even someone as senecal cynical as president putin does not want a nuclear iran. i think this is the time for negotiations. i believe, reflecting on the history of a post-9/11 area, we should exhaust diplomacy. if it fails, then we have the military option to rely on. that is the proper sequence. >> i tried to get in a couple questions. one of my concerns was break -- was raised by ambassador burns. the idea that this agreement would result in the saudi's in the gulf state just moving forward. there is a line getting to the nuclear program. there's no doubt they are going to go do that. if they are going to get that anyways, wouldn't they have done that anyways? my point is, it is not the agreement that is going to make them go forward with their own nuclear program, in the absence of an agreement, they have gone forward anyway. i think it is kind of a moot point. i understand what you said. do any of the other panelists have a view? >> the gulf states have not moved forward. >> no. if this becomes a reality, what is your consensus? >> mr. keating, right now they