we've discussed sellafield and the problems we had in relation to sellafield and that is the picture,atin and put on as many silly programmes and clips as you want, but let's look at the issues and the difference between the two seats and the fights we had. we had a pivotal moment in stoke and i think you should talk about that too. we will, thank you. labour drew some comfort in stoke — where the labour candidate gareth snell saw off the new ukip chairman paul nuttall — albeit with a reduced share of the vote. cut their majority in half and we've unified the party like never before and we'll go forward now. ukip‘s time will come. but stoke was dubbed the brexit capital in the referendum, where working class voters had voted in their droves to leave the eu. so why did ukip not do better, and with their new leader at the helm? with us is neil hamilton, welsh assembly member, and leader of ukip in the assembly. could you explain why you did so badly in stoke? we didn't do badly. as you said a moment ago, we had a modest increase in our vote. we got 25% of the vote and beat the conservat

in copeland's coastal town of whitehaven, sellafield employs thousands.unts against his party. though voting labour here is an old habit. well, i'm going to stay with labour, because ijust think it's for the working people. and all my family has always voted labour. because of the workforce at sellafield, and what it creates in the wider community, and what mr corbyn said about nuclear power, they've got to think of themselves. and for the long—term future of sellafield, it possibly will go conservative. holding this seat looks tough. losing here or in stoke means talk of existential crisis for labour. rejected by once loyal voters who now feel left out and left behind. john pienaar, bbc news, whitehaven. and to see a full list of candidates for both the stoke—on—trent central and copeland by elections, visit our website at bbc.co.uk/politics. a brief look at some of the day's other news stories. the uk's biggest domestic energy supplier, british gas, has said it will freeze its prices until the summer. however, scottish power has announced that its custo

in copeland's coastal town of whitehaven, sellafield employs thousands.n to nuclear power counts against his party. though voting labour here is an old habit. well, i'm going to stay with labour, because i just think it's for the working people. and all my family has always voted labour. because of the workforce at sellafield, and what it creates in the wider community, and what mr corbyn said about nuclear power, they've got to think of themselves. and for the long—term future of sellafield, it possibly will go conservative. holding this seat looks tough. losing here or in stoke means talk of existential crisis for labour. rejected by once loyal voters who now feel left out and left behind. john pienaar, bbc news, whitehaven. and to see a full list of candidates for both the stoke—on—trent central and copeland by—elections, visit our website. french police have arrested four people in montpellier on suspicion of planning an imminent terrorist attack. the three men and a 16—year—old girl were detained after they bought bomb—making chemicals. police said t

copeland depends on sellafield, jeremy corbyn has opposed nuclear power.ite a lot to do with it, because jeremy corbyn said he didn't want it. he did do a u—turn on that, but who knows. the men have done no good when they've been prime ministers, so maybe a woman changes everything. i don't think there's any hope. no hope for labour underjeremy corbyn? i don't think so. i have to back him, because i am a labour man. i'm a member of the labour party. and you're telling me it's hopeless? i think it is. he's not strong enough. stoke had been a safe seat for labour butjeremy corbyn turned up keen to celebrate holding out against ukip. it's a message about the economy, aboutjobs, about this country. but, above all, it was a message that hope triumphs over fear. what about copeland ? he had already been dogged by that defeat all day. 0ur party mentorship is in good heart, it is very large, very strong and we will be out again tomorrow, and every other day, campaigning to get the message across of socialjustice in britain. yet beating ukip in stoke was a big reli

this cumbrian constituency relies on the nuclear industry forjobs, sellafield is already here.as spent his career sounding pretty cool about nuclear power. so it's just about the importance of the hospital. so labour's campaign focus is on the local nhs. we are having a threat of vital services being ta ken away from our hospital, relocated into carlisle, a0 miles away, and it's not safe. but isjeremy corbyn a hindrance to your campaign? he's got a muddled message on nuclear energy, does he speak to communities like this in copeland? look, i'm behind the nuclear industry, no ifs, no buts. close to sellafield is seascale, jeremy corbyn has said he backs the new plant, and it seems he needs to. i don't think he's pro—nuclear, in spite of everything he says, and this is our livelihood. it'll all comes down to the power station at moorside, but both parties are for moorside. does the nuclear issue sort of shape everyone's politics around here? it is, particularly the moorside at the moment, the way it's going on about it, it is bothering people, but it is the life and the soul of t

when the former labour mp and jeremy corbyn critic, jamie reed, resigned to take up a job at the sellafielde seat for more than 80 years. but with a majority ofjust 2,500 over the conservatives, labour's long rule is under threat. jenny kumah's been there to meet the candidates. whitehaven, a coastal town in the constituency of copeland, and it was once the uk's third largest port. now it's the nucleur site at sellafield that is key to the local economy, and looming large on the political map. the conservatives are hoping to overturn decades of labour rule here and they are focusing onjeremy corbyn's past opposition to nuclear. but their candidate's faced criticism for barely mentioning the potential loss of services from the local hospital in her leaflets. i was born at that hospital, my four daughters were born at that hospital. we must keep consultant—led maternity. so what i've actually been doing is working with the minister to identify the problems with recruitment, because that's the real challenge. the labour candidate's message is the tories can't be trusted on the nhs. one of her

sellafield was absolutely, it has been at the heart of that constituency. big job creation.at the labour party had put out, certainly in recent weeks and over the issue of moorside were actually more pro—nuclear and more about the government investing in moorside than the conservatives' own, nonetheless, that history that said thatjeremy corbyn was against nuclear, albeit taken out of context after the fukushima nuclear, albeit taken out of context after the fu kushima results nuclear, albeit taken out of context after the fukushima results in tokyo. has he always been against it? he's never been in favour. that's not entirely true. he's never beenin that's not entirely true. he's never been in favour of nuclear. he's recognised that nuclear is an important part of our energy mix going forward and he's said that on a number of occasions. but nonetheless, that was a very important factor in the by—election. i accept that. i think mark is also right to say that trudy harrison was a very good candidate. watching both labour and conservative candidates, i'm sure the other candid

close to sellafield is seascale.thing he says. this is our livelihood. it will come down to the power station at moorside. but both parties are for it. does the nuclear issue shape everyone's politics? yes, especially the way it is at the moment, it is bothering people, but it is the life and soul of the place. it'sjobs. labour's majority of 2500 could be squeezed by smaller parties, as well. i'm a maths teacher and i've done the numbers. labour have moved to the left and the tories have moved to the right and there is a substantial vote in the middle for people who are looking for a pragmatic mp who talks about the real world. and it is a seat that voted strongly for brexit. we would abolish hs2 as it will not benefit this area at all. we will press to leave the eu because the sooner we do we will have more money for investment locally. this vast constituency covers a swathe of the lake district and there is one party with a very distinctive nuclear message. all the other parties are pro the nuclear plant. we think

she is but copeland is a slightly special case, we shouldn't ignore that, sellafield nuclear plant andtever else we would think about labour, knowing about the nuclear policy is one of the more perplexing things? there are always local factors, but the big messages that labour should be winning the seat is very co mforta bly. winning the seat is very comfortably. from across the water i think, i think david miliband, still in new york. david miliband saying that labour is at the weakest for 50 yea rs. that labour is at the weakest for 50 years. i can't figure out, whether this is efforts by those within labour, in very searingly positions, trying to shake all been out of his position at last. or if it is simply more moaning from the sidelines for those who are not in the battle. actually the funny thing about politics is that both may be true. david miliband is off on his thunderbirds international rescue job in new york, comes back to the uk, andjust in job in new york, comes back to the uk, and just in time to kick labour and say you are the weakest ui and 50 yea rs and say you are t

when the former labour mp and jeremy corbyn critic, jamie reed, resigned to take up a job at the sellafieldtes. whitehaven, a coastal town in the constituency of copeland, and it was once the uk‘s third largest port. now it‘s the nucleur site at sellafield that is key to the local economy, and looming large on the political map. the conservatives are hoping to overturn decades of labour rule here and they are focusing onjeremy corbyn‘s past opposition to nuclear. but their candidate‘s faced criticism for barely mentioning the potential loss of services from the local hospital in her leaflets. i was born at that hospital, my four daughters were born at that hospital. we must keep consultant—led maternity. so what i‘ve actually been doing is working with the minister to identify the problems with recruitment, because that‘s the real challenge. the labour candidate‘s message is the tories can‘t be trusted on the nhs. one of her biggest challenges is convincing the thousands of nuclear workers here that her party‘s leader is on their side. i‘m behind the nuclear industry, no ifs, no buts. and i

copeland depends on sellafield, jeremy corbyn has opposed nuclear power.quite a lot to do with it, because jeremy corbyn said he didn't want it. he did do a u—turn on that, but who knows. the men have done no good when they've been prime ministers, so maybe a woman changes everything. i don't think there's any hope. no hope for labour underjeremy corbyn? i don't think so. i have to back him, because i am a labour man myself. i'm a member of the labour party. but you're telling me it's hopeless? i think it is. he's not strong enough. stoke had been a safe seat for labour, butjeremy corbyn turned up keen to celebrate holding out against ukip. it's a message about the economy, it's a message aboutjobs, it's a message about this country. but, above all, it was a message that hope triumphs over fear. what about copeland, mr corbyn? he'd already been dogged by that defeat all day. our party mentorship is in good heart, it's very large, very strong and we'll be out again tomorrow, and every other day, campaigning to get the message across of socialjustice in brit

territory now, labour folk do not like it and some feel they no reason why, copeland depends on sellafieldosed nuclear power. the nuclear probably had quite a lot to do with it because jeremy corbyn said he did not want it and maybe he did do a u—turn on that, but knows. the men have done no good when they have been prime ministers, so maybe a changes everything. no hope for labourunderjeremy changes everything. no hope for labour under jeremy corbyn? i changes everything. no hope for labour underjeremy corbyn? i don't think so. i have to back him because lama think so. i have to back him because i am a labour man. i think it is hopeless. still can't been a safe seat for labour butjeremy corbyn turned up he to celebrate holding out against ukip. it is a message about the economy, aboutjobs, about this country but above all, it was a message that hope triumphs over fear. what about copeland? he had already been dogged by that defeat all day. our party mentorship is in good heart, it is very large and strong and we will be out again tomorrow and every other day campaigning to get the message

operation around the world and they are the lead developer in a big nuclear project planned up near sellafieldhas resigned after all of that. then rolls—royce, again, is huge and staggering one losses. yes, something like £4 billion, biggest in its history. they have had a torrid few years, this is the fifth profits warning it has put out. most of the losses are related to currency fluctuations, they will sell you an engine but also a 20 year servicing contract so it has to work out how to deal with currency fluctuations and it has bet the wrong way, with coming out of brexit. and it has also been through a hell of a time due to corruption issues that have been going on for decades, and it is facing a big fine here and in the us. when you put all of that together, it is a difficult time for rolls—royce but analysts looking to all of this are looking at the underlying business. they are hopeful that the underlying business is getting back to a reasonable position. they are hopeful that rolls—royce, which is a really important uk business, a massive investment in research and development, create

so, no, iwould not be sellafield and in copeland itself.ality is this is a pretty low ebb further labour party, notjust in copeland, but to hold stoke and to celebrate that when it should have been absolutely a safe win for labour means that there's got to be some very serious questions asked about the election and the preparations for 2020. therefore if you say that labour would best represent the interests of your members, would it not be incumbent upon you if you win the election to be general secretary of the unite union, to try to influence the direction of the labour party? the reality is that unite has played too much influence in the direction of the labour party and that is why we are where we are at the moment. trade unions have a job to do to protect members' jobs and to focus on the real challenges that are faced in terms of the uk economy and brexit, and that is what we should be doing, not messing around in westminster politics. gerald coyne, thank you very much. some breaking news just coming thank you very much. some breakin

sellafield is in the constituency. there are plans for a nuclear power station.ected to that. what would you do about that? i would be working to make sure we secure the investment for the essential project. one of the other big issues is the hospital. plans to transfer services, eternity services, potentially, which may see pregnant woman having to travel 40 miles to carlisle under straitened circumstances. the prime minister said she had no problems with the plan. we can't expected to fight that, can we? the prime minister was misquoted. i was born at that hospital. i oppose the regime. i will be doing everything i can to support the services. isn't your party concentrating on stoke? we have a really good chance here. we have a really good chance here. we have lots of people campaigning with me. i'm looking forward to meeting them tomorrow and friday. me. i'm looking forward to meeting them tomorrow and fridayfi me. i'm looking forward to meeting them tomorrow and friday. b nuclear power station, exit from the european union is causing problems. i'm sure that is

not least because of the 10,000 jobs or so that many people from this area have at sellafield and becausehe road at moorside. we have had some uncertainty about that this week. some doubts about whether it will stick with the construction of that plant. theresa may came and visited a school and spoke to some children and met the headmaster and the local conservative candidate. it is rare for a sitting prime minister to visit the constituency for a by—election that has been vacated by the opposite party. even rarerfor a governing party to gain the seat, that has not happened since the early 1980s. i think what you have here is the constituency that has been held by labour for as long as anybody can remember, since the early mid 1930s was the last time there was anything other than a labour mp for this part of the world. jeremy corbyn desperately trying to hold onto their seat. it becomes a test of his leadership in terms of his electoral appeal. interesting chatting to voters because while there has been discussion about the nuclear industry and jobs which the conservatives say the party w

however she says she is in support ofa however she says she is in support of a new power station in sellafield40 miles away. i spoke tojulian trouton last week. -- gillian. i have said no ifs and no buts, party policy is 100% behind new build and the nuclear industry, it is essential to keep the lights on and it is important forjobs in this area and jeremy has sat down with those from neighbouring constituencies and talked through the issues. jeremy understands it is essential as part of the low carbon energy mix to have nuclear to keep the lights on, there's no other way. and i'm convinced we haven't changed party policy since jeremy has been leader, we voted on it last year and we are 100% behind nuclear. leader, we voted on it last year and we are 10096 behind nuclear. the labour party candidates talking to me last week. just over two weeks to go in the campaign, and they go to the polls on february, the 23rd. the energy regulator, 0fgem, has announced details of a price cap for millions of households which use pre—payment gas or electricity meters. 0fgem says the cap, which starts in april

four example new nuclear capacity, sellafield is the biggest employer, people don't trust to deliver.sure if he could stop the downgrading of hospital services. secondly, could stop the downgrading of hospitalservices. secondly, is only the ship came up in the doorsteps, don't take my word for it, listen to the labour mps, who was saying that the labour mps, who was saying that theissue the labour mps, who was saying that the issue of his leadership came up on prompted. also another problem for it, jeremy corbyn is trying to occu py for it, jeremy corbyn is trying to occupy space as an insurgent, yet voters here were saying that labour has been in charge for 80 years and he is seen as part of the establishment and not the solution and all of these together add up to cirrus problems for the labour party because if there is a national swing which is similar, rather than gain seats, they can lose up to 50 seats. many labour mps are worried about the prospects, but no, that it is next to impossible to dislodgejeremy no, that it is next to impossible to dislodge jeremy corbyn no, that it i

not least because of the 10,000 jobs or so at sellafield and the jobs planned at moorside, a new nucleare involved of the construction of it. that is a big issue in the by—election. the prime minister was here in the village of bootle, visiting a local school for about an hour before she left a short time ago. that visit itself is a sign of the confidence with which the conservatives are approaching the by—election. it is rare for the prime minister to visit a seat vacated by an opposition mp. to win a seat like this hasn't happened since the 1980s. this is a big test forjeremy corbyn's leadership of the labour party because this is been a labour seat since anyone can remember, back in the 1930s. a place that voted leave, traditional labour supporters with jobs dependent on the nuclear industry. this is a test as to whether he can keep hold of this seat. the conservatives are saying thatjeremy corbyn is ambivalent and of equivocal about nuclear industry. labour say that this is about local services which are at risk particularly at the local hospital. ukip have a candidate as well. we ha

uncertainty, we can describe it as. 0ur candidates, trudy, her husband works at sellafield, she was very by—election tonight, quite a spectacular results, in local government. but you are nowhere here, are you? it's not territory for us. you saw from the result that you showed from last time that we are going to come from a fairly low base. very low you could call it. i'm confident we will increase from that and as you say we are doing really well in local elections tonight. from not standing last time, we got 54 ascent of the vote from the tories and in devon and kettering. brilliant. why are you doing so well in local government by—elections, but not seeming to move much in the national polls? because we had such loss of credibility in 2015, so we've got to gradually build that back up again, which we are doing. 33 net gains. i'm notarguing, which we are doing. 33 net gains. i'm not arguing, not which we are doing. 33 net gains. i'm notarguing, notjust which we are doing. 33 net gains. i'm not arguing, notjust good result, very good results. i've got you that, it's the national poll i

they say there is a campaign on the future of the nuclear industry which contain sellafield. point of view, what they will be delighted to see is the success in stoke, holding not that seat and seeing off ukip. there will be questions asked aboutjeremy corbyn's leadership but there will also be questions about paul nuttall‘s. i don't expect either man to throw in the towel but there will be questions from their parties. thank you. royal bank of scotland has reported an annual loss of £7 billion, its ninth consecutive year in the red. sean has the details. we were sitting here last year talking about £2 billion and that was a big figure, this year, 2016, £7 billion. a lot of that is because of one—off costs that the bank talks about but after nine years of losses that argument might start to wear thin. that is to do with litigation charges in the united states, part of the financial problems to deal with mortgage products it sold around the world. here in the uk there is still the remnants of the ppi compensation it is paying out people. businesses in england and wales needed

corbyn‘s leadership a significant issue in a part of the world which is so heavily dependent on the sellafieldnt and 10,000 nuclearjobs and also on plans for another 20,000 jobs at a new plant. that has been a tough issue for labour and has been something of a bare—knuckle fight in this election campaign. the parties have been trading blows over notjust that but also concerns about the downgrading of maternity services and other wards at the west cumberland hospital here at whitehaven and labour have been trying to make that the big issue and they have been less visible here tonight. if we run through that scenario that has been suggested, that labour could hold stoke but possibly lose copeland, what would you imagine is the effect onjeremy corbyn tomorrow? they say that the best form of defence is attack and i am told that if labour loses one of these sets, tomorrow, supporters of jeremy corbyn are going to mount a pretty serious offensive against his internal party critics. i have been told they are preparing for what is described as a day of reckoning. they will ask questions, they will say

sellafield is the biggest employer in this constituency. say that as an excuse and not a reason. the official labour party policy is pro—nuclear. jeremy corbyn said he was in favour of new nuclear so the bigger question forjeremy corbyn is if he is saying that he believes in the nuclear industry, why don't they trust him when he says it? that question of trust will be hanging over the leadership. i don't expect him to throw in the towel because of this result, i simply expect pressure on him to increase. and norman in stoke, defeat for ukip, what does it mean for paul nuttall? a very good question. people will be asking what future for paul nuttall and what future for ukip? this was a seat which should have been an absolute plum seat for ukip. it was probably one of the biggest pro—brexit seats in the country. it was a traditional working—class labour seat, the sort of seat where they said wright, we will go after these seats, this is where we can really capitalise. in the event they have made almost zilch progress. their vote went up 2%, h