could just take us through some of those memories now. theell, shortly before march on washington, i had just been in oxford, mississippi. i became the first african- american woman reporter at the washington post in october, 1961. i had a four-year apprenticeship in the black press, including jet magazine. after being at the post for a couple of years, for actually just one year, this broke. i had grown up in the south. i have been exposed to racism much of my life and had gone to segregated schools from elementary through high school. but i wasn't prepared for mississippi. think mississippi kind of epitomizes segregation. place wherewas a apartheid rained. there is no other word for it. mississippi,ed in en route to mississippi, i was at -- with a photographer. we arrived and as we moved into oxford, we were stopped by men with gun racks on top of their trucks. some of theeasons natural apprehension i had going into mississippi was quelled was because i was with ernest withers

segregating. when an individual comes, the first in the asking, where are you from? what is your nationality? that is how to divide and conquer. that is the way the united states is made up. that is how you work. north and south vietnam, for instance. they divide people so that the pressure will not be on them. that is how i see the system. i see it in prison, how they divide inmates. it is scary if inmates unite, and they do not like that. when i first come to prison, it will be a big thing if i went and sat with the blacks. it would be a big think if they caucasian sat with the asians.

so the united states has a lot more teen child-bearing, a lot more entrenched poverty. we have a lot of segregation of a lot of our poor population, which i think is a really important result that jumps out in raj's paper. but i don't think we have a really good sense at all of how to weight this or that, how much is institutional differences, how much of it is demographics, how much of it is economic growth, how much of it is culture and values. >> i know that you don't look at the cross-country comparison as much, but what is your sense about why is it that other countries seem to do well? >> well, you know what's fascinating to me is that it's true denmark has much higher mobility rates than the u.s. and so does canada, but there are places within the u.s. that have mobility rates that are quite comparable to these countries. so i think the fact that there's such variation within the u.s. potentially provides a lens into why there are these differences across countries. so if i would offer hypothesis, it would come back to early education or school quality more generally, things related to segre

segregating. when an individual comes, the first in the asking, where are you from? what is your nationality? that is how to divide and conquer. that is the way the united states is made up. that is how you work. north and south vietnam, for instance. they divide people so that the pressure will not be on them. that is how i see the system. i see it in prison, how they divide inmates. it is scary if inmates unite, and they do not like that. when i first come to prison, it will be a big thing if i went and sat with the blacks. it would be a big think if they caucasian sat with the asians. we only did that one time, where everybody got together, and we got what we wanted. when you unite, you can conquer. [applause] >> next question is for the commander. how can they community-based organization contact the task force for speaking engagements? >> if you call and ask to speak to jim miller. >> is there any effort to formalize the relationship with a community-based organization? >> right now, we do not have that effort in place. it is a good idea, it is something that we have talked about. it is important for us to understand what the cbos are doing. it is