i thought it was a good time to revisit that speech just because, you know, winthrope in that ser ron, he says, you know, we shall be at the city upon a hill, and to him, it was two-sided. like, yes, it could turn out the way we talk about the image now that, you know, this place eventually, the united states, then just new epg land would be a beacon of hope and light and to the world, but he meant it two ways in that we can fail and everybody could see our failure, we'll be up there and everyone can see our failure, and he defines that failure as the colonists failure to take care of one another, so, i don't know. that's why that one. [laughter] >> sarah, i noticed on your food break, you didn't say anything about poy, and does jim neighbors still have his show? >> i don't know what's happening with jim neighbors in the last 40 years. [laughter] what about poi? poi is still a very prized food amongst the hawaiians. it's just not a staple food. it's -- it's an objective almost religious devotion. it's the, you know, mashed terro root. i personally -- let's say i haven't craved it for