kolawole 0luwadare is the deputy director of serap, organisation that advocates for more transparencyle to identify them. if we have an id system that is robust and covers everyone, why can't payments be done electronically? why do they have to come physically, coming great coming to those staying in remote areas. and these are very poor people, by the way. but even if you don't have advanced technology, it still shouldn't take weeks, months, or years to work out who is alive and who isn't. i'm in 0kele, which is a community in yala, where last october, this list was published with over 300 names of people declared dead, and as a result, their pension payment stopped. 99% of the people there are still alive. the local community leader takes me to meet some of those from the list of dead people. come out. good afternoon, mr cletus? so, your name is mr efika cletus lafin? yeah. and that's your name here? so, your name is on this list, sir, that says you are dead. that's the list. i'm not dead, madam. i can see that. i can see that you're alive. mr cletus laughs. so, this is your nationa