the public utilities commission is selling that =--- debt, sellg bonds to pay the recreation and park department. they need to move ahead relatively soon with their bond sale, said they were interested in having us have this approved at this meeting. if it is your pleasure that we come back, we can do that. commissioner buell: if it is two weeks, and we can express the sentiments of the commissioners, i think they make a very good point. i don't think we can object if everything goes well, but we should put provisions in case things don't go well. if you want to just take that sentiment back and if there's anything you want ad, now is your time to express it. >> i would like to see if we can get this thing worked out. >> i am on vacation at the next commission meeting. we would be looking at september, and i am not sure if that is a time frame that works for the staff at the public utilities commission. commissioner buell: i think general manager ginsburg can represent your point of view and we can express sentiment. it is impossible, we should know more about why it is impossible. >>