sen. ayotte: thanks for having me. josh: your initial reaction to what we saw? the fact that this happened in paris? sen. ayotte: what happened in paris, our thoughts and prayers are with the victims. barbaric terrorist acts, planned and coordinated. it shows that isis is not we need american leadership. i would like to see our president step up in a more forceful way as to how we are going to defeat isis and lead efforts to do that. along with others -- nato has an opportunity here. i would like to see the president: nato together to -- c all nato together to help the french. isis would like to attack us and has killed americans. isis has also attempted attacks we saw that earlier this year in texas. this is something we need to be focused on to protect our country and our homeland. josh: what is necessary to get five? sen. ayotte: first, you invoke article four, calling nato together. i would like to see the president do that. you can bring all the players of nato to get a to discuss how can we

sen. ayotte: -- mr. rodriguez: i think i was very clear that it is not without risk. we are using multiple intelligence resources. sen. ayotte: do you disagree or if you have any quarrel with the comments? mr. rodriguez: i do not have quarrel with what he said, i think there is context that is critical. sen. ayotte: of all the individuals involved in the terrorist attacks, can either of you answer the question of how many were on our no-fly list? mr. rodriguez: i know that i am not in a position in an open hearing to discuss that information. sen. ayotte: can either of you answer the question of how many were on our terror watch list? mr. rodriguez: again, in an open session, i don't believe i can. sen. ayotte: i would agree with senator mccaskill that there are allies on the visa waiver program that this committee has been focusing on for a while. a number of program -- a number of hearings before this on the beaver -- on the visa waiver program. we do have to understand what gaps were on that b

sen. ayottei want to thank the chairman. just to be clear, following up on senator portman's question about the current program and the refugee program -- director comey, not only did he testify before this committee with what he told senator portman, but also what i think concern many of us was the testimony he gave before the house committee on october 21 of 2015 in which he basically said that the u.s. government may not have the ability to vet thoroughly all the syrian refugees coming into the united states. if they are not in the database, that leaves inadequate information. he said, "we can only query against that which we have collected." if someone has never been a -- never made a ripple in the pond in syria, we can query the database until the cows come home, but we are not going to do. but there will be nothing because we have no record on that person. i guess my question is, i understand the multiple steps you are taking, but isn't one of our big gaps here that we don't have the kind o