president obama as the vice president he'd spent, you know, the 3 decades as head of the senate formulations committee, 12 of them as, as its chair. he was very well known by most european leaders and harris has not been that's, that's a, uh, you know, forthcoming on european views. it certainly of any that would differ with bite, and she does seem to have some differences on the middle east, but president biden did send her as his representative to the munich security conference, a very influential conference where she met a lot of european leaders for the last 3 years and notably this year at munich, she was speaking when we learned of the death of alexi na, volney. of course, one of russia's biggest dissidence and nevada. these widow took the stage of just moments after conway her as herself finished speaking. so i'm certain that will have had a very strong impact on her personally. she already spoke out very forcefully for ukraine and against what russia has done in ukraine. and i think that certainly if she is the nominee, that will give a lot of people in europe. certainly a lot of a security th