sequa is appealed >> yes, this is my understanding. >> because if there's a sequa document is challenged additional changes will have to be made. >> i was going to ask the city attorney. >> that's a strange writing. the ordinance the supervisor kim's ordinance provides in section 31.1 that a negative declaration be filed anytime it's issued by the planning department and no longer than the 30 days avenue it's adopted after the city approves the promise >> let's say if the park project in the case of a categorical exception? >> it's anything up so long as there is still a discretionary approval action. so it would be the final discretionary principle of law >> so if you have a park renovation so the two categorical exemption the deadline to appeal would be the final discretionary act? >> so long as it's thirty days. >> that could be within the thirty days? >> it still has to be a discretionary. >> so in san francisco it's still thirty days. >> generally they would still be discretion for the city to act on with sequa. whether you could still implement changes to the project >> so what if

you can't seek any determination for anything until the board resolves the sequa appeal. the legislation would provided when a sequa appeal is is filed there could be no approvals that would lead to a physical changes to the properties. you couldn't pull a that dpoogs change. you could still provided with changes so long as they're not a physical change. this does allow for landmarking to provide while a sequa change is preponderance of the evidence so there's only some overlap. there should be a some things that should be allowed to precede. the project sponsor who ultimately bears the costs of those procedures that the project sponsor can get some physical approvals done instead of just freezing everything in the. if the sequa determinations is over turned by the board then the approvals could be validate but that be the the determination of the project sponsor could decide >> i guess my point is i understand that's a decision of the project sponsor can make but what does that mean for the city agencies where they have to spend money and you have the board of supervisor

supervisor kim's legislation will allow multiple sequa appeals to the board of supervisors on the same project even though through has been no meaningful change. and this will allow more appeals amid construction. in addition the legislation continues our current practice of allowing appeals to occur in the middle of a project. we say this in a appeal on supervisor campos appeal resulted. we saw recently that the delores park was appealed to the planning commission after the commission approves that project and someone wants to appeal it it can wait until plans are pulled and at which the construction will have to grind to a halt and it will cost additional money. i think this is not the right process that will continue under supervisor kim's legislation. it will eliminate over the counter permits by requiring that the planning department go there an analysis of smaller plans and when permits from what departments might be neat and then a compilation will be another delay. this abandons the delegation to other departments. this year hundreds of categorical reductions that are done ever

her legislation and a thank you chair wiener. >> good to be here on a planning code which is our sequa appeal process that has a lot of people involved. despite the sequa process. it's been important to our communities and neighborhoods because it's been a way to minimize the projects in the state of california and also a way to engage in a dialog that keeps us you all accountable. i want to thank supervisor for taking this on its a piece of legislation that so many of our predecessors were not able to come to a consensus on this act. there's - our office decided to put another prospective forward. it's pretty clear we need to pit in a process how we need to appeal negative declarations. we don't have that process yet when the first time sequa was determined to be hardly we need to now put a process in place. the legislation i've introduced with my colleague puts a different prospective forward. i think we all have the goal of putting together a process the developers need a process of the appeals deadline and it will be introduced to the process and we need to have a better notification proc

i side understand the problems of notes but the sequa appeals are not mutually exclusive. this is without creating additional delay this is something very important in a city known for the amount of time to get permits >> thank you very much. >> good afternoon. i'm a born and raised san franciscan. i watched this bait-and-switch act from the america's cup how they tell us one thing and do another. there was very little community input it was shoved down our throat and oh, well, if you say something you'll be a target. so i think that coming from the community i want it's important that we keep this lines of communication open not just for the rich but for the poor and additionally we don't have access to laptops. it's important you guys do the right thing. i know you guys were elected and sworn in and i was there. i say you guys campaign. we are the people. it's not this - you know, those people come here a hired guns they have a job they're doing their job. i'm higher because i know what's right and wrong. we want to make sure we're part of this whole bureaucracy. >> than

we do have a gap in how residents can appeal certain decisions made under sequa. president chiu i am encouraged by your proposed amendments. supervisor wiener's legislation has been thoroughly vetted. we believe this legislation officer a significant improvement over the statue quo. we believe that gid sequa mrojz will be able to proceed in a timely manner. we've heard from commits about parks and other issues impacting our systems. and we look forward to continue to work with constituents as those projects are selected, designed and implemented. supervisor wiener's proposed sequa reform is in the right direction. >> i'm with the sadly commission. i want to ask you wait until supervisor kim's and wiener's legislation are side by side. and from i don't know if two weeks is enough but we definitely need more time. it's not just about developers it's about what our community is going to look like. this is about supervisor kim and against developers h that has nothing to do with that or community groups are brainwashing our constituents we're actually helping the plan

there have been relatively few appeals of sequa appeals in san francisco please don't be swayed by af you stories. over 41 organizations worked with supervisor kim and i think that her legislation is straightforward and would be a good basis to add in parts of your legislation supervisor wiener and part of the changes that supervisor chu has suggested. the sierra club, black human rights council and golden gate alliance, san francisco green party, san francisco agricultural hemorrhage and green action for health and environmental justice. west of twin peaks council. cool valley improvement coalition. council for community housing organizations and take back our parks just some of those 41 organizations that have put in sweat here. we need to have the time to fix this went and i appreciate your giving you the time today and because of the schedule for historic preservation we're going to ask that you put you all of this about a month to three weeks out until kim's legislation can go through both planning and a historic legislation. thank you very much >> let me read a few more names.

that people are not stopping me on the street and in the grocery store to talk about sequa reform and talk about the appeal process. but i will tell you what people do stop me on the street and the grocery store and elsewhere to talk about, is a deep, deep, frustration about how community benefiting projects, parks, libraries, bike improvement, pedestrian safety improvement, affordable housing. a deep frustration about how incredibly long and how expensive it is to get these communities benefiting projects done. it is the people are deeply frustrated. what they do stop me about is why isn't my park getting fixed up so quickly, i voted for a bond, years and years ago and it is still not being improved. why is my library in north beach, why did it take so long for that project to get under way? why don't i have bike safety improvements yet? why did that take so long? it is not about sequa specifically, it is about the process that we have in place to make posive changes in our community and that is what the people are frustrated about and what people stop me and i am sure all of us about in terms of that fru