most egregious revelations have come out this would really outraged lawmakers we heard from jim sensenbrenner wrote the paychecks. this is not any idea how to. so she's basically doing yes a huge favor by taking his most controversial program and legal assistance and that's correct and is another program that's being legalized in this tale which has not got as much attention as it is a very shy which is the back door search is on international communications that are acquired under the section seventeen of the fights and many. this is a doctor a loophole that ron wyden and warned about the fact the answer what is happening is that the nsa is allowed under the fine sentiments asked to go collapse huge amounts of communications of people were suspected to be foreigners overseas without any individual court because they are foreigners overseas. what ends up happening is the nse scoops up a lot of communications between people overseas and americans and also ends up scooping a lot of purely domestic communications of americans into that style as well these are all communications americans' commun

paying attention to and have saluted i think the usa freedom act was introduced by representative sensenbrenner and senator leahy in the senate. is a very sensible measure it ends ball collection and it closes this back door but it still enables the and i say and our other intelligence agencies to get the information they need to prevent terrorists so it sounds like a pretty good start when it comes to confronting this monster that's been revealed i think that's the way to go those are the co-director of the liberty national security program at the brennan center for justice. today rocky prime minister al maliki met with president obama to discuss u.s. aid to rock this is moloch his first visit to the u.s. in two years but it comes after a wave of recent yet tragically routine violence in iraq more than seven thousand people in that country have been killed this year and according to the database iraq body count an op ed in the new york times this week moloch he wrote then iraq and its affiliates are conducting a terrorist campaign against our people the prime minister is requesting helicopters

paying attention to and have saluki i think the usa freedom act was introduced by representative sensenbrenner and senator leahy in the senate is it is a very sensible measure it ends bulk collection and it ends there closes this back door but it still enables the n.s.a. and our other intelligence agencies to get the information they need to prevent terrorists so it sounds like a pretty good start when it comes to confronting this monster that's been revealed i think that's the way to go of elizabeth co-director of the liberty national security program at the brennan center for justice today's november first the internationally imposed deadline for syria to have all its chemical weapons production and mixing facilities destroyed on thursday the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons announced that syria will indeed need to this deadline with twenty one of twenty three declared chemical weapons sites officially inspected by the joint o.p.c. w in the u.n. mission or tease posts lawyers on the ground in damascus with more. dangerous and dirty that's how the nobel prize committee des

sensenbrenner wisconsin. he was born in chicago and later moved. he graduated from the milwaukee country day school and did graduate work at stanford where he did political silence. then he earned his law degree in 1968. after serving 10 years in the wisconsin state legislate, he ran for the house seat and was elected in november 1978. he has been reelected since then. includeent assignments the committee on science and technology, committee on judiciary. oversightr of the subcommittee. he is member of the subcommittee on intellectual property and the internet and environment and oversight. he is the former chair of the judiciary committee and a long serving committee member. he established a strong record property,intellectual and unconstitutional issues. he also served as chair of the house committee on science where he is an independent leader on science issues as well as oversight. throughout his public life, he has been on the forefront of efforts to reserve the sanctity of life, and eliminate waste in government spending, and protect the inte

representative sensenbrenner who wrote the original picture actually wrote section two hundred fifteen his quotable phrase was you don't need the ocean to catch a fish and that's exactly what the government is doing is taking a provision that was written for a targeted and narrow use to collect business records and it is engaged in the largest surveillance program in the history of any democracy so that's what we are going to the court we're is several claims here we rightly say that the program doesn't comply with the statute itself it goes far beyond what the statute authorizes in terms of this kind of bulk collection risk was never contemplated by congress and certainly was not authorized by the statute we also risk constitutional claims as you mentioned. the call detail records being collected by the government are reveal incredibly sensitive details about our personal lives these are incredibly intimate things that you can put together when you aggregate not even you know the government's been doing it for seven years but even a month's worth of this kind of information can tell y

but before we turn to the panel, we're truly honored to have with us representative jim sensenbrenner's been one of the most vocal and important voices in the united states house of representatives with regard to the foreign intelligence surveillance act and current proposals for its reform. congressman sensenbrenner represents the fifth congressional district of wisconsin which includes milwaukee, dodge and all of washington and jefferson counties. he was born in chicago and later moved to wisconsin with his family. he graduated from the pill waukee country day school and did his undergraduate work at stanford where he majored in political science. he then earned his law degree at the university of wisconsin, madison, 1968. after serving ten years in the wisconsin state legislature, he ran for a united states house seat and was elected november, 1978. and he's been reelected since then. his current committee assignments include the service on the committee on science and technology, the committee on -- and the committee on the judiciary. he's chair of the crime, terrorism, homeland s

by the way sensenbrenner also wrote the patriot agent. at the same time the tech giants are developing technology to protect user information.cgent. at the same time the tech giants are developing technology to protect user information.ent. at the same time the tech giants are developing technology to protect user information.nt. at the same time the tech giants are developing technology to protect user information.t. at the same time the tech giants are developing technology to protect user information. senator rand paul even speculates the nsa could potentially tap president obama's phone. and in russia, nsa leaker edward snowden appears to have a new job working for a website. his attorney says snowden starts later this month, but did not name the company. some have speculated it could be russia's answer to facebook which publicly offered him a job earlier this year. >>> mark halperin and john heilemann once again set to shake up the political word. new details on double down are now leaking to the press. remember the rumors that the o

but the usa freedom act by senator leahy and congressman jim sensenbrenner who wrote the patriot act has some people pleasantly surprised by how strong it is what do you make of it and what are the chances that it is the one that's chose out of these two paths. well i think that is certainly a step in the right direction to bar this kind of bulk collection of innocent americans communications their communications records is imperative to restoring our core privacy rights and in fact our core rights against the government abuse of this power potential abuse by this administration or future administration i'm pleasantly surprised to see that congressman sensenbrenner on that bill he was an indefatigable fan and cheerleader for the bush administration when president bush was office we couldn't get a single amendment through the house judiciary committee when he was at the helm but i'm glad to see he seen the light and recognizes how how dangerous these powers are and how far they go how far they transcend what most americans believe reasonably to be their fundamental point right even th

jim sensenbrenner turned up a real story about whether there's any hope in saveing -- jim sensenbrenner may be the best hope that there is for any republican leadership on reinstating the bones of the voting rights act, after the supreme court tore it down this summer. also, jim sensenbrenner's great grandfather invented kotex. behind all these members of congress, behind more of them that you would think, that's kind of the story of congress, democratic, republican, senate and house, members of congress you like, ones you don't like, they're all heirs to some fortune or married to the heir to some fortune. while the average american is not getting richer, the average member of congress really is getting richer, and that's happening faster and faster all the time right now. and whether or not it is related, right now the average american's view of the average member of congress is the worst it has ever been in the history of asking people that question. the gallup organization for those released with polling data on how congress is doing in terms or handling it's job, the number of amer

speakers including jim sensenbrenner review the patriot act. this is two and a half hours.e conversations] >> good morning. it's my pleasure to welcome you to georgetown university law center. today marks the second discussion of the law schools three-part series on the past, present and future of surveillance and foreign intelligence gathering in the united states. in october we can being former members of key staffers from the church committee hearings and looked at the origins of the it surveillance intelligence act. today we are focusing on current bills currently before congress that would reform the foreign intelligence surveillance court and alterations for the foreign intelligence surveillance act as well as cases currently working their way through the courts. our purpose and meaning the program today's move the conversation forward and to think about what framework and principles should guide us as we look to the future. we are now as all of us recognize attic critical juncture. technology is rapidly evolving and it comes as tremendous benefits that makes us more

and this bipartisan plan, the leahy-sensenbrenner plan, includes many of the proposals that senator wyden and i have long called for, and we are proud to support this effort. mr. president, let me be clear. this issue, it's not going away. it's not going to go away because more and more americans and more and more of our colleagues are coming to understand the true overreach of our nation's surveillance programs and the effect on americans' privacy. this issue's not going to go away because we're not going to stop shining a light on a potential for future abuse that comes with our government secret interpretation of its authorities under the foreign intelligence surveillance act. and i truly believe, mr. president, i really do that ultimately our efforts, the efforts of senator wyden, chairman leahy, representative sensenbrenner, senator paul, senator blumenthal, the presiding officer and myself and a growing number of others will lead to a majority of this congress acting in commonsense ways to protect the privacy of americans. now, mr. president, we're here today on the floor in the mid

there been any any response from the petitions or the petitions were delivered to congress and sensenbrenner the authors of the patriot act originally introduced a bill that would basically curtail some of the worst abuses under a piece of legislation and granted they were working on that bill well before the petitions went to congress but i do think that the introduction of the usa freedom . very direct response to the mobilization of the petition the lobby day that was part of it and the sustained clamor that's been coming from all sides of the political spectrum from every region of the country and what do you think about dianne feinstein three sixty degree turn of first you know here she is in the main the lobby is behind by and then she goes out and says no now she's coming out kind of credit card if i all these illegal practices her bill is a red herring you know it's not at all a solution to any of the abuses it really is a way to entrench them while painting of the reforms on the ice expected to some extent from senator feinstein because she has been so lax in her capacity as chair o

has there been any any response from the petitions that petitions were delivered to congress and sensenbrenner the authors of the patriot act originally introduced a bill that would basically curtail some of the worst abuses under the piece of legislation and granted they were working on that bill well before the petitions went to congress but i do think of the introduction of the usa freedom as. very direct response to the mobilization of the petition the lobby day that was part of it and the sustained clamor that's been coming from all sides of the political spectrum from every region of the country and what do you think about dianne feinstein three sixty degree turn here she's been the main lobby is behind by and then she goes on and says no and now she's coming out kind of trying to cardiff i all these illegal practices her bill is a red herring you know it's not at all a solution to any of the abuses it really is a way to entrench them while painting a veneer of reforms on ice expected to some extent from senator feinstein because she has been so lax in her capacity as chair of the senate

whatehi-sensenbrenner bill in the bulk -- the leahy- sensenbrenner bill would end the bulk collectionfind signs codifies that w hile placing some researches on it. host: why target the specific activity? leahy and sensenbrenner and critics say the program goes too far and it does violate americans privacy. they say it is not actually in counterterrorism and it is just collecting the phone data of millions and millions of americans. feinstein disagrees. she says that this is a key counterterrorism program and it is legal as well. that is the other disagreement over the legality of it. one is in the judiciary committee, leahy's bill, the other in the intelligence committee. ecb divide their. the -- youd divide see the divide there. bill,t of leahy's conservative and libertarian- leaning conservatives like rand paul, find sign -- feinstein's bill is supported by chambliss, vice chair of the committee, more moderate democrats. we had a vote in june, i believe it was, over an amendment from congressman just in a mosh that would've also ended the phone data. it was every". we've only seen m

think feinstein's trying to ward it off -- patrick leahy, there's sensenbrenner in the house, there's -- >> especially pushing legislation to stop the nsa from data collection. to let the aclu basically argue why certain things shouldn't be done, and to really handcuff our intelligence services the way that happened in the 1970s which indirectly led up to our failures that led to 9/11. >> how big a danger is that, mary? >> well, it's -- i think it's possible that, you know, you're going to get the momentum but it's incredibly naive. i mean, you know, as if -- if the u.s. stops doing this, then it won't be happening anymore. if the u.s. stops doing it, then the only ones doing it will be the chinese, the russians. you know, the brazilians. the cubans. and probably the germans and the french. the idea that by banning the u.s. from doing it, you can somehow stop the spying world is crazy. >> all right, mary o'grady, thank you. >>> when we come back, our election day preview from a pair of high-profile governors races to some controversial ballot measures. we'll tell you what's at stake i

about privacy and national security this would be through the legislation he's sponsoring with jim sensenbrenner what's the likelihood we'll see this happening considering the increasing scrutiny of n.s.a. policies i think there's no question that legislation is going to get attention but if you look at it one of the big things about it is i think there's sixteen senators who have cosigned that all of them are democrats and there are sixty in the house and i think what you're going to see is not bipartisan legislation moving forward to going to see a very bipartisan or just pro democrat and again it's going to run into all those roadblocks that we've seen with every house everything else that's going on there on the hill right now which is the dems fighting the r.'s and it's going to continue and i think ultimately it will raise awareness but then end up dying out sure appreciate you coming and breaking that down for us mancini founder of s.s.p. bloom thanks thanks. and the german news magazine der spiegel has published an open letter it says was written by former government contractor edward sn

national security this that would be true the legislation he's sponsoring with the rapids and james sensenbrenner what's the likelihood will see this happening considering the increasing scrutiny of enacting policies i think we know it is no question that legislation is going to get attention but if you look at it. one of the big things but it is i think they're sixteen. i senators who have co signed it. all of them are democrats and their sixteen the house and i think legitimacy is not bipartisan legislation moving coordinate see a very common on bipartisan or just call a democrat and again it's been a running did all those robots that we've seen with every house everything else that's going on and on the hill right now which is the dems fighting the artisan and in it's going to continue and i i think ultimately it will raise awareness but then end up dying a shared love to see you coming and breaking that down for us mancini down the road access scheme will thinks things through. and the german news magazine der spiegel has published an open letter in sens was written by former government contr

sensenbrenner is recognized for his questions. >> thank you mr. chairman. ms. mccarthy on june 27, 2012 he sent a letter to me relative to the issue of ethanol and the waiver on e. 15 and i asked the question does the epa remain confident that e. 15 lowe damage car engines from vehicles of models 2001 and later. the letter you signed responded the epa remains confident for the e. 15 partial waiver decision. this question can be answered simply yes or no. do you remain confident on the technical basis for the e15 decision? >> i do. here are what others are saying. ford doesn't support the production of e-15 or legacy fuel and ford has not approved this fueling or any damage is not covered by the warranty. mercedes-benz annie at the mall land above e. 10 e-15 will harm harm -- leading to significant problems. vehicle engines were not designed or built to accommodate the higher concentrations of ethanol. there appears to be a potential for engine failure. the aaa automotive engineering experts have reviewed the available research and believe additional assessment

jim sensenbrenner, one of the once regarding the patriot act -- >> let's take a break and talk aboutsary of his death coming up in a couple of weeks. i want to get your take. everybody personifies you with that, with the brilliant movie you made. and let's talk about the project you're involved with, martin luther king jr., which i think we can reveal a few secrets about. >> we're back in five minutes? i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart. 1111 >>> you calling the president a murderer? >> if i'm so far from the truth, why is the fbi bugging our offices, why are our witnesses being murdered? >> i don't -- maybe there is some rogue element in the government or something. >> a conspiracy to cover it up? >> o

we do not believe it is logical for many of the same reasons that congressman sensenbrenner made. as to the question of why did you go to the supreme court first -- we look very carefully at every other court and concluded this was the only basis tot we had a bring this matter to. did a to thank laura, who great job gathering up legal scholars and former members of the committee that act -- that argued that we were right. we were joined by experts in national security law, randy .arnett think, i know there are other challenges being pursued thehe court, but i think u.s. supreme court will need to answer the question as to this inferior court's application of law and precedents. time int a strange american legal history where are coming out of the fisa court, interpreting statutes, constitutional law, almost as final judgments because no one else would know about them. ado not think you can sustain judicial system in that way. i think the court will hear this. turn to you.will there are 16 cases live. one has been submitted to the foreign intelligence surveillance court. friday.ing

in congress as we just heard, senator leahy and congressman sensenbrenner have introduced the u.s.a. freedom act that there are actually two dozen bills currently before congress that are pending with regard to the foreign intelligence surveillance act. at the same time in the courts, there are now 16 lawsuits that are working their way through the court. yesterday, the supreme court denied the epic petition for rid of mandamus. the same day the government argued in a case before judge leon in the district that the federal district court could not review the actions of the foreign intelligence surveillance court. on friday at this week the aclu will be arguing clapper in the southern district of new york and also this week there's been the first suit lodged with the foreign intelligence surveillance act. i become half of the center for constitutional rights. so there's a lot going on in all three branches of government, it is perhaps no better than one could assume that no one that we have today and i am very much looking forward to the discussion. i'd like to just briefly introduce

senate judiciary chairman pat leahy co-authored freedom act with republican congressman jim sensenbrennerthanks so much for being with me this afternoon, senator. >> glad to be with you. >> you were one of the leading authors of the patriot act in 2011 now you're proposing to ban nsa from collecting bulk data among other things. can you pinpoint the moment you changed your mind about this government surveillance programs and decided these programs needed to be curbed? >> i never really changed my mind. i thought in the patriot act i pushed to make it a lot tighter than it was. i joined with conservative leader of the house dick armey to put sunset provisions in. that's one of the reasons we now have this debate because it forced the congress to review it periodically. but we've reached a point where this seemed to be if we could do it, we should do it. no matter what it does to your privacy, no matter what it does to your sense as an person if you're left alone. the nsa says we can collect every one of your phone calls and virtually everything else, we have to do it in case someday you ne

freedom act with congressman sensenbrenner. we wanted to end this dragnet collection. we wanted to place appropriate safeguards on a wide range of government surveillance authorities. we also must close the detention facility at guantanamo bay. in the coming days, the senate's going to take up and debate the national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2014. now, that act contains many provisions that are central to our national security and actually many that help our allies around the world. but among the most important are provisions that would help make it possible to close the facility at guantanamo. as long as guantanamo remains open, it doesn't protect us, it serves as a recruiting tool for terrorists. it needlessllessly siphons away critical national security dollars. but it discredits america's historic role as a global leader that defends human rights and the rule of law. as an american senator, i feel this is not the face of america i want the world to see. currently there's 164 individuals who remain detained at guantanamo. some of them have been ther

sensenbrenner questioned you on the question of the standards for fuel efficiency you said you were not here to speak to manufacturers warranties and liability is. >> i can't speak to the statements about that. in essence if it affects the entire car industry it doesn't matter. >> very much so it matters and we have appropriate testing for that reason. i just -- that isn't by -- >> on the grant recipients, he said you had procedures to ensure that they are fair-mind fair-minded. let me submit to you as a business owner if we are going to put business people o businee science advisory panel can't you apply the same procedures to make sure that they are fair-minded? >> we provide the same procedure to anybody. >> that he would be okay with having more business and industry experts on a panel as long as they are fair-minded? >> i would draw this to balance that is to make sure they are doing the job correctly. >> very quickly, i have a plant, carbon capture and sequestration in district 14. $400 million is the cost of the project. some 60% was supplied to the american reinvestment recovery

sensenbrenner, is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. ms. mccarthy, on june 27, 2012, you sent a letter to me relative to the issues of ethanol and the waiver on the 15. i asked a question does the epa remain confident that it will not damage car engines from vehicles of model years 2001 and later. the letter you signed responded, the epa remains confident in the technical basis for the east 15 partial waiver decision. this question can be answered simply yes or no. you remain confident in the technical basis for the e-15 decision? >> i do. >> is what others are saying. forbes said, for doesn't support the introduction into the market place for the legacy fuel. ford has not approved in the owner's manual is considered in its fueling and any damage resulting from this who fueling is not covered by the wealthy. mercedes-benz, any ethanol plant a bug he can including a 15 can be 15 will harm in mission control systems in mercedes-benz engines creating significant problems. honda, vehicle engines were not designed or built to accommodate higher

in the house representative jim sensenbrenner, former chairman of the judiciary committee. republican. myself democrat. and so we have democrats and republicans on this issue. there are a lot of things that we are not necessarily agreeing upon right now in congress. there is a tremendous amount of disagreement. enough that actually shut down the government. but on this issue, there appear to be the amergens of tremmed -- amergens of tremendous agreement, that makes all of us optimistic that something significant and even more significant can be done. so i want to highlight some of the organizations and groups who have been actively engaged in seriously involved, groups like the leadership conference for civil and human rights. groups like the justice center from the council of state governments. groups who have worked to demonstrate that people can be helped. what is it that individuals need actually when they are released from jail or prison? well, they certainly need more than $20 and a bus ticket. many of them have no place at all to go. but if they can find somebody wai