you wouldn't see them trading at sempb, eight, nine times earnings i think they believe we'll maybe hitue. >> i typically agree with mike and carter they're smarter than i am. look at ford over the last three and a half, four years series of lower low, lower highs on a broader market tape that's been effectively straight up in an industry where they were selling cars at record paces my question is, if the stock couldn't go up then, could it now? if you want to be in the space, we mentioned it yesterday, auto nation is the place. >> that's going to be a short-term boost for sure. but you know, one quick thing. texas is the leading place for pick up truck sales. the most profitable truck they sell let's assume you've got a half a million to a million new cars sold it's going translate to about 35, maybe 40,000 f-150s, 350 to $400 million would be the net effect of that versus 7 billion, that's a one time potential boost it's not something to trade off. >> there are moves in principle are enduring, it could be the beginning of something longer lasting and moves that are impetuous u. often