please welcome shaka senghor.aka. >> how is it going. >> trevor: how are you doing, man. >> great, great. >> trevor: thanks for coming to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> trevor: you have such a fascinating story. correct me if i'm wrong. it book was wonderful, are you from detroit. you were in jail for 19 years. you basically got arrested when you were 19. but you were in the life of crime from the age of 14. >> yes, 14 kreers old. >> trevor: and then you got shot. >> multiple times when way 17 years old. >> trevor: so you got i gun. >> yup. >> trevor: and then one day you turned that gun on somebody else. >> yeah, 16 months later. i fired four fatal shots was sentenced to 17 to 40 years in ri son. served 19, self then solitary confinement. >> trevor: that is such a crazy story. what is crazy is not just the fact that you were in, it is what you have done since you came out. i moan this is such a beautiful and fascinating story. but let's go back into that. the number one question pem ask, i even ask it when

my guest tonight, prison reform advocate and author of writing my wrongs, shaka senghor is joining us) but to start today's show, let's, uh, let's talk about the vinyl sofa stuffed with racist refrigerator poetry. i'm talking about donald trump. (laughter) with his ever-increasing lead in the republican primaries, a lot of people have started asking the question: how dangerous would a donald trump presidency be? newsman: the economist magazine's intelligence unit has now listed a trump presidency among its top ten threats to the world. newsman: in its updated global risk assessment, a trump presidency would be as dangerous to the world economy as the possibility of islamic terrorists destabilizing global growth. goddamn! (laughter) trump is as dangerous as terrorism? what a slap in the face to isis. -(laughter) -50,000 fighters and one man is the same level of world threat. yeah, like maybe one day we'll be flying and say, "i don't want to alarm anybody, "but i think i saw a trump on the plane. (laughter) how do i know? because he was wearing that thing on his head." -(laughter) -it's

. >> reporter: shaka senghor will always bear the name "convicted felon." >> at the age of 18, i shot and killed a man. >> reporter: he didn't start out that way. you were an honor roll student. what happened? >> once i started going through things at home, i stopped taking interest in school. it's one of those things that now when i look back especially working with young people, i think about how we sometimes fail as adults to pay attention to what's happening to children. i literally went from honor roll student to like barely showing up in class. >> you say no one ever stopped to say what's wrong. >> yeah. >> why are your grades falling off. not one person? >> not one person. originally, it felt kind of like the ideal middle-class family. a lot of siblings, fun times, but also a lot of hurtful and painful times dealing with the abuse of any mother, dealing with the dissolution of my parents' marriage. >> reporter: he served 19 years, seven in solitary confinement. you knowingly chose the street life. no one pushed you there. nothing forced you there. why did you choose it? >> i wa