i interviewed the late david selvan that told me when he and his fellow civil rights activists were considering strategy and tactic for some rain the 1942 bay area council again discrimination somebody would always ask whose checked out this strategy with franklin street. i'd say what do you mean franklin street? he said we always wanted to make sure we had the archbishop on our side. that got me thinking there was a lot i didn't know about. i met dr. jeffrey burns. >> we're going to take a break now and we're going to come back for more with dr. bill issel for what goes on in his book. ,,,,,, >>> welcome back to mosaic. the book is cross and flag. the author is dr. bill issel. there's so much to talk about. you wrote about the sad real life story of slyvestre andraiano. who is he. >> he came to san francisco at the age of 11 following several older brothers, grew up in the city, attended st. marys college. started a law practice in the same building where apg and e had built a new headquarters for his bank of italy. the building is still there. it's a landmark building. from the time he was at