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intelligence success. >> reporter: senator chambliss, a member of the senate intelligence committee said the planned attacks a reminder al qaeda remains committed to hurting america. >> the bad guys have to get it right only one time. this time our guys got it right again. >> reporter: the bomb was an improved version of the underwear bomb that failed to detonate over detroit on christmas day 2009. the new bomb had no metal parts making it likely it would have slipped through an airport metal detector. the f.b.i. is still examining the device. word of the bomb plot first surfaced on monday in a report by the associated press. now congressional leaders are calling for an investigation into who leaked the story and why. >> you can't have leaks. leaks can kill people. leaks can deter us getting information. >> reporter: the ap first learned of the plot

. >>> i'm joined now by the heads of senate and house intelligence committees, senator dianne feinstein and senatorogers. they are both just back from afghanistan. thank you for joining us despite what might be some sleep deprivation. i was really struck by the defense chief, leon panetta, instructing some troops that were about to go over to afghanistan and saying, you know, behave yourselves. here is a little of what he had to say. >> i need every one of you, every one of you, and all of your fellow service members to always display the strongest character, the greatest discipline, and the utmost integrity in everything you do. >> i know that eisenhower was not defense chief, but i found this highly unusual, and it made me think that the damage done by the accidental burning of the koran, which was not done as a men behaving badly, but then you had, you know, the urinating on the bodies of dead afghans, of posing with body parts. there's been time after time of just really bad behavior. has this taken a toll, and part of why i ask is we now have another incident in afghanistan where someone dress

senator dianne feinstein. he is a key leader in the senate, chairman of the senate intelligence committee and i began by askingo reach an agreement with iran. >> i think all of us pretty much know what the parameters of an agreement are. and i think we also know the window is closing, that israel is quite adamant that this is an existential threat, that she will not let iran achieve a nuclear warhead and that means all kinds of unpredictable military actions. >> when you say everyone is on the same page about a deal, i was talking to prime minister netanyahu and he said he would allow no enrichment, not even the 3% that you would be using if you were using nuclear power for medical use or things like that. that doesn't really seem to be the same page as the united states, though, right? the united states would accept a little bit more, right? >> i don't think that's the united states' position. i think it's confined enrichment to 5%, limited to the medical isotopes. move anything above 5% out of the country or secure it, have full transparency and 24/7/365 day a year access for the iaea to all these sites. and

senate foreign relations and senate intelligence committee so i want to do a lightning rod, of emphasize quick questions and answers on a number of foreign hot spots. eran you said we should pose a dual tract, imposing sanctions and keeping open the possibility of negotiations while on the other hand possibly preparing for a possible military strike. isn't that exactly what president obama is doing. >> the tactics are one thing and the attitude are another. for example i'm concerned that the president and his administration has put too much faith in the negotiation route in particular if success in the negotiations are deemed a willingness to continue to negotiate. it is not an indefinite period of time. generally the tract that i have outlined is one that people have built a consensus around. when i raised that point on iran i didn't raise it as a criticism of the administration. i raised it as an observation of the right way to handle it. i think we need to do a better job of beginning to prepare our allies in the world for the reality at the end of the day if negotiations and sanctions don't work there will be a need for military action. what we cannot toll rate is a nuke iran. >> chris: you say we should continue foreign aid as you put it as a cost-effective way to advance our values and our interests. romney is on the record assaying we should cut foreign aid by 1 h hundred million dollars. is he wrong? >> well, i think, first of all, he is always looking for efficiencies in the budget and rightfully so. it is never a good time to spend more money than we have and it is never a good time to waste money. on the other hand i do think we have made improvements to the challenge grants and other methodologies to ensure the money is getting to those recipients. i would make the forceful case that foreign aid gives us leverage. i think he made an observation from a budgetary perspective but at the end of the day i think we can make a compelling arguement there are places around the world where without foreign aid the u.s. would not have the lev religion or influence we would want to have this those regions. >> chris: a policy spokesman who is openly bai resigned from the romney camp this week after he was not allowed to talk to reporters because of on from social conservatives.sitin what does that say about tolerance in the romney campaign and in the republican party? >> well, first of all, mr. gray nell who i don't know nor the circumstances of his hiring but my understanding is that he has left the campaign on his own volition and it was his decision to leave the campaign. >> chris: he set up a conference call and then said by the campaign we don't want you to talk because there was so much concern from social conservatives about the fact they had hired -- he had been the u.s. am bass tor ambassadoe united nations for years. >> i don't know the circumstances behind the hiring and i think the campaign has responded to that and i'm sure they would respond to you if you asked them on it. what i have seen in the public statements is that governor romney said that they hire people based on merit and their qualifications and ability to do the job and leaving the campaign was a decision he made. he was nod asked to do that. >> chris: on the bigger issue, senator and this is one of the points that president obama made in his speech yesterday. he said the republicans and romney will take this country back when it comes to gay rights and birth control and when it comes to abortion. >> once again, there has been differences of opinion between the parties on these issues. on the issue of life, yes, the republican party by and large although there is diversity in the republican party on the life issue. there are such a thing as prochoice republicans. there are very few prolife democrats that are tolerated within the mainstream of the democratic party so that is important to point out. on that issue there is more tolerance in the republican party. i'm proud of the fact that the republican party is the prolife party on the issue of life. on the other issues that you have raised i don't know anything about a contraception debate. i keep hearing about that and i do know about a religion liberties debate about whether the federal government should have

senator dianne feinstein, senator of the committee on intelligence. then the 2012 campaign is in full swing. we will talk politics with republican senator john thune. senators feinstein and thune only on "fox news sunday." also the president changes his mind on gay marriage and now it is a campaign issue. we will ask our sunday panel how it will play out in november with voters. all right now on "fox news sunday." >> shannon: hello again and happy mother's day from fox news in washington. the u.s. in a joint covert operation with saudi arabia managed to block a potential terrorist attack. here to go over what we learned and discuss a dum a couple of domestic issues as well is senator dianne feinstein. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> it good morning, shannon. >> shannon: al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula is head quartered. word of two drone strikes there that took out two. what is the situation with al-qaeda in the region? >> i think the sense is -- well, i know the sense is that aqap as it is called is the number one threat to our country and their efforts to get at the bombmaker of this nonmetallic bomb which may well be able to for through m

that remains in afghanistan recently and factors earlier this month senator dianne feinstein who heads the senate intelligence committee so that the taliban is stronger than before the thirty thousand troop surge and that sort of jibes with the assessment of the recent nato report from january is that the taliban strength remains intact so when you look at sort of the hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign assistance that has been poured into afghanistan you know the afghan institutions still remain significantly weak they don't have the ability to stand on their own and that was the entire premise of the mission was trying to sort of teach afghans how to fish and seriously right now we see a long term sort of indefinite presence not nexus to. and i very much contradicting what the president himself has said about our moment of what every general has said a romance of against the taliban what the president said when he was in afghanistan . on the first anniversary of the osama bin laden death but i think everyone already knows that you can't really talk about the war in afghanistan in terms of a success right if yo

senator feinstein, chairman of the select committee on intelligence. then, the 2012 campaign is in full swing. well talk milks with republican senator john thune who some believe is a top conned materials in the vice presidential sweepstakes. >> president changes his mind on gay marriage and now it is a campaign issue and we ask the panel how it plays out. all right now, on fox news sunday. hello, happy mother's day from fox news in washington. this week the united states did a joint convert operation with saudi saudi arabia and blocked a terrorist attack. and now to discuss a couple of important domestic issues is the chairman of the select committee on intelligence, senator feinstein. senator, welcome behalf to fox news. let's start with the latest information from yemen where al qaeda is basically headquartered. there is word of two drone strikes that took out two. what is your sense over what the situation is with al qaeda in that region? >>guest: the sense, i know the sense is, aqa perform is the number one threat to our country and there are efforts to get at bombmaker of this nonmetallic bomb which could be able to go through the airport security. and the fact it was recovered and recovered intact is an impressive win for the c.i.a. but it means that we have to devote all of our resources right now to try to end this because it can become very, very complicated. >> information that leaked out when the story broke on monday, there are concerns in both houses, both sides of the aisle. your counterpart in the house of representatives said he was upset this could disrupt ongoing operations and it could be a cream over the information that leaked out. he

senate foreign affairs committee and the senate intelligence committee so i want a lightning round, quick questions and quick answers. first, iran, you say we should pursue a duel track with sanctions and keeping open the possibility of negotiations while on the other end preparing for a possible military strike. is that exactly what president obama is doing? >>guest: well, the tactics are one thing. the attitude toward the tactics are another. for example, i am concerned the president and his administration have put too much faith in the negotiation route particularly if success of the negotiations are deemed willingness to continue to negotiate. it is not an indefinite period of time. generally the track i outlined is one people have built a consensus around. i raise that point on iran, i didn't raise it as a criticism, i raised it as an observation of the right way to handle it. we need to do a better job of preparing our allies for the reality at the end of the day if negotiations and sanctions do not work there will be a need more military actions. we cannot tolerate the world would agree, i think, a nuclear iran. >>chris: you say we should continue foreign aid as you put it "as a cost effective way to advance our values and interests." romney said we should cut foreign aid by $100 million. is he wrong? >>guest: well, first of all he is looking for efficiency in the budget. it is never a if time to spend more money than we have and never a good time to waste money. but i do think we have made improvements through the challenge grants to ensure the money is getting to those recipients. so, i make the case to governor romney foreign aid0 leverage and allows us to spread our vision through the world. he made an observation from a budgetary perspective but at the end of the day i think we can make a very come peopling argument there are places around the world where without foreign aid the united states would not have the leverage or influence we would want to have. >>chris: a respected foreign policy spokesman who is openly gay resigned from the romney camp this week after he was not allowed to talk to reporters because of opposition from social conservatives. what does that say about tolerance both in the romney campaign and not republican party? >>guest: well, i do not know him or the circumstances of the hiring but my understanding he left the campaign on his own volition. his decision to leave. >>chris: but there is after he set up a conference call and he was told "we don't want you to talk," because there was so were concern from social conservatives about the fact they hired a gay and he was the spokesman for the u.s. mission, the united states arch to the united nations for years. >>guest: i don't him. i don't know the circumstances and the campaign has responded to that and i am sure they would respond to you if you asked. what i can tell you and what i have seen not public statements, government romney says they hire people based on merit andc1[ qualifications and ability to do the job. i have seen them state that leading the campaign was a decision he made. he was not asked. >>chris: but senator, a point that obama made yesterday, president obama made in the speech yesterday, he says the republicans and romney will take this country back when it comes to gay rights and birth control and when it comes to abortion. >>guest: well, there are differences of opinion between the parties on the issues. for example on the issue of life, yes, the republican party by and large, although there is diversity on the life issua

intelligence community aren't too happy about that. we'll have senator dianne feinstein with us, the chair of the senate select intelligence committee. r about when she knew, what she knew, whether there was still work to be done in the operation that might have been compromised because the investigation got out. >> of course, president obama's endorsement of same sex marriage made news this week. it was the new cycle for the week and you'll be talking about that on your sunday panel. >> we will. in addition to the panel who i am quite sure will have a spirited debate, we will touch on that with senator feinstein because she offered up a measure that repeal this and there are suggestions it could get to the senate floor. we'll also talk about that with senator john spoon who is considered to be on the short list for the veep list. a lot of people think as a conservative evangelical christians he would bring something to the tickets who are a little half hearted about romney. >> fox news sunday airs right here at 9 a.m. sunday morning on fox 5. we'll look for you then. >>> coming up on fox 5 a video game company is suing beyonce. find

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senate intelligence committee. tonight, he talks with wjz about what he witnessed. >> reporter: on the heels of president obama's surprise trip to afghanistan, a delegation of high-ranking members of the house and senategence committees, including maryland congressman dutch ruppersberger, touched ground in afghanistan. traveling to the pakistan border regions, making sure u.s. intelligence personnel have the resources they need, after u.s. troops pull out in 2014. >> we spent 10 years there. we've lost american lives. we want to plaque sure that when -- make sure that when we leave, we are protected from another 9/11 style attack. >> reporter: this comes after the killing of guard robert marchanti. and since that attack, the afghan army is being trained to identify threats within their ranks. >> it's extremely important that the afghan military are trained well and stand up and stop them from the things that they're doing, the attacks, the training of terrorists, the making of bombs. >> congressman ruppersberger also met with members of the maryland national guard. they have had four killed in action. >>> two arrests are made in connection with the kidnapping and murder of a tennessee mother and her t

. >> as a member of the senate relations committee and the select committee on intelligence, senator issue is american leadership in the world. >> only america can put together the kind of international coalitions it takes to confront everything from human trafficking to the issues involving iran and syria. >> there are a lot of people out there that would like to see you on the ticket. some have concerns about your past. one is this credit card when you're speaker of the florida house, you charged personal expenses on this party issued credit card. what happened with that? >> at the end of every month, we would get those statements. we would see what was on there that was party related and the party would pay that. if it wasn't party related, i would pay that directly to american express. now, obviously in hindsight, it looks bad, right? why are you using the party credit card at all? some of these expenses were because the travel agent had the number, you know, the credit card number and they billed that to that card instead of the other card. sometimes it was a mistake. literally

we've just seen an important statement by the two heads of the intelligence committee, senate and house, senatortein and congressman rodgers, very well respected people on both sides of the aisle and they say the taliban is gaining. so i think what this is is an admission internally that we're on our way out, we've got to negotiate a solution with the taliban, the one thing that's unacceptable in this negotiated solution is if al-qaeda comes back. jenna: what does that mean? for our national security? >> i think it means that ten years later, we're still talking about al-qaeda. we should have been in december of 2001, when we had al-qaeda on the run, when they were down to less than 100 al-qaeda, we should have pursued them from afghanistan, into pakistan, and killed them. what we didn't do is what -- what we did do is turned that mission over to the pakistanis and for ten years they've been in the finding bin laden business, the finding al-qaeda business. we paid them handsomely for that. what have they done? they've kept al-qaeda alive because they know the minute that al-qaeda is gone, bin la

senator diane feinstein on. what are you talking about. >> senator feinstein she chairs the senate select intelligence committee and we're going to talk aboutlk to her about the assassination of peace negotiator and key player in the talks in afghanistan and she's been there and talk to her about those things and also, she is sponsoring a repeal of the defense of marriage act. advocate for gay marriage and those topics, with john thune, he was early to endorse romney before the first primary vote is cast and rumored to have a short lister, so we'll ask him about that and more. >> the answer is, what is fox news sunday and the host today. shannon bream. >> we'll be watching. >> happy mother's day, ali. >> alisyn: thanks, shannon. . >> dave: looking forward to the jeopardy appearance. >> clayton: and would have blitzer, remember wolf? he couldn't answer any questions. >> dave: and chris is wicked smart. wicked smart. still ahead, a group of land owners fighting for the right to drill on their own land. we'll hear about their battle with new york state next. >> alisyn: plus, skip the cash gift. and the gadgets. and clayton morris says so. a pe

senator marco rubio making a trip to guantanamo bay cuba, yesterday. it was the first visit since his parents fled a decade ago. he is a member of the senate intelligence committeehe spoke about it last night. listen here. >>> we had a very productive meeting in guantanamo bay, cuba where they had a significant naval presence and historic one. it was great meeting the men and women of our armed forces. os obtaining policies and the way they conduct the tribuntrib. pleased with the effort of our armed services and the work they do important work they do and work that goes on there at the facility. it was touching to be able to fly over the island to know that's the land you saw your parents and grandparents born. a free cuba one where the people of cuba can choose their hereineds and future. >> man no folks hoping with that. with this trip a lot of chatter whether rubio's trip was politically motivated or not. he took questions. is it meant to bolster his foreign policy experience as a possible spot as mitt romney's running mate. >>> allen west had harsh words for president obama. the florida congressman was on with greta van susteren paren. calling the white hou

intelligence last summer about the lone wolf attacks. >> as why it took so long to track the cyber threat for the senate committee there was no response from f.b.i. or homeland security. senateits version of the cyber security bill next month. bret? >> bret: thank you. the panel breaks down the latest attack and responses over romney's business career. first, a mixed bag of news when it comes to iran. details after the short break. the 3.6-liter v6 engine of the jeep grand cherokee has a best-in-class driving range of more than 550 miles per tank. so you can catch morning tee time in monterey and the afternoon meeting in los angeles, all without running out of gas. just make sure you don't run out of gas. ♪ in the latino communityr retirement. the word that we use is jubilation. as you're getting older, you should be able to do the things that you love. >> bret: the international atomic energy agency worked out a deal with iran to open up the country nuclear facilities to u.n. inspectors. this as the u.s. senate approved a new set of sanctions leaving every option on the table. the senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler has details. >> on the eve of n

the chairman and ranking member of the house and senate intelligence committees, that's four, and the majority and minority leadership of the house and senate. that's another four. that's the gang of eight. and there were briefings over a period of time, i think about two years in the situation room and in the vice president's office, cheney, at the white house of this group. top secret briefings, could not talk to anyone. i said when finally a book was published or maybe it was a series of articles in "the new york times" and the president, partially declassified the existence of this program. i was finally free to talk to people. i was -- around christmastime, i believe it was around 2005, could have been 2004. i was free to talk to people and that was the first moment i learned that this program was being operated outside of the foreign intelligence surveillance act. i spoke out immediately and consistently and ultimately congress amended the foreign intelligence act and made certain any activities of this nature were fully covered by the law and subject to oversight by congress but it was a very difficult chapter and a surprise to me th

senate committee when i was in the senate. dealt with the most sensitive secret programs of the government. helped to oversee agencies like the cia. many of us have experience on the committee having some intelligence committee. they used to work for the cia. or out of public office that dealt with national security issues. so the president has sensitive going on. he wants input anded advice. always the advice of the abroad issues. obviously the world is going to change as we wind down the wars of iraq and afghanistan. and the role of intelligence committees is going to change. it's kind of like when the cold war ended. and you had half the intelligence community maybe 90% focused on the soviet union focus on the target president world became more complex. you needed to know different things. it wasn't just one country. it had to change. we try to gived a violence on big, broad questions like that. sometimes on small specific secret programs. are they doing what they should. i think it gives the president a good sounding boor board. >> gifnt political climate today are you pessimistic or optimistic about the future. in reference to the historical conference. you mentioned earlier and i heard you sa

senator yield for a comment? senator, cint thank you enough for those comments. i'm very worried about this leak. i was leading the london news clips, and as, you know, i chair the senate intelligence committee, and i believe i can speak for the leadership of both committees in sais we have not been briefed -- saying we have not been briefed. this has been very closely held because of the seriousness of the operation. and to see what is now in the papers, which essentially endanger the asset, put him in fear of his life, tell our allies we cannot be trusted to carry out a mission without leaking that mission, and also thereby alerting al qaeda in the arabian peninsula they need to increase their security to prevent penetration. it is i think the most serious leak, certainly in the time i've been president -- excuse me, i've been chairman of the committee. and i really thank you for raising it and for your solidarity in that belief. mr. kyl: thank you and i compliment the chairman of the committee for very wise remarks and i know the ranking member, senator chambliss is in full accord. this is a very bipartisan effort and i hope we can succeed in getting to the bottom it. mr. president, i wan

senator diane feinstein with us exclusively and she's connected to many of the hot topics this week. she is the chair of the senate select intelligence committee. we're going to talk to her about the bomb plot that was uncovered and also the concerns that a lot of folks have about how much information has leaked out. we'll find out when she knew, what she knew and if she's concerned about the leaks. we'll also talk about the issue of gay marriage because she has sponsored a bill in the senaterough a committee vote. senator reid said it may get to a full vote. we'll talk to her about those. we have senator john thune with us, one of the top republicans in the senate. we'll talk to him about those topics as well and about the speculation that he, who endorsed mitt romney very early on in the primary season, is a short lister on the vp potential picks list. >> steve: the best one hour on sunday morning television, shannon, thank you very much. we'll be watching for you. >> thanks v a great weekend. happy mother's day, gretchen. >> gretchen: thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> steve: 25 minutes now before the top of the hour. in the news, the federal government going after that guy, joe arpaio. the obama administration now suing him. his department accused of discriminating against hispanic jail inmates and intentionally targeting hispanic drivers during traffic stops. he is fighting back, saying the lawsuit is all about election year politics as the white house tries to co

senator. >> welcome, director mueller. in a follow-up on senator klobuchar's last point on our cybervulnerability. let me preface our remarks by saying that from my viewpoint on the intelligence committee, for my viewpoint on this committee, from going out and seeing folks in action at the end jci ts and actions put together, i am very impressed with the ability and the dedication of the forces who have deployed against our cyberthreat. .. >> private sector observers, like the latest mcafee report, use again the same language. here we are, assuming that to be true on the losing end of the biggest transfer on the history of humankind, and i want to ask your continued support for my offices office's efforts to try to get a real understanding of what our fbi and doj resources are dedicated to this problem. you have to really drill below the numbers. because i can ask doj, and they consider is a cyberperson dedicated in every u.s. attorney's office. and i know perfectly well from having been an attorney, that person may be doing no cybercases at all. they may be the designated with a conference call on mute while they are doing other work. just that number doesn't really help. we are trying to work through who is really on to the cyberproblem and how, within the fbi, are there people who are designated in your local offices who are in the same mode when there is a conference call, the do they take it when their workload is elsewhere? other folks whose role is forensic cleanup, when you raid a place and they grab computers and do a download -- that's important, but it's not really the cyberbattle. one of the things that i am concerned about is that when you look at the metrics of cases that are produced, again, i see some great cases, but i don't see a ton of them. in terms of beating down the bobcats that attack our systems through service attacks, you guys helped, i think take down a record flood and other.net. that made a measurable dent in the amount of spam that is out there on the internet. but there is still a ton of that stuff going on, and it is great cases but not a lot of cases. if you look at international property theft through cyber, hacking into an american company's computer, accessing their data and their formulas and secrets, xl trading that out and then using math to compete them, we have made zero cases. in all of the cybercases and intellectual property cases, we have seen the link. a guy who is downloading and putting the disc into his pocket -- my impression from everything is that they are standing in front of a fire pose, trying to put out a bunch of work. when i hear from private sector people is that they would love to have more fbi and more federal support. nine times out of 10, they don't even know they have been hacked. they get told when your folks or homeland security comes knocking on their doors. they say you might want to look at this file. once they do know, having more supported from you guys, i think, i think you're doing a great job with the resources you have. but i know that we are at a stage where this has become a big problem, as a national security problem, to our electric grid, our financial systems, our communications networks, if someone decides to take those downs, and an industrial espionage problem, nothing privacy problems. there is someone in this room right now his credit card and social security information is on some estonian gangsters website for sale. there is so much of it for sale right now. there are all of these issues. i feel that we need, in the same way that we need to move from having a couple of aircraft in the united states army years ago, we have to have an air force on this one. we need to be thinking about really what the next step is. how should we structure this? is not just enough to add incrementally. we need to go game on, on this. i would like your thoughts on that point. i know that omb is a hazard for folks when they are being asked to argue about your allocated budget, but i would like to ask you to participate, willingly and helpfully come and continue to, because we have had good support so far -- or trying to get something into the cyberbill that will put a structured into analyzing what our law enforcement posture should look like, how should it be resource for the future. we have bea, we have atf, we have secret service or it may be we should be thinking of building something for cyber-- as we look out. >> what are your thoughts? >> i am struck by saying that i share your concern about putting the country and the federal bureau of investigation in a posture to address this. it will take a substantial realization of the bureau to address this. in terms of personnel, and one of the things that we too often do is retake pockets of the cyberissue, and we forget about them. within the bureau, there are a number of initiatives we have taken over a period of time but have fallen under the cyberumbra left. i think the [inaudible] is one of the most important. also, every one of the 56 field offices are doing cyberwork. there are intrusions. and there are cases of the images. as we grow, intrusions are more important. you hate to say that, but they are more important because they need a different scale and different effort. my discussions with our people is that we really have to address cyber-- we have to do it in the same way we address counterterrorism. that means beefing up our cybersquads and making them taskforces. so we should know where the cyberintrusion is going to occur, and you need to be able to do the forensics so you can start the attribution, much less the criminal case. consequently, it has to be distributed across the country, and the expertise has to be distributed across the country. it takes more of a headquarters role, because inevitably, in most of these, whether it be a botnet or what have you, it may have been started in romania or morocco or what have you -- consequently, the old way of allocating responsibility to the office of the first u.s. attorney -- they have and get the subpoena of the grand jury, they don't work in this environment. what we are working within the bureau is putting together a distributed. >> i am going to interject. in those cases, you don't have a criminal case. you have a civil effort to shut it off, which was done brilliantly, but it is hard to keep that up within the fbi's structure when there is no criminal case contemplated. [talking over each other] >> we look at it as national security could is is one of the problems that you have with cyber. at the time of the cyberintrusion, you do not know whether it is a state actor, you don't know whether it is organized crime or organized crime working for the a state actor, or an individual or group of individuals, who are not organized but distributing the anonymous type of attacks. or lastly, the 18-year-old who is particularly adept and wants to make his or her mark by intercepting. you cannot immediately put it into a cubbyhole, national security or this particular crime. consequently, the 18 counterparts and the distributed network, in my mind, gives us the ability to identify that intrusion, work on that intrusion with dhs protecting the infrastructure, gathering the information and hopefully helping on the identifying of the attribution for that particular attack. i do believe that something like the regional computer forensics laboratories, yes, they do exploitation, but at the same expertise that you need to do the attribution, in terms of a cyberattack. you have 16 of them. i would like to add more of those. there are other aspects of the organization -- the fbi organization that have to be integrated. you can have a cyberattack which are undertaken by terrorists, state actors or espionage, and you need in both of those, expertise as to who would undertake and the intel and intelligence agencies. and you have to merge cyberexpertise among the expertise in that area. that is what we are organizing to do. the bottom line, there is a long ways to go for all of us. but it is a sharing of intelligence and the capability to take that intelligence, and work with not only our persons in the united states, with nsa, cia and others outside, that will enable us to be successful in this arena. >> i really thank you for the excellent work that the bureau is doing on this. and i look forward to working hard to making sure that you have the resources that you need. i will close by observing that these cases are immensely complicated and difficult. if you look at the complicating factors that make a case difficult, it has virtually all of them. but the worst comforting factor of international domain, and having to work through gaps and treaties and having to work in foreign countries -- the complicating factor, as you pointed out, integration with our intelligence community and having to deal with the security and classified nature of some of that and protecting resources and methods, the cases themselves are challenging and difficult. it's difficult as any case can be. the forensics are very important. trying to figure out how this stuff actually works and be able to testify about it, clearly, and then a lot of work putting these things together because some of these things are big operations. when you combine all of that, each case could really be a huge vacuum for effort, in order to succeed. i think that is an important appreciation that i wanted to put into the record as we go. this is not by like some cases, where you can knock them off one after another. these are the kind of cases that could swamp a small u.s. attorney's office, and present immense challenges. >> that is where we pushed resources. we have to be far more flexible, we have to have virtual teams addressing these cases. we can do burritos, in these cases are competent at. one thing that often is lost is there is one body behind a computer. what you want to do, identify those individuals and arrest them and incarcerate them so there is deterrence you can talk about the networks and tracking the signature tobacco country, but then there has to be action and that is where our role comes in. >> i appreciate it. i think the last person standing in the searing. i will call it to the conclusion. i think you for coming up, as use so often done to face the committee. you have always done is professionally, and your organization is first-rate. we are delighted to have interpreted the record you here. the record will remain open for one additional week. in case there is anything that anyone wants to submit. the hearing is closed. >> thank you. 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senator? welcome, director mueller. let me follow up on senator klobuchar's last point. on our cybervulnerability. let me preface are remarks by saying that from my viewpoint on the intelligence committeemy viewpoint on this committee and going out and senior folks in action, from looking at some of the cases that have been put together, i am very impressed with the ability and dedication of the forces you have deployed against cyberthreats. what i am concerned about is not our ability it is adequacy. it is the quantity, not quality i think you run some very high-quality folks, and i appreciate that. i went out on a limb about two years ago and said that i thought that the theft of american intellectual property across our cybernetworks was the biggest transport content transfer of wealth in the history of the human species to invest in piracy and we were on the losing end and were not taking enough action to defend against it. since then, general alexander has said virtually the same thing. he is the head of cybercommand and the head of nsa. private sector observers, like the latest mcafee report have again used almost the same language. so here we are, assuming that to be true on the

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