>> i totally agree with judge seidlin. it is a defense that rarely wins. you have all of the ex experts conclude that he is insane at the time i recently had h a case about a year ago where all of the experts said that the guy was insane at the time, but the prosecution argued fact versus opinion, and they found him guilty of murder in the first degree, and he has been sentenced to life. >> i wanted to talk about the text message with chris kyle that he sent to the friend chad littlefield while driving to the range, and they were both sitting in the front seat and ruth was ride manage the back, and he said, this dude is straight up nuts and is the defense using his own word ss to mount the defense? >> i think that he is using his own words, and not only that but it was his conduct not just typing the words, but he said i took him under my wings, because hi mother told me that he was having problems adjusting to the real world since he had come back pr war. and saying that a man is totally nuts and then you take him to the range with a gun, woo! that seems

first judge seidlin and then judge hatchett. >> well first they had them with the shripe and puttings artifacts around the home, and in case, the judge said i want the home just how it was when the crime took place and therefore they are covering up or removing the objects. >> removing the baby pictures and the memorabilia and a new piece of furniture that was not there in 2013 and they want it to look as much adds 2013 as possible. does it bother you at all or make a difference to you, judge hatchett? >> no it that is exactly what should happen don. for the prosecutors, they had pictures taken of his home right after the murder was committed, and so they can go back and re recapture that unlike the defense attorneys in o.j. they were not a able to get away with staging this home. it cannot be staged, and it has to be as close as possible to what happened in 2013. >> do the jurors need a tour in this football star's home, because if they need the proximity, they can get into the bus all of them and they don't have to go into house, and here is the home and the murder scene, and can't

i am joined by judge larry seidlin who presided over to the anna nicole trial, and also judge hatchett this. >> it is important many this time that you are testifying to are retain control of your emotions and not the cry while you are testifying about any photo that you are being shown. do you understand that? >> yes, ma'am. >> judge hatchett, have you ever? >> it is a grieving mother. >> i can understand try to kon control your emotion, and don, i have never ever seen that. and i have a had a lot of family members crying in the courtroom, and you can just cannot say that to a grieving mother. i don't foet't know how you expect that don, and i wonder what she would have done the if she started to cry, and she is not going to be putting her in jail and put a fine on her. and i mean, i can't imagine that you could do anything. >> and judge seidlin, you famous famously teared up when you came down with the anna nicole smith decision. and we saw odin lloyd's mother cry in court, and emotions play a role in court particularly in a jury trial. >> that is a harsh admonishment that the judge