a great airof way into the senate house. a great air of excitement.that tonight's bbc election debate, featuring seven party representatives and chaired by my colleague, mishal husein, will be on bbc one and the bbc news channel at 7.30pm. but for now, from cambridge, it's back to george. a breast surgeon has been sentenced to 15 years in prison for carrying out needless and life—changing operations on patients. ian paterson, who's 59, was convicted of 17 counts of wounding with intent and three of unlawful wounding at a trial last month. jurors were told he exaggerated the risk of cancer to persuade his patients to consent to surgery. though the case related to ten patients, it's thought many more could have been affected. our health editor, hugh pym, reports. a rogue surgeon who thought he was untouchable. he had the total trust of vulnerable patients, but he maimed and mutilated them. now ian paterson is behind bars. he caused me to have 23 operations. some of his victims who suffered from the operations he carried out gathered before the sentencin

the senate judiciary committee. the house ways and means. the senate appropriations committee. the house rules committee. the joint conference committee. with d.t to go >> you got it. >> we are looking at the house of representatives, there are distinctions between the house and senate. one of the biggest distinctions, you will be asked on thursday, what is the house rules committee? there is no rules committee like this in the senate. in part because the house is so big, 435 members, it is rowdy. the house rules committee is given that authority to determine how will the debate go on the house floor. the senate, not necessarily peaceful and passive either, but the senate has the filibuster rule. andne can stop that vote abate forever until the -- the rules committee determines those open and close rules. >> let's clarify, we don't write the test, and we don't know if it will be on there, but one of the concepts that citizens should know is the legislative process in the house and senate is quite different. the house is always a much faster process. they limit debate. that is so

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let me guarantee you that the senate republicans are using the house bill as a foundation for the product that they are constructing. the cbo score is important and relevant because the senate product, if it ever emerges from these secret meetings, will simply be a variant of the house bill. why? because in the end they want a bill passed. and they knew, they know, if they truly were to start over, they could not reconcile the two products. so, this cbo score is directly relevant to these secret negotiations because i can guarantee you, the senate republicans are using the house product as a foundation for their negotiations. second, one of the most important things that this cbo score says is that these high-risk pools that the house conceived do not work. the cbo score released hours ago says that if you are an individual with a preexisting condition, in a state that uses the waiver, you will not be able to buy insurance. so, this whole idea that the house had set up a separate way to deal with people with preexisting conditions is now exposed as a fiction by cbo. if you are sick, if yo

won the house and senate and white house on this promise. there is a will to get a yes.et: we're looking with the gannett live shots of the white whererose garden, julia, the president has promised to make an appearance. he is essentially taking a victory lap after the bill was passed in house. as shannon pettypiece said, it is quite unusual for someone to give themselves a half on the back after the bill passes one chamber of congress. this is not yet law. not even halfway there. if this will ultimately feel like a hollow victory given what is yet to come. sahil, i want to ask you a question, because i'm looking through mitch mcconnell's statement and we look at the challenges, whether it is financial, budgetary, procedural, and there is a line in his statement saying that the senate consideration effectively is going to be scheduled following completion of procedural and budgetary scorekeeping reviews. what does this mean and practice for the timing of -- upon which the senate can look at this and pass something? sahil: in fact this means the senate will not vote on th

. >> the senate judiciary committee, the house ways and means committee, the senate appropriations committee, the house rules committee, or the joint conferencee.e.thomer comm? who has the responsibility to schedule a bill for floor debate. >> i will go with the. >> you got it. the house rules committee. >> when you're looking at the house of representatives that there are distinctions between the house and senate. one of the biggest distinctions, and you'll bss on may 4, what is the house rules committee?th there is no rules committee like this in the senate. in part because the house is so big. 435 members, it's robust and rowdy. the house rules committee is given the authority to determine how long will the debate go on. the senate, not necessarilyas peaceful and passive either, but in the senate they have the filibuster rule. anyone can stop that boat and debate forever until the closure vote. the rules committee determines the open and close rule. >> let's clarify. we don't know if rules committee's going to be on there but one of the concepts american government student should know was

house won't know before voting on the bill. i sincerely hope if this bill passes and i pray it does and w that the senate won't mimic the house and try to rush a bill through without hearing more debate or analysis. mr. president regardless of the process trumpcare is just a breathtakingly irresponsiblet piece of legislation that would endanger the health of tens of millions of americans and break the bank for millions more. i don't know what my friends in the house would say to their constituents if they vote for this y bill. what would you say to a 56-year-old in your district who is already struggling to balance the cost of medicine rent and groceries when she has to pay more than five times as much in health care than someone who is 35 and healthy? what would you say to the mothers in your district whose daughter has cancer and is worried if she ever lapses in coverage and insurance company could raise the rates so high on her family she couldn't afford to get health insurance for her daughter and would have to watch her suffer, the agony of parent would go through.t what would you say to thate mother? i don't know how any of

in other words, until it's passed the house and the senate. e bill signing at the white house is the first and the last celebration of the bill at the white house. the republicans have so little confidence that there will ever be a bill signing at the white house that they decided to have their big celebration today. at the end of the first inning. the bill that passed the house today now goes to the senate. the senate is absolutely not going to pass the bill that the house just passed. >> is there any chance for an up or down vote in the senate on the bill as written to get it quickly passed and move quickly past the issue for republicans? >> no. >> zero. >> i love talking. that's not the way it's going to work. >> if some kind of obamacare repeal and replace bill does get through the senate, the bill, the senate bill would then have to go through a third stage, a conference committee made up of members of house and senate would then get together and combine the two house bills. the house bill, the senate bill. combine those two. produce a bra

if it's a different version in the senate, it's got to go back to the house. ould then have to go to the senate again. if this does not actually make it into law, is this great political weapon your party believes it was handed today, is it not an effective weapon if this dies somewhere along that process? >> well, first of all, you have all the members in the house who are now on record for their vote. they own their vote. they own and have to face their constituents and tell them that they will lose their health surance, that their premiums and out of pocket costsill go up. they will have to face those town halls, constituents -- >> what i'm asking, if it doesn't actually happen, if we go to the senate now, you know what, the votes aren't there in the senate and washington moves on, you know how fast these stories can change in politics these days. if it doesn't actually happen, does this vote have the same impact in 2018? >> they own the vote, yes, it will. they own the vote and their intentions with that vote, they will be reminded of the consequences that

was not going to be the bill we were going to vote on in the senate either way. the house passed something that created a reset moment for the senate to tackle repeal and replace. i want to see as a health care system where american families can buy the policies they want the goes with them across job and geographic change and frankly this city hasn't been serious about dealing with health care reform that were going to need. that's what i like to see us do. it >> bret: senate majority leader told reuters "i don't know how we get to 50 votes of the moment, but that's the goal." you are saying it's a full reset and start over from scratch. >> well before this report came out. i've heard the topline numbers but the reality is obamacare exacerbated more problems senate mitigated but it's not sufficient room republicans to just say what's wrong. we need to admit there were structural problems in american health care before obamacare. the biggest driver is job change, and that's going to happen more and more rapidly. we need to create a health care system where families can tak

senator rice. >> thank you. the house of representatives pigd to put lipstick on a and they created a really big mess. i just want to tick off a couple areas that we have been touching on in the finance committee. what is still in tact is more than 800 billion dollars in medicaid cuts. these medicaid cuts are going to hate american communities like a wrecking ball. feltain is going to be throughout the ages. youngsters with special needs are going to be affected because medicaid plays a key role in their care. that is why i saw some of their advocates in tears while they were talking to me at home about medicaid cuts. studentre a high school and you have a brush with cancer because they blow holes in the current protections for americans against discrimination with pre-existing conditions, those high school students butfully have a remission they would be carrying around a scarlet letter to the rest of their lives. is the fact of the matter the pain is seen for the ages. with two out of three older people on medicaid also

senate. you probably have fbi, you have house, you have senate.nvestigations. >> you put out a tweet it's a total hoax and charade, are you not sending that person a message to lay off? >> i'm not doing that. we have to get back to work. i want to find out. i want to get to the bottom. if russia hacked, if russia did anything having to do with our election i wanted to know about it. >> there's always virtually every intelligence agency, yes, that happened. >> i'll tell you this. if russia or anybody else is trying to interfere with our elections, i think it's a horrible thing and i want to get to the bottom of it and i want to make sure it will never ever happen. >> the senate intelligence committee wants information from the treasury department's financial crimes unit about your finances, your business's finance. can you tell us whether you, your family, businesses, surrogates have accepted any investments, any loans from russian corporations? >> i just sent a letter to lindsey graham from one of the most prestigious highly rated law firms in the

house won't know before voting on the bill. i sincerely hope if this bill passes, and i pray that ithe doesn't, the senate will not mimic the house and try to rush a bill through without hearings or debate or analysis. mr. president, regardless of thi process, it is a breathtakingly irresponsible piece of legislation that would endanger americans and break the bank fou i don't know what my friends in the house would say to their 56-y this bill. what would you say to a 56-year-old in your district is already struggling to balance the cost of medicine and went with groceries when she has to pay more than five times as much of healthcare they aske have sol that is 35 and healthy. what would you say to another in your district whose daughter had cancer and is worried that if she ever lapses in coverage and insurance company could raise the rate and she couldn't afford to get health insurance for her daughter and would have to watch her suffer, the agony that aha parent would go through. what do you say to that mother? i don't know how any of my colleagues here and in the senate get this bill and now in the house can explain why they

let them take their time. >> justice jeanine: you talk about the house and senate and fbi. >> the house, senate, fbi. >> justice jeanine: said no independent commission? >> i don't think you need it. >> justice jeanine: but they're playing politics, kc that? it stepping on your success. just the other day the department of justice nullified the eric holder and obama marijuana drug policy. yesterday, 1400 gangbangers arrested in the biggest sweep. >> and you don't read about it the way should. >> justice jeanine: all of this is being subjugated to ridiculous. >> i be honest with you i think people are seen it. i have a very strong base of incredible people. i think they know what's going on. i had dinner with a group last night with great people, great friends. they come in and are angry about what's going on. the anger from our standpoint and was going on. i think the people see. i think they see our successes. putting the supreme court judge on within 100 days, and i don't mean just nominating, having him confirmed. he's going to be great. they said we did note legislative -- we signed

republican senator bob corker says the house measure has zero chance of getting through the senate unscathed. and house democratic leader nancy pelosi calls the bill a lose/lose situation for republicans, warning gop colleagues they will, quote, glow in the dark once constituents find out they voted for a bill which she says will cost more and, quote, guts essential health benefits. the bill was rushed to a vote without a score from the non-partisan congressional budget office which found that the original version would ensure 24 million fewer americans than obamacare over the next decade. our correspondents, specialists and guests all are standing by with full coverage of the day's top stories. house republicans and the white house snatch a victory on healthcare, but democrats warn the jaws of defeat will come back to bite them. let's begin our coverage on capitol hill. cnn congressional correspondent phil mattingly is standing by. phil, a big win to be sure for the republicans, for the president, but there's a very difficult and risky path ahead for republicans. >> yeah, no question at all

, potentially heavier lift than house there is talk in senate of starting from scratch. house secretary tom price urged both sides to come together. >> are for the sake of the american people. >> i would urge every senator to engage in this process, this is important to get right, as i mentioned before, current system is failing folks in the individual and small group market, that what to be changed. reporter: with blush of victory fresh, the president was in a gregarious mood last night, praising australia prime minister healthcare system. >> we have a fail ago i should not say this to my friend from australia, have you better healthcare than we dwe'll have great health care soon. reporter: flattery drew applaud from vermont senator bernie sanders who pointed out that australia has universal health care system that gives republicans hives. >> thank you, mr. president, let us move to a medicare for all system. guarantee healthcare to all people at a fraction of the cost, thank you, mr. president. we'll quote out floor of senate. reporter: sarah huckabee sanders said that

senate. they are saying effectively they want to overall what passed in the house and they don't feel like they need to get it done by a particular deadline. they will not rush the process. the president can only afford to lose two republican senators to get this through the senate. white house officials saying the president will be engaged in this process. the question is, andrea, will we see him on the bully pulpit. will he campaign like barack obama did in 2008. but we did see him take a big hand to get it through the house, but a lot of on tackles and questions about where the bill will go. >> and lamar alexander asked about what the prospects are in the senate. let's take a look. >> in almost every case, if you get insurance on the job, you have insurance for pre-existing condition. under the affordable care act in 2010, there had to be insurance for pre-existing conditions. we want to make sure those americans continue to have access if they have a pre-existing condition. >> that means a big change, kelly o'donnell, that would require really overhauling the house bill, and they said they'

table of the white house this, is all show. mcconnell's the senate roll leader is misuse and early fall is when they will try to rubix cube in the house. president for signature, so little time to try to finish ealthcare, they still say they would love to do it by december 23rd, when congress goes home, how that to see happens. tax reform is even more healthscare andn caitlin owens might fight me on this, the way one person escribed to me, if healthcare is roughly one-sixth of the economy, which is what people healthcare, take tax reform, that is the whole thing, harder. certainly not easier, as some administration officials say. host: mike allen with us until 10:00. you can have him in your inbox website. sign up for mike's top 10, the on the website if you want to check it out. cott up first in maine, independent. scott, you are on with mike allen. caller: hi. want to pick up on something your guest said about the ongress not fearing the president. the problem really goes across border. the president and the congress nd the senate no longer fear th

the more about house passage of the health care replacement bill in the next legislative steps in the senate from today's white house briefing. this is about a half hour. >> perfect timing. good afternoon. as i mentioned yesterday when we spoke, sean is on reserve duty with the native. -- navy. you are stuck with me one more day. he will be back on monday. yesterday with heard from the president, vice president and house republicans about historic first steps to repealing and replacing obamacare. victory for one political party. it is a victory for the american people. inocrats claim they are favor of choice when it comes to health care. obamacare is the opposite of choice. the american health care act returns flexibility and accountability to the state where they can make informed decisions about their own populations. we look forward to the senate taking up the bill in short order so we can move closer to giving the american people the health care system they deserve. we have a few things going on as usual in the white house. this morning's jobs report shows that the economic agenda of ser

house today. still has to go through the the senate. when you talk to officials, you understand that's going to be part of the process. heading into the vote, they weren't making assurances to house republicans, by the way when your bill gets to the senate it's not going to undergo major changes. it will. the question of course becomes when it comes back to the house after it undergoes the changes can they get this to the president's desk. it's a lung, long way to go. that's why you herd democratic strategists celebrating. i think they're popping champagne bottles on the democratic side. >> they see political opportunities. we'll have live coverage once the president goes from the oval office, walks down those stairs into the rose garden and makes his statement. brooke baldwin is with us, brook, you know, a big win for the republicans and the house of representatives today. don't want to take anything away from that. but there's still a long, long way to go before this legislation or anything along the lines of repealing and replacing ob

there is no evidence he co coludeed with russian government and chairman of the house or senate judiciary committee chairman lindsay gram who is no big friend of the white house he put this question the clapper today on the record to sally yates. clapper answered that question doubled down on previous statement, yates would not answer. >> listen to this knowledge. is that still accurate? >> miss yates do you have any evidence, or are you aware of any evidence that would suggest in the 2016 campaign anybody in the trump campaign coludeed with russian government or intelligence services in an improper fashion. >> and senator my answer to that question would require me to reveal classified information. and so i cannot answer that. >> well, i don't get that because he just said he issued the report. he said he doesn't know of a any. >> now, sally yates went on to explain just because she couldn't answer anything doesn't mean you should draw conclusion from this. this is the tweet from president trump challenging senators today to question yates about how classified information wound up in lea

you above for you to sign up in the newsroom but the point was in the upcoming budget the senate house and republicans tried to have the balanced budget within 10 years. but president trump is talking about even more cuts.tensions that is another place where there is tension between the two. >> caller: good morning. i was listening to what you were saying in the beginning with a 98% of the trumpet voters would vote for him again. eight the what you didn't say the eight years president obama went out to reside over the but try he was representingg either side either but i never hear anybody talking about that. >> excuse me. i will interrupt you. that is the point a frequently make that is an interesting parallel with obama is they were both known for reaching across the dial -- ab i l because texas has day week governorship.tisan, remember we thought he was opposed partisan than people thought he was different but for various reasons and they do less of that. >> caller: i really just don't agree with you i don't have a president thatei represented meet the last 80 years. is values were

senate. the open question -- how much of the newly passed house bill, including last-minute changes to pre-existing conditions, how much will end up in the senate version? senators warn, some parts may not fit under budget reconciliation rules that allow them to pass a bill with just 51 votes, not 60. despite the obstacles ahead, president trump declaring his optimism overnight. >> i think we'll get it through. the republicans are very united, like seldom before. i mean, you see that today. the republicans came together all of a sudden, two days ago. it was like magic. they're very, very united. you saw that today and you'll see it again. >> the bill is stacked with many, many changes to the entire health care system, and christine, we will go on and on about what this bill does to change the health care debate, but we will start with sunlen serfaty, who kind of breaks down where this debate goes from here. >> reporter: good morning, dave and christine. well, house republicans have been promising and campaigning on repealing and replacing obamacare for the last seven years, so this certainly is a s

i have also floated senate ideas in the house. r example, some senators are talking ab giving states the tphresability to keep obamacare and auto enroll people in basic health care pharmacy plans. that's a big idea by senators cassidy and kol lynns. in the house, they hate that idea. this will be a heavy lift, no question. overriding factor that mccain pointed out that they want to get this done, that may help. but as you just heard from the house, phil, sara huckabee sanders saying we want healthcare reform right not fast. timing is still important. here's what senator john cornin had to say. quote, we're not under any deadline so we're going to take our time. what does that tell you? >> well, you know, they don't want to be forced to act before they've got a product that they're comfortable with defending. that said, they do have a deadline here because they've got a very full agenda. they want to move on to tax reform. they want to do an infrastructure bill. they've got an appropriations showdown coming at the end of september.

senator mcconnell. he worked very hard to get a good bill. i want to thank the chairman and ranking members of the house-senate appropriations committee, particularly senator leahy from vermont, in our chamber. i want to thank speaker ryan and leader pelosi and all of the staffs for working so hard last week and over the weekend to forge an agreement. and i must tell you, mr. president, and i must tell my colleagues, the negotiations between our two sides were consistently productive and always respectful. throughout the process, both republican and democratic members and staff negotiated in good faith because we all wanted to get something done. i believe this experience bodes well for the 2018 budget and future negotiations between our two parties on appropriations. if we can show the same desire to get things done, the same mutual respect, the same ability to compromise, we can get a darned good budget for the year 2018 without the specter of government shutdown hanging over the country's head. and i would say one final thing. it shows that when our republican colleagues are willing to work with us, we can get things done. all too often, particu

no way, no way. >> the senate will write its own bill. i don't think the house bill necessarily predicts what is in the senate bill. >> the legislation passed in the house eliminates the tax penalty for americans who choose not to buy insurance, replaces the generous substies and rolls back medicaid expansion. it increase it is limit on what insurance can charge older enroll lees and allows insurance to charge customers more if they have a pre-existing condition. among those that would lose the most in this plan, those with pre-existing conditions, the elderly and low income americans. while younger americans, the healthy, middle and upper class and insurance companies stand to benefit. democrats who voted unanimously against the bill taunting republicans after the vote, which they say will be a political liability in 2018. >> some of you have said, well, they'll fix it in the senate. but you have every provision of this bill tattooed on your forehead. you will blow in the dark on this one. >> republican senator lindsey graham stressing the bill should be viewed

the senate is taking it a bit more seriously. the housen this bill before they had the score. they voted -- they voted on a bill that they did not know, they do not want to know. the senate is not taking that attitude. they have created a significant working group and trying to craft something. when you do that, and peter knows this versus better than i do you are faced with very , difficult trade-offs, and it is hard to get something right. taking it more seriously makes for a difficult process. charlie: peter how many hours do , you think you have spent on health care legislation? dr. orszag: i don't want to think about that. too many. charlie: it was a principal concern of your first word -- first four years in the obama administration. dr. orszag: it was the obama administrations first four years. this shows how hard it is -- it is easy to talk at a bumper sticker level. when you get into details, there are unexpected surprises. one of them was you think you are creating a high-risk pool for unhealthy people. you are actually creating

you did get it through the house, and obviously, it moves onto the senate. what mike vacarro said, if they get it through the house. let's say they have to moderate it. . let's say it's more money on the high-ff risk bill. you've got two different versions of the house. you have the house version and the senate version. they have something called the conference committee. they'll try to merge the bills. you have to get through the conference committee and then you have a merged bill. let's say the merged bill has more of the senate version than the house version. now you have a new problem, because guess what you have to do? you have to pass the house all over again. the merged bill, which is different than the bill that just passed the house yesterday, has to go through the house again. if it's a more moderate version of what passed the house yesterday, you have a problem in the republicans. remember the trouble they had getting it through the first time? you have to pass a newbill through the house again, and guess what, you're still not done. you have to g

the white house, the house, the senate, the state legislatures. the democratic party is a collection of ad hoc protesters. they left you a their garbage behind in washington, d.c. when they were protesting. there is no cohesive or coherent message. the message can't be you are terrible, we are not you. judge jeanine: how did the president get the freedom caucus, the tuesday group to come together and what are the chances of this passing in the senate or is the senate going to start all over? >> in a word, leadership. the president showed patience and vigilance. he worked the phones. they held personal meetings. he asked, what will get you to yes? he's always open to other people's ideas and inputs. there are dozens of numbers who don't belong to the freedom caucus or the tuesday group. this an ideologically diverse party. the republicans have members who represent strong democratic districts hillary won. he's a deal maker. and ahas been forging great personal relationships. judge jeanine: how long do you think it will take for the senate to come t

the house just passed obamacare repeal and replace, you are one of the senate working group that willwhite house was talking about pushing out tax reform, infrastructure, question, whether it should or not, realistically, doesn't that fear over the comey firing in the race profile for the rest an investigation, doesn't that interfere with the president being able to push, realistically, his legislative agenda? >> senator lee: there were always distractions in any presidential administration. with respect to obamacare and our efforts to repeal it. unless you are a spinal tap, you can't turn up the volume on your opposition from ten to 11. the democrats are already opposing this effort is much as they possibly can. that part of it has been a change. what we are trying to do as republicans is to bring about real health care reform, reform of the sort that will reintroduce federalism and free-market forces in a way that will bring down the cost of health care to america's middle class who have suffered badly ever since obamacare took effect. >> chris: i understand your point about it's ge

a lot of house members haven't read it. by the time the senates to work on this it is likely we will have a c.b.o. score on the house version but, of course, the senate version will be totally different and that will have to be scored. >> glor: and the number before, on the previous version of the bill that never was brought to a vote was 24 million people losing coverage. and how is that affected under this bill, then? >> this is what's so crazy. we don't know the answer to that question, and they still passed the bill. there are a lot of reasons to think the number could be higher. we're not totally sure. it could be higher than the previous version. it's a big question mark, which is what makes it so much more politically risky to have passed this in the first place. >> glor: turning to foreign news, voters in france go to the polls sunday in the final round of presidential elections. the choice is between far-right politician marine le pen, and a centrist candidate, emmanuel macron. fair look ahead to the votes i'm join from paris by sophie p

acknowledges that it's going to have to compromise with the senate republicans and the house republicans on this bill. the question is whether the president will rally the senate as he was able to rally the house to go after this bill twice in as many months to try to repeal and replace obamacare. while earlier former trump adviser corey lewandowsky spoke on "fox & friends", he expects the president to continue to play active role to make sure this legislation passes. >> he's going to be working the phones, he's going to be meeting with individuals, i'm sure in the u.s. senate. a piece of legislation done. he's required to go out and campaign and get on the stump like he did last weekend to push the bill forward, to make sure we can get repeal and replace done, he's willing to do that and he has a great microphone to bypass the media, fake news. >> meanwhile the president continues to have meetings and take calls in new jersey this weekend where there were a handful of protrump and antitrump protests 4 miles from his golf club and actually we are away from his golf club just

i'm just try to figure out the timing of this and is the white house ok with the senate waiting for the cbo, even though it was just passed through the house. ms. sanders: that is something for the senate to decide if they want to wait for that. it's not holding us back. i know the gospel pretty well. the cbo is not the gospel. they've been wrong before, they can be wrong again. i think we will of the senate -- let the senate make a decision on whether or not they want to wait for that. we feel very confident where the plan is moving forward. thanks so much. see you on monday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national caption >> join us tuesday morning as we head to the heart of appalachia's coal country. we will be live at a cold transfer center. our guests are robert murray, ohio republican congressman bill andson, vivian stockman, mullins.-- nick journal's"ington spotlight on the coal mining industry live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> next, a recent conference on president trump's first 100 days in office. this portion focuses

senate. >> well james comey testified there was an fbi vex. >> i think they're also helping the house and senate you probably have fbi. but you have house. you have senate. they have other investigations. >> but when you. >> the president speaking with nbc lester holt and no probably about it. the fbi is conducting ray investigation in fact as lester holt said director comey testified to it unt oath no short annual of news from the interview. fascinating interview we'll bring you throughout the program tonightment another portion of the conversation and another headline the white house exposing the story line of about his firing of director comey as well there is no other word for it false he also said director comeyen oh three separate occasions did something we've never seen him do namely say the president himself is not under investigation as part of the fbi russia probe. as director mr. comey also -- always refused to talk about yet the president now says he did no less than three times after being asked by the president which some have suggested could be consfrud as obstruction of justice a

senator, what do you think the odds are of a similar version of this house bill passing through the senatesolutely zero chance of that bill ever becoming law. zero chance. dead on arrival. over in the senate. it guts medicaid, takes $830 billion in medicaid funding for grandma who's in a nursing home with alzheimer's or parkinson's, for people who need opioid treatment, for the disabled, for poor children, and takes that money and gives it as a tax break to the wealthiest 1% in our country. dead on arrival in the united states senate. no chance at all. >> okay. if it has no chance at all, and we're seeing things get more and more difficult, especially in some states where you're seeing, you know, aetna drop out, other states where they only have one insurance option, what's going to happen in the near term? if you're saying this future bill already has to be gutted, given where we are right now, what's going to happen? >> well, obamacare is working in most of america. it's working in massachusetts. we have 98% coverage. it's working in state after state. we have to work to try to make obam

and the house and senate have to get behind him. >> the bill, i think that house bill, and president's bill, are very similar. but president's bill will prevail it will be president's bill. and. lou: hallelujah and that is wonderful. >> look that is the way it works here. lou: you better believe it. >> yep. lou: it's taki whileor mitch mcconnell and paul ripe anryan and others to remember. >> there is a job now that president trump has to do, that is with democrats saying these wild things about house bill, they passed, it will cause people to die, and so on. president needs to step up and do something he does well, marketing, market that bill, market the house bill knock down those ridiculous charges. lou: i think that -- i don't think that any of us have a doubt he will market and negotiate an outstanding result. but i also want to compliment president for not rising to the bait, and taking on these dems who talk nonsense, they are -- they have two things, that work for them, politics of personal destruction and big lie. >> they are in the big lie phase. lou: no one is paying attenti

those in the caucus say they will begin writing a bill of their own. >> generally the senate has waited to see what the house thought was doable and found to be doable. but at the end of the day, i think there will be a senate bill and then those two bills at some point will have to come together and we'll get started on that senate bill immediately. >> i think the house freedom caucus made it a lot less bad, one of the nicest things i can think to say. the insurance company gets to socialize their losses and privatize their gains. so, those are things i still don't like about the product but i'm hopeful we can make it better in the senate. >> the senate will write its own bill. that's the way it works, right? they'll pass theirs, we'll pass ours and we'll go to conference. i don't think the house bill necessarily predicts what is in the senate bill. and we have only 52 senators. there has to be consensus. >> we promised the american people, and i promised the people of arizona, we would repeal and replace obamacare. >> do you like the house bill? >> i frankly, haven't paid that much attention. really, there

senate stages uphill climb. bill they will barely get through the house. there's plenty senators said not support the bill as it is now. significant some changes to the legislation before it actually becomes law. changes?ind of expand on where insurers are pulling out. example, i was speaking earlier with dave of virginia. several counties in virginia where there's only one choice of insurers. example.ia is good texas has some counties who insurers. any iowa is losing insurance options. to commit to the marketplace. it's going to have to be they make without complete information. it doesn't look like we'll have decision or president trump signing alternative before they have to make decisions for 2018. >> many moderate republicans still wary of voting for this. that's on going change their minds? president isn't making call. he's signing executive orders and helping church group. >> the president has been active in the last week or so. probably the last month. week or so before the bill was ultimately yanked in late march. active, hent became was hands off

house. what about the senate? e same kind of magic act that he pulled off here with some members of the house? >> here's the challenge. it's plausible that the senate will pass some sort of obamacare repeal and replacement legislation. the challenge isn't so much getting the senate to pass something as the third step, which is getting the house and senate to compromise and agree on one final package. the washington exammer just reported that the senate has said it's not necessarily going to vote on this bill that passed the house and instead republicans there are considering writing their own legislation. so it's certainly possible the president will work with senate republicans to get them to support something. the challenge is getting moderate senate republicans, particularly members like rob portman of ohio, corey gardner of colorado to get on board with legislation that is definitely much more conservative than their constituents might want. that itself is an incredibly difficult negotiation. >> jon: we're luki