you're not the only john seigenthaler in the world. i am a john seigenthaler. your grandson is a john seigenthaler. you have to do something to get that down." >> i should disclaim, it is odd that this all came together that you thought it was the most difficult time. john seigenthaler called me after that. he had seen the editor jimmy wales and wanted to know how we get a hold of him. i said don't worry about it. it will pass. clearly, he did worry about it. why was it that big of a deal? >> this is the point in which wikipedia became self aware and realized this was not just a fun project anymore of building an encyclopedia. this is the point of which wikipedia became aware of what people added to their encyclopedia had a material affect on the topics and individuals especially he were covered. what happened after this, with in days the seigenthaler's became news, wikipedia introduced a guideline, a new policy that is important. it means that if you're going to add any information to any page that may affect the reputation of an individual one way or another,

i'm john seigenthaler >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer direction is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates, "lockup." >> we are working with serious, dangerous criminals. >> if you like being told what to do, if you like being told when to eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, if you like taking a chance of getting your ass kicked by inmates or police, if you like that type of thing, then this is the place for you. >> in the heart of new york city is one of the country's most notorious jails, riker's island. its history has been filled with violence, its facilities overcrowded and deadly. we first visited riker's back in 1999, when the commissioner of the new york department of correction was bernard kerik. his get-tough on crime policies have continued today. the new york city department of corrections says the result is a remarkable 90% decrease in violence at riker's, which has led to a substantial reduction in the inmate population. five years later, our cameras

i'm john seigenthaler >>> newt fails to shine in the sunshine state. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in florida. i'm leading off tonight with trading places. if newt gingrich loses the republican nomination, we're going to look back at last night's debate as the reason why. romn romney, not gingrich, was the aggressor, sparring and punching, looking more like newt. mitt floored newt with this one. >> i know that sounds like an enormous revelation, but have you checked your own investments? you also have investments that invest in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> have you checked your own investments? what a line. newt had no answer. mitt's performance last night once again makes him the favorite to win florida next tuesday. for now, the favorite to win the nomination. but it wasn't all good news for romney. he seems to have trouble with telling the truth, basic stuff like when he said all his investments are held by a blind trust. not necessarily. or when he defended his vote for paul sagas. tonight, mitt romney meets the trut

i'm john seigenthaler. >>> 911 emergency. ♪ >>> derwin brown was a man at the top of his game. popular police captain, father and grandfather. >> i felt like nothing could ever happen to him. he was my superhero. >> three days before he was to become sheriff, he was shot to death in his driveway. >> there were things going on in that sheriff's department that those of us in law enforcement had no idea about. >> things that would be revealed by a stunning turn of events. >> the investigation was dead in the water. >> it was a mystery with more twists and turns. >> did you do it? >> did you do it? >> than a detective novel. >> i said, this whole thing is not real. this is not even happening. >> there was the most remarkable murder case that i can remember. >> in this hour, who shot the sheriff and why? people seemed easily drawn to derwin brown. >> he was a man who was unafraid, honest, caring, and was concerned about more than himself and his family. >> brown was raised on new york's long island. >> he was the best brother you could have. he was very protective. he introduced me

i'm john seigenthaler. >>> running through fire, sliding through mud, jumping into vats of icy cold water. one man's crazy idea for an obstacle course turned into an incredibly successful business. that's coming up next on "your business." >> small businesses are revitalizing the economy. and american express open is here to help. that's why we are proud to present "your business" on msnbc. >> hi. i'm j.j. ramburg and welcome to "your business" where we give you tips and advice to help your business grow. the culture of a company may be one of the most important yet most overlooked areas for business small business owners. having a strong culture helps you hire the right people, put out the right marketing messages, and steer your company with a working compass. today we meet someone who has mastered these ideals. the next story is by far one of the most fun that i've done in the past six years. you'll see why. ♪ >> the challenge. got to challenge yourself. that's why we're all with no clothes. >> three, two, one! >> new jersey. mid-november. 42-degree weather. and 10,000 people who are a

i'm john seigenthaler >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates. "lockup." >> this place is infested with child molesters, rapists and murderers. >> you happen to be in the most beautiful place in the world, as a matter of fact, this place should be a resort instead of a prison. >> you are surrounded, you know. you're trapped in more than one way. >> i'm training myself always physically and psychologically to be able to combat these officers. >> if a guy comes up all belligerent, that's what he's going to get back. if he wants to dance we'll dance. >> you think you're a bad ass? >> not at all. >> don't cop attitude. >> i'm not copping attitude. >> it's supposed to be a no-no but it happens. >> i want a guy that wants me to be feminine and all the things that he should want and get if he's with a woman. >> this is cell 13 downstairs. >> i read about that. i killed mommy and i'm getting out in 20 years, blah, blah, blah. >> i pulled up the sheet and wrapped it around his head and said, say hi

i'm john seigenthaler >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons into a world of chaos and danger. now, the scenes you've never seen. "lockup: raw." >>> behind every murder is a motive. >> they're crying on the phone, they're screaming, telling me that their daughter cannot spend another day around this guy, they're afraid of what he's going to do. >> i felt that the person was more like a man than like a woman. this was after we got married. >> behind every murder is a story. >> i went to trial. columbine had already happened like five months before that. there were quite a few similarities between my case and that, like i was wearing a trench coat. >> and behind some murders, a person you thought you could trust. >> i just remember when i woke up, first thing i said was, today is the day. >>> more americans are incarcerated today than ever before, and now when we go behind the walls of maximum security prisons, we see a greater cross section of inmates than ever. >> i mean, obviously they'r

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i'm john seigenthaler >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates. "lockup." ♪ 15 to life, doing 15 to life ♪ ♪ you've got the browns and the whites against the blacks ♪ ♪ the first rule of the game is to watch your back ♪ ♪ it's either kill or be ♪ ♪ killed if you're scared ♪ ♪ then make a knife ♪ ♪ and the next mother [ muted ] will ♪ find me some steel lay in a strap ♪ ♪ like a mercenary death trap ♪ ♪ because if i got to do time ♪ ♪ i would rather do it like a real mother [ muted ] ♪ ♪ be do you for mine ♪ >> who is going to stab who? who's going to kill who? who's going to beat who bad? >> guys stomping each other on the head, knocking each other unconscious. >> what we got over here, anything? >> escort! >> you have to join a gang. you have no choice. ♪ 15 to life ♪ ♪ doing 15 to life ♪ ♪ 15 to life ♪ ♪ 15 to life ♪ ♪ doing 15 to life ♪ doing 15 to life. that's it. >> in an isolated part of california's central valley is corcoran state prison, one of the state's largest maximum security

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i'm john seigenthaler >>> there are 2 million people behind bars in america.t hour, we open the gates. lockup. >> my particular interest is mostly in latchkey kids. >> i would identify my victims by finding women alone in their home. >> so, i just told myself, i'm going to kill her. >> what do we do with society's monsters? the people who for now are too violent, too sick to live on the outside? >> it is male and female voices and knowing what i know, it bothered me. >> we will take you on an extraordinary trip inside of the california hospital for the criminally insane. >> we treat people. we do not cure anybody. >> how do they keep more than 1,000 patients under control? should we lock them up and throw away the key, or is there a better way? >> i don't think that we should stop trying. this is somebody's son that we have here. >>> it is a dilemma that judges are facing all across the country, what to do with people who have served their time, but clearly remain a danger to themselves and others. in california the answer is often a state hospital. it is a so

as i was told the story, he had -- john seigenthaler of the tennessean, the editor publisher there formallyl larry king live. i am not sure whether he set it up or just told them to ask the question. ross perot said he was going on larry king live to talk about the economy. he made an impulsive statement. he never thought it would go anywhere. the truth of the matter is he had been thinking about this for quite a long time. even three months before, he made a speech in tampa to a group called "throw the hypocritical rascals out." a man down there was trying to do a draft campaign. there were signs "draft perot." 2000 people listening to him speak down there. he was curious about it. how do you get on 50 ballots? in fact, he asked some of his staff people to do some research to see how you get on the ballot. even mulling it over in his head for a good while, it was a surprise to most of the country. i think he had been doing it for a good while. >> but his challenge to his supporters to get him on the ballot became the subject of carolyn barta's book that she contends is all about the people